It's still unclear if someone got "caught" at all. If it is cannabis there can be a positive drug test without a rule violation. According to WADA rules cannabis is only prohibited during competitions (Source, p.17), but apparently the positive test occured before the Olympics began.Jeez Louise.....Why do they think they won't get caught?
Team medals delayed by legal issue
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But why would they notice that just now? A weird story...
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That would never happen. When a medalist is disqualified, the medals are reallocated — but in this case, the medals haven’t even been formally awarded yet.
Based on Germany and Ukraine being allowed to compete without one of their athletes, I would think the appropriate measure would be to invalidate only the results of the segments of the offending person (and recalculate the points for those segments.
That would obviously put Russia behind the US and Japan in any scenario, but Russia would only drop off the podium if the offender was Valieva.
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My guess is that because the standards are higher for ROC athletes, discussions are taking place. They should be super clean. No shadow of a doubt.But why would they notice that just now? A weird story...
And marijuana use would "fit" to an athlete who is in constant pain and we know who is.
Very unfortunate imo.
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Something is very odd about this situation. Rumors aren't helping, so the IOC should issue a statement providing facts.
But I cannot believe that with the depth of talent in Russia, they would intentionally send an athlete to the Games who was even under a hint of doubt. Whatever happened is a surprise to the federation.
But I cannot believe that with the depth of talent in Russia, they would intentionally send an athlete to the Games who was even under a hint of doubt. Whatever happened is a surprise to the federation.
This is something I find suspicious as well. If it had been published before the team event started RusFed could have replaced the involved skater and saved their medal chances. But now when the competition is done and a skater gets disqualified after the fact they lose the points and the medal and can do nothing about it. The news gets out when it causes maximum damage ...But why would they notice that just now? A weird story...
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Kamila recorded a very cheerful video, joking about about why the award ceremony is being delayed so it's not her that's under investigation.
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I don't know. It raises an interesting question.
Are the results fixed when the medals are awarded? Or are they fixed with the competition is closed and the results "certified" (whatver that means). My guess, and that's only a guess, is that the award ceremony is symbolic, but the competition is formally closed before then.
I think (again I don't know) that would have something to do with whether points are reallocated or whether a team is disqualified and the other participants are moved up a spot.
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All I’m wondering right at this that will the ceremony happen eventually.
Especially considering how deep the Russian team is with the exception of ice dance (sorry, D/S) the other members of the Olympic team that didn't compete in the team event could have competed with the same results. Which makes me wonder when if the Russian Fed was unaware that there was a test prior to the Olympics was flagged
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Cannabis is made legal in Estonia. Lots of shops & cafe sell it in cakes, drinks , ice cream you name it. It was initiated by the police claiming it helps to fight drug related crime. The Euros were in Estonia just a thought could it be somehow connected? But it would be too long ago for test to pick it up, no?
"Substance is not performance enhancing, the Guardian told"
www.theguardian.com
I wonder if that means the substance is purely recreational or if it could be something like pain killers.
FWIW, this story feels more like a rumor than anything firm.
Figure skating medal ceremony cancelled due to positive doping result
The Winter Olympics medal ceremony for the figure skating team event was cancelled due to a Russian skater testing positive for a substance
www.theguardian.com
I wonder if that means the substance is purely recreational or if it could be something like pain killers.
FWIW, this story feels more like a rumor than anything firm.
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Well if that’s the case, then that’s a bit more relieving."Substance is not performance enhancing, the Guardian told"
Figure skating medal ceremony cancelled due to positive doping result
The Winter Olympics medal ceremony for the figure skating team event was cancelled due to a Russian skater testing positive for a substance
I wonder if that means the substance is purely recreational or if it could be something like pain killers.
FWIW, this story feels more like a rumor than anything firm.
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But the officials do not deny it how it could be a rumour?"Substance is not performance enhancing, the Guardian told"
Figure skating medal ceremony cancelled due to positive doping result
The Winter Olympics medal ceremony for the figure skating team event was cancelled due to a Russian skater testing positive for a substance
I wonder if that means the substance is purely recreational or if it could be something like pain killers.
FWIW, this story feels more like a rumor than anything firm.
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But weren't Euros held in a bubble? I can't imagine a Russian figure skater wondering the streets unserpervised, slipping into a cafe, and buying some weed.
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So, what we know (as in, really know, rather than speculate) now is that the offender was a Russian skater, the substance was not doping but another banned substance, and that the test happened prior to the OG? Do I understand it correctly?
I feel sorry for whoever it was, unless they took the risk deliberately. But someone mentioned Jessica C's case earlier, and it makes me think that there are so many ways a banned substance can get in one's body. Cosmetics, pain medication, maybe even being in the same room as someone smoking weed, like someone said above. If so, very sad for the athlete in question, and for the team.
I feel sorry for whoever it was, unless they took the risk deliberately. But someone mentioned Jessica C's case earlier, and it makes me think that there are so many ways a banned substance can get in one's body. Cosmetics, pain medication, maybe even being in the same room as someone smoking weed, like someone said above. If so, very sad for the athlete in question, and for the team.
Brennan indicated the positive drug test of concern by a Russian figure skater was pre-Beijing. WADA tests take a lot longer than daily covid test results! Does that mean from Europeans last month? ROC team members were all individual gold medalists there. I know other athletes are subjected to out of competition drug testing but I don't know if Russia even bothers.
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I don't really trust the Guardian as a news source. I wonder when the IOC will release a statement."Substance is not performance enhancing, the Guardian told"
Figure skating medal ceremony cancelled due to positive doping result
The Winter Olympics medal ceremony for the figure skating team event was cancelled due to a Russian skater testing positive for a substance
I wonder if that means the substance is purely recreational or if it could be something like pain killers.
FWIW, this story feels more like a rumor than anything firm.
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There was no bubble and what I was trying to say that a person could have consumed something without even their knowledge. My friend visited her sister in Tallinn last summer and was shocked by how the Estonians 'embraced' the new freedom. She only just managed to stop her 10 year old to have a 'special' ice cream from his aunties fridge !!!
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