The one spot available for the Milan Olympics?

[gmyers]

Yes!

Let’s cancel one of the most popular Olympic sports because Russia can’t get their act together and not invade sovereign nations.

That’s absolutely the logical conclusion.

Is this a new rule for ioc membership?!?

 

[Arigato]

Petrosian’s skating has been all over the internet, and with how much buzz there’s been, it’s hard to believe they haven’t seen at least some of it.

I saw some of it. Pretty bad, frankly. Even Eteri and Shcherbakova were frowning after watching that mess. I wasn't impressed. That may have been the silliest looking failure of an axel jump to open a program in skating history. You'd think there was a mouse running across the ice and she hopped over it.

 

[gmyers]

I saw some of it. Pretty bad, frankly. Even Eteri and Shcherbakova were frowning after watching that mess. I wasn't impressed. That may have been the silliest looking failure of an axel jump to open a program in skating history. You'd think there was a mouse running across the ice and she hopped over it.

Oh I think Mao’s waxel in 2008 was hilarious but forgotten immediately and she won!!!! Just like Petrosian did.

Do judges still do that thing of watching practices and pre scoring skaters in their heads?

 

[mrrice]

As a judge, this subject often comes up. Performers are " Seeded " based on their scores for the season. Like Flights in figure skating. This season is unique with the Russian Skaters out so, it will be Interesting.

 

[Mathman]

Do judges still do that thing of watching practices and pre scoring skaters in their heads?

That's a good question, Does anyone here know the answer?

Certainly this was the common back in the 6.0 days. In fact, as I recall, judges (especially at lower level competitions) were expected to attend practices so that they would be prepared as to what to look for when the competition began. Needless to say, this procedure was roundly criticized by fans who objected to "reputation judging," but the protesters didn't get very far with their objections.

 

[Mathman]

As a judge, this subject often comes up. Performers are " Seeded " based on their scores for the season. Like Flights in figure skating. This season is unique with the Russian Skaters out so, it will be Interesting.

Very unique indeed. I assume that the Individual Neutral Athletes from Russia and Belarus will automatically be seeded last for the SP because they do not have scores from recent past ISU competitions. Will their scores from the qualifying tournament count for seeding?

 

[mrrice]

Very unique indeed. I assume that the Individual Neutral Athletes from Russia and Belarus will automatically be seeded last for the SP because they do not have scores from recent past ISU competitions. Will their scores from the qualifying tournament count for seeding?

That's a great question. I love skating so much and I'd hate to see anyone left out. I think politics will Sadly be involved.

 

[Arigato]

Oh I think Mao’s waxel in 2008 was hilarious but forgotten immediately and she won!!!! Just like Petrosian did.

Just because someone "won" doesn't mean they skated well.

 

[Mathman]

We are a tough audience. Adeliia Petrosian is a talented and accomplished skater. Some of her performances are excellent, some a little less so. She deserves higher than 6's in PCS. Her programs feature high tES potential. If she skates at the Milano Olympics in February, she might be at her best in that moment, she might not -- like everyone else.

 

[Tutto]

That's a good question, Does anyone here know the answer?

Certainly this was the common back in the 6.0 days. In fact, as I recall, judges (especially at lower level competitions) were expected to attend practices so that they would be prepared as to what to look for when the competition began. Needless to say, this procedure was roundly criticized by fans who objected to "reputation judging," but the protesters didn't get very far with their objections.

I sadly cannot provide any proof/link to the source but I know I read somewhere that judges do watch practices and warm-ups very closely. I’ll try and think where I could have picked it up. It does make sense to me - the time for decision making is so short literally seconds - judges have to be prepared

 

[Tutto]

I have to say I stopped following Russian skating after the certain event, but now curiosity got better of me and I watched a few of videos of Adelia and Pete Gumennik. It’s interesting we keep talking about Adelia but Petr seems to be forgotten- a mistake! Of course it is only my humble opinion but Adelia did not impress me at all - a typical product of Eteri factory - good technically but devoid of personality. Not so with Petr I genuinely recommend to watch his programs at Russian GPF. I am not saying he is a medal contender in Milan but certainly one to watch for the future!

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[gmyers]

Just because someone "won" doesn't mean they skated well.

Do you agree you can skate well and still have a mistake

 

[Mathman]

I sadly cannot provide any proof/link to the source but I know I read somewhere that judges do watch practices and warm-ups very closely. I’ll try and think where I could have picked it up. It does make sense to me - the time for decision making is so short literally seconds - judges have to be prepared

I think that this made a lot of sense back in the 6.0 days. It helped the judges' preparation to know that a particular skater is planning a triple flip, but has been struggling to get the full rotations -- be sure to pay attention! Once in a while a judge would blink at the wrong moment, and miss the element altogether. With that scoring system we never knew how a particular judge "scored" a particular element.

With the IJS and its reliance on the technical panel, I would think that the burden on the judges has been eased somewhat.

 

[Mathman]

l - a typical product of Eteri factory - good technically but devoid of personality.

Personally, I am not such a harsh critic. Yes, it is not very interesting to watch if the program is all jump, no skating. But IMHO many Eteri skaters did have balance and personality. Julia Lipnitskia. Evgenia Medvedeva, Alina Zagitova, Kamila Valieva (especially as a junior), Anna Shcherbakova, Alyona Kostornia.

Nothing wrong with this one (Daria Usacheva winning the silver medal (to Trusova gold) at 2021 State America:

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( OK, a little rushed. When you skate to Nessun Dorma, just let the music carry you .)

 

[TallyT]

To be fair to the girl, I gather from the odd interview headline I've seen she's been more than aware that the onus of being the sole Russian at Milan and expected by the whole country to sweep the field all on their lonesome will be one woman and that very well could be her. The pressure must already be intense and her coaching team have shown - graphically - that they are crap at helping with pressure and possibly meltdowns.

Even as a non-sympathiser with the Russians I hope I'm wrong, but I do predict the chances of unpleasantness are pretty high.

 

[Arigato]

Of course it is only my humble opinion but Adelia did not impress me at all - a typical product of Eteri factory - good technically but devoid of personality. Not so with Petr I genuinely recommend to watch his programs at Russian GPF. I am not saying he is a medal contender in Milan but certainly one to watch for the future!

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I skipped Dune.

The FS was good but not great. Nice flow out of some jumps. At times, too much two-foot skating between jumps and I need more speed out of him. But I agree, he has potential.

 

[Mathman]

To be fair to the girl, I gather from the odd interview headline I've seen she's been more than aware that the onus of being the sole Russian at Milan and expected by the whole country to sweep the field...

I am reminded of Yuna Kim, carrying the whole country of South Korea on her back. They wouldn't even let her go following the OGM in 2010, but made her soldier on four years later. ( And I greedily say "thank you" to the Korean Federation for Les Miz at 2013 Worlds.)