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Tatiana Volosozhar & Maxim Trankov
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That sounds like a much more interesting ending, thank you Nessie! I hope they revert back to it, it just sounds like it would be so much more them if you know what I mean? (Even if it is cliché 
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I mean, just compare this Dracula LP (so far ofc) to their Black Swan LP- Von Rothbart taking over Odette/Nina and turning her into the black swan was acted unbelieveably well by the both of them. Max was an absolutely domineering and villainous figure and you could see Tatiana playing the swan losing control more and more as the music became more chaotic. They kept up that dynamic and power balance between the elements and never once did it seem like they were just pair skaters with the odd acting pose added in, it was as though they were truly playing the characters every second!
I hope they build up that spark and power in their acting for competition time again since they want to go down the artistry route, because imo Dracula has the potential to be such a worthy successor to the Black Swan LP! Gah im just so excited to see where they'll take this~
Also, dont they have a new choreographer this year? Hmm...
)I mean, just compare this Dracula LP (so far ofc) to their Black Swan LP- Von Rothbart taking over Odette/Nina and turning her into the black swan was acted unbelieveably well by the both of them. Max was an absolutely domineering and villainous figure and you could see Tatiana playing the swan losing control more and more as the music became more chaotic. They kept up that dynamic and power balance between the elements and never once did it seem like they were just pair skaters with the odd acting pose added in, it was as though they were truly playing the characters every second!
I hope they build up that spark and power in their acting for competition time again since they want to go down the artistry route, because imo Dracula has the potential to be such a worthy successor to the Black Swan LP! Gah im just so excited to see where they'll take this~
Also, dont they have a new choreographer this year? Hmm...
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Hi everyone, I'm a longtime lurker, first time poster.
I like the new programs, especially the LP, but I agree they need polishing. However, I read on FSUniverse that apparently V/T said in an interview that this was only the second time they had done a complete runthrough of the LP, and they were focusing on executing the elements cleanly. They know the choreography needs work. So I'm sure the program will grow a lot.
BTW, for what it's worth, I watched the test skate for Masquerade Waltz recently, and the program didn't look great then. And we all know how amazing that program became 1-2 months later.
I like the new programs, especially the LP, but I agree they need polishing. However, I read on FSUniverse that apparently V/T said in an interview that this was only the second time they had done a complete runthrough of the LP, and they were focusing on executing the elements cleanly. They know the choreography needs work. So I'm sure the program will grow a lot.
BTW, for what it's worth, I watched the test skate for Masquerade Waltz recently, and the program didn't look great then. And we all know how amazing that program became 1-2 months later.
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That sounds like a much more interesting ending, thank you Nessie! I hope they revert back to it, it just sounds like it would be so much more them if you know what I mean? (Even if it is cliché
I mean, just compare this Dracula LP (so far ofc) to their Black Swan LP- Von Rothbart taking over Odette/Nina and turning her into the black swan was acted unbelieveably well by the both of them. Max was an absolutely domineering and villainous figure and you could see Tatiana playing the swan losing control more and more as the music became more chaotic. They kept up that dynamic and power balance between the elements and never once did it seem like they were just pair skaters with the odd acting pose added in, it was as though they were truly playing the characters every second!
I hope they build up that spark and power in their acting for competition time again since they want to go down the artistry route, because imo Dracula has the potential to be such a worthy successor to the Black Swan LP! Gah im just so excited to see where they'll take this~
Also, dont they have a new choreographer this year? Hmm...
I feel better already!
Hi everyone, I'm a longtime lurker, first time poster.
I like the new programs, especially the LP, but I agree they need polishing. However, I read on FSUniverse that apparently V/T said in an interview that this was only the second time they had done a complete runthrough of the LP, and they were focusing on executing the elements cleanly. They know the choreography needs work. So I'm sure the program will grow a lot.
BTW, for what it's worth, I watched the test skate for Masquerade Waltz recently, and the program didn't look great then. And we all know how amazing that program became 1-2 months later.
And now I am full of hope. Whew!
Hi everyone, I'm a longtime lurker, first time poster.
I like the new programs, especially the LP, but I agree they need polishing. However, I read on FSUniverse that apparently V/T said in an interview that this was only the second time they had done a complete runthrough of the LP, and they were focusing on executing the elements cleanly. They know the choreography needs work. So I'm sure the program will grow a lot.
BTW, for what it's worth, I watched the test skate for Masquerade Waltz recently, and the program didn't look great then. And we all know how amazing that program became 1-2 months later.
Welcome, and may I say that you have filled our hearts with hope, Sfey! Thank you
You're totally right about their Masquarade Waltz test skate, it was certainly...different...compared to the polished Masquarade Waltz we all know and love haha
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Welcome, and may I say that you have filled our hearts with hope, Sfey! Thank you
You're totally right about their Masquarade Waltz test skate, it was certainly...different...compared to the polished Masquarade Waltz we all know and love haha
Yes! And just a month or so later at Skate America, where for me that was their best overall competition that whole season!
