Spin Scoring Question

[Sk8erDad]

My skater is preparing a program for next season and I had a question about spin scoring. She will be competing at a level where the max is a level 2 spin. Her coach said one of her spins qualifies as a level 3. So, how would that be scored?

I assume they would just give higher GOE marks?
Would/could they award enough GOE to essentially give it the value of a level 3?

Thanks in advance!

 

[gkelly]

My skater is preparing a program for next season and I had a question about spin scoring. She will be competing at a level where the max is a level 2 spin. Her coach said one of her spins qualifies as a level 3. So, how would that be scored?

I assume they would just give higher GOE marks?
Would/could they award enough GOE to essentially give it the value of a level 3?

Thanks in advance!

The level would be called as level 2.

The judges will score the quality, not the difficulty.

 

[NanaPat]

One advantage to having the higher level 3 spin is that if something goes wrong and one of the features is missing, the skater would still have a level 2.

It's quite common for that to happen. Just today, in ice dance at the GPF Marjorie Lajoie lost a level in her twizzles because she was late grabbing her blade. You see examples of it all the time with all the leveled elements, including when the skaters (and commentators) aren't sure why an element does not receive the "planned" level.

 

[Sk8erDad]

One advantage to having the higher level 3 spin is that if something goes wrong and one of the features is missing, the skater would still have a level 2.

It's quite common for that to happen. Just today, in ice dance at the GPF Marjorie Lajoie lost a level in her twizzles because she was late grabbing her blade. You see examples of it all the time with all the leveled elements, including when the skaters (and commentators) aren't sure why an element does not receive the "planned" level.

Thank you, I hadn’t even thought of that but it makes perfect sense.

I appreciate the supportive community here as we are still learning the ropes of the sport.

 

[gkelly]

One advantage to having the higher level 3 spin is that if something goes wrong and one of the features is missing, the skater would still have a level 2.

It depends on what the competition level is (and under what federation) and on which feature is missed. In the US lower levels, some types of spins have mandatory features, so if that feature is not achieved then having two other features won't make up for its absence.

 

[Sk8erDad]

It depends on what the competition level is (and under what federation) and on which feature is missed. In the US lower levels, some types of spins have mandatory features, so if that feature is not achieved then having two other features won't make up for its absence.

This will be IJS scoring at either the WB preliminary or pre-juv level.

 

[gkelly]

Can you read this document?

https://www.usfigureskating.org/sites/default/files/media-files/2024-2025%20Domestic%20Calling%20Clarifications%20Pre-Juv%20%26%20Below.pdf

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See the section headed
Spins
Preliminary,
Pre-Juvenile


For spins in one position, five continuous revolutions in camel, sit, layback, or Biellmann position is a mandatory feature to get at least level 1; any other feature can count toward level 2.

For a combination spin (required at Pre-Juvenile), all three basic positions (sit, camel, and upright of some sort including layback) must each be achieved for at least two continuous revolutions to earn at least level 1. Any other feature can count toward level 2.

So at these levels, if the skater doesn't reach the mandatory number of revolutions in position for that type of spin, the spin will be called as Level Base, no matter what other features they may achieve.