Can we have any chance next year?
Maybe 2016. The ISU Congress only happens in even-numbered years.
Can we have any chance next year?
I hope they remove the anonymous judging, for the sake of figure skating, for all the skaters who have trained so hard, not for the sake of federations playing politik.Maybe 2016. The ISU Congress only happens in even-numbered years.
Ok then. Good luck with that. It seems KSU does whatever ISU wants and not the other way around. I guess your moral compass just follows which ever suits your argument best. Neat.
It is called bitter irony with a whisk of sarcasm... I am not a fan of federation politics/incompetence and ISU dictatorship which imo has disenfranchise the individual athletes a long time ago. I much prefer this sport stop being about US vs Russia vs Canada, Japan vs Korea etc... but more about the individuals but hey I am only a dreamer.
Same here, but nationalism isn't going to go away any time soon, unfortunately. One of the best ways to support the athletes is to ensure the integrity of the judging and removing anonymity would have been a step in the right direction. Sadly, it appears that the federations voting against it have other priorities. :disapp:
Okay, if we HAVE to live with anonymity for a while, then what about ideas that would help us improve the situation?
What about changing the protest procedure/rules? The time limit would be raised to 12 hours, not just within 30 minutes? Or at least 3 hours?
If a result that received any protest from any federation with reasonable comments about TES (GOE, wrong edge...) the identity of the judges must be revealed?
I said I am against anonymous judging. But at this rate I am afraid we will have to live with it at least until 2016. So if we HAVE to live with it, then at least the protest procedure/rules should be changed.But why not just reveal the identity in the first place, why wait for there to be a problem?
As far as I know, isn't there a judges' meeting after each competition? Although it's behind closed doors so they could simply be drinking and laughing their faces off for all we know.
They should have made some broadcast worldwide.I like the idea of a press conference where anyone within a set amount of points of 3rd and their coaches get to grill an ISU representetive who has to defend the ISU's judges marks. If they are going to be anonymous then make someone defend them on behalf of the ISU showing that they are willing to defend who they put on the panels. Oh..the drama. I too am a dreamer
Okay, if we HAVE to live with anonymity for a while, then what about ideas that would help us improve the situation?
What about changing the protest procedure/rules? The time limit would be raised to 12 hours, not just within 30 minutes? Or at least 3 hours?
If a result that received any protest from any federation with reasonable comments about TES (GOE, wrong edge...) the identity of the judges must be revealed?
I like the idea of a press conference where anyone within a set amount of points of 3rd and their coaches get to grill an ISU representetive who has to defend the ISU's judges marks. If they are going to be anonymous then make someone defend them on behalf of the ISU showing that they are willing to defend who they put on the panels. Oh..the drama. I too am a dreamer
What about changing the protest procedure/rules? The time limit would be raised to 12 hours, not just within 30 minutes? Or at least 3 hours?
If a result that received any protest from any federation with reasonable comments about TES (GOE, wrong edge...) the identity of the judges must be revealed?
So they can protest if the downgrade, edge calls and GOE are wrong? Still within 30 minutes is not enough. I hope it will be 3 hours at least. For people to have enough time for reviewing the scores if they want to protest.As for downgrade and edge calls (which will become more significant under the new 2014-15 rules), and perhaps level calls as well, those are the technical panel's responsibility, not the judges'. So anonymity is already not a factor and not proposed to change.
So they can protest if the downgrade, edge calls and GOE are wrong? Still within 30 minutes is not enough. I hope it will be 3 hours at least. For people to have enough time for reviewing the scores if they want to protest.
Lol, in what world would Korea ever "get their turn"? Even if they are the host country, the federation has no power at all. They'll file an appeal because they believe they were cheated out of a OGM and want fairness, but they are willing to keep the current rules because they themselves want to cheat as well? Okay. The same applies to those fans who go on for 100+ posts about fairness, justices and "saving FS" but then turn their heads and say Korea should have the chance to do what Russia (supposedly) did. Obviously all that talking was just a cover, cause all they really wanted was the gold for their "queen".
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."