Welcome, and may I say that you have filled our hearts with hope, Sfey! Thank you
You're totally right about their Masquarade Waltz test skate, it was certainly...different...compared to the polished Masquarade Waltz we all know and love haha
Thanks for the welcome! Here is the article with the interview, by the way: http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20150913/862893680.html
I used Google Translate, so take this with a grain of salt, but the quotes in question:
Maxim: "It was only the second one-piece rolled free program this season. According to statistics, it is, by the way, bad - said Trankov reporters. - First you ride" on adrenaline ", the second turns worse. This, too, turned out worse, but the technique we are practically done. Maybe not everything is super, but made, and we claim to functional training. "
Tatiana: "It was necessary to recall the spirit, going out to perform at a certain start number," - she said.
Maxim: "A program of" raw "we still have, we are mainly engaged in technology, the choreography does not work", - concluded Trankov.
So it sounds like they used the test skates as an opportunity to get used to performing programs in a competition-like setting again, to make sure they could still do the elements cleanly under those conditions. I'm sure the program will have developed a lot by the GP season. Considering it was only the second time they did the program, what they did was actually quite impressive, imo!
I love the potential that the two programs have... they are different and very original, and we don't have to forget that that was a test, not a competition. For example, S/K did doble twist and doble throw jumps... and nobody is complaining about that.... We have to wait until the first competition and even then, it is only the beginning of the season
I love the potential that the two programs have... they are different and very original, and we don't have to forget that that was a test, not a competition. For example, S/K did doble twist and doble throw jumps... and nobody is complaining about that.... We have to wait until the first competition and even then, it is only the beginning of the season
Oh, I noticed that V+T were cautious all right and only did doubles instead of triples and they were wise to exercise restraint. But my concern is that I want them to WIN their upcoming competitions! V+T seem to have lost nothing in the beauty and speed of their skating, but their programs need to be more memorable to show what they can do. Other countries (e.g. China) are going to be nipping at their heels and if the competition has all the elements under control AND excellent, innovative programs, well, V+T might get pushed aside. I don’t want that to happen.
Also, btw, someone mentioned in this thread that she liked Stolbova’s and Klimov’s program. I only saw “You put a Spell on Me” and talk about choreography! There was none at all!…..V+T’s programs, even if they need more work, are about 20 times more interesting. I don’t know what’s up with choreographers lately – new blood is needed! I hope to shut up about this soon!
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IceNetwork has made some pretty interesting predictions about Worlds in Boston, but their predictions about the pairs competition were just way off in my opinion. They said that V&T wouldn't medal at Worlds!! 
I think that this is incredibly false. What do you all think? Will V&T medal? What place? I personally think that they have all capabilities of winning another world title. Here's a link to the article in case any of you are interested in taking a look: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2015/09/15/137019920
I think that this is incredibly false. What do you all think? Will V&T medal? What place? I personally think that they have all capabilities of winning another world title. Here's a link to the article in case any of you are interested in taking a look: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2015/09/15/137019920IceNetwork has made some pretty interesting predictions about Worlds in Boston, but their predictions about the pairs competition were just way off in my opinion. They said that V&T wouldn't medal at Worlds!!
They often make very rediculous predictions (espetially too optimistic for american skaters and too pessimistic for russians), so personally I just don't care about those predictions at all.
V/T did not do any doubles. All their throws and twists were triples.
Ah, by seeing the web site layout I remember now-isn't this the same site that posted false information about Max's comments on D/R skating at one time? If yes, I won't even read this.
I stand corrected.....
Thats right and they were almost clean!
I'm looking forward to seeing if the programs have developed choreographically by Nebelhorn. Maybe that's not enough time (isn't Nebelhorn in like 2 weeks?!?). But their first Grand Prix event is in November, right? That gives them plenty of time to polish the elements and work on the choreography. They may not get gold and silvers for everything like they've done in the past, but that was bound to happen eventually. I'm sure they will still have a successful season.
I read in another interview with them a while back that they don't expect to win everything this season and their primary motivation is getting their form back, making the GP Final and going from there. I'm sure they still want to win, but they seem to have a sensible goals considering all the time they missed.
I'm very much a novice figure skating fan, but I thought Tanya looked like she was in great shape!
I read in another interview with them a while back that they don't expect to win everything this season and their primary motivation is getting their form back, making the GP Final and going from there. I'm sure they still want to win, but they seem to have a sensible goals considering all the time they missed.
I'm very much a novice figure skating fan, but I thought Tanya looked like she was in great shape!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgG-pkQAHDA
Has anyone posted this? It's the LP from a closer angle. I actually think it looks better in this video!
Has anyone posted this? It's the LP from a closer angle. I actually think it looks better in this video!
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welcome to the thread S!
I do like that they're sensible & dont expect to just rest on the laurels.
& frankly speaking thos epredictions by US site can come true Worlds are in Boston after all & Chinese & D/R do have the harder elements
V/T just need to regain their form & stay healthy. & Im sure they will! 1 thing for sure - they haven't lose what they already had -quality & emotion in their skating- & Im very very optimistic
I do like that they're sensible & dont expect to just rest on the laurels.
& frankly speaking thos epredictions by US site can come true Worlds are in Boston after all & Chinese & D/R do have the harder elements
V/T just need to regain their form & stay healthy. & Im sure they will! 1 thing for sure - they haven't lose what they already had -quality & emotion in their skating- & Im very very optimistic
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