Top Prospects of Russian ladies

[puremagic]

Daria Shevtsova (2009) - cute kid with potential good artistry skills. Look at her smile here and at this look. Very natural.

Ksenia Hoteyeva (2009) - also very charming girl, and she's pretty fast.

Sad it was absolutely horrible live stream. I noticed this girl - Alina Nefedova (2009), but just like ON PURPOSE, I was able to watch only her jumps. Her legs are Tarakanova/Shcherbakova's type. I really wonder to look at her footwork but it just didn't happen. Sigh.

 

[puremagic]

Protocol from that competition.

Except the rankings of skaters level, I guess we also need to create a statistics of domestic/international scores. But not here anyway. I'm often confused when I see some skaters' results. Just to be able to recognize some anomalies in the scores.

Like top 5-10 highest scores of each category: jun. 3, jun. 2, jun. 1, sport 2, sport 1.

The leaders right now are, of course, well-known, but are needed exactly their results to have a sample, to compare with the others skaters. Also, in addition to the results, we can have statistics of some elements, like stsq levels in sports categories.

 

[Shayuki]

Anna Titova

Born February 1st 2008.

Of course, she's not really comparable to the level Samodelkina, Berestovskaya, Akatieva are at at a similar age. While she has the rotation speed, the jumps don't have a whole lot of height(Though she does attempt triples). And there were plenty of mistakes on the spins and the step sequence as well.

Still, I found this to be very beautiful otherwise. It's, hmm... Almost reminds me of Shcherbakova at the same age. Perhaps not quite as involved but she's incredibly beautiful to look at. And the flexibility.

 

[tars]

Anna Titova

Born February 1st 2008.

Of course, she's not really comparable to the level Samodelkina, Berestovskaya, Akatieva are at at a similar age. While she has the rotation speed, the jumps don't have a whole lot of height(Though she does attempt triples). And there were plenty of mistakes on the spins and the step sequence as well.

Still, I found this to be very beautiful otherwise. It's, hmm... Almost reminds me of Shcherbakova at the same age. Perhaps not quite as involved but she's incredibly beautiful to look at. And the flexibility.

Very nice girl, it's a matter of nationality, isn't it?
I can totally imagine this girl in some lesser fs country, training and developing peacefully towards 18-20yo and getting chances to get some int'l medals. In Russia, she's already far behind with these skating skills and jumps, still I doubt Zagitova was much better at her age.

 

[Shayuki]

Very nice girl, it's a matter of nationality, isn't it?
I can totally imagine this girl in some lesser fs country, training and developing peacefully towards 18-20yo and getting chances to get some int'l medals. In Russia, she's already far behind with these skating skills and jumps, still I doubt Zagitova was much better at her age.

It's a shame, yeah. Well, there's a very outside shot that she'll amount to something one day. Unfortunate realities. In many other countries she would likely be the top prospect, alas...


By the way, does anyone remember Riana Kadyrova? She was in this video a few years ago when she was 2 and a half years old - The video has over 6 million views.

Actually, I noticed her as a participant in a recent competition. And I guess she's slightly better than expected. Jumps are an absolute disaster but I guess she's above average otherwise for her age. The spins looked pretty good. In jun.1 as a 2010 birthday(March 8?) doing:
1A(step out)
2F(weak landing)-2Lo<
2Lz<
2F<<-2Lo<


Not someone I'd have as a top prospect but an interesting blast from the past, so to say.

 

[tars]

I call her "Dynamo from Kazan".

 

[Shayuki]

By the way, I notice you still don't have Alena Zhilina listed in 2010s(February 18 birthday). I definitely think she should be - She's one of the best skaters at actually skating and performing difficult steps for her age group and she likely has the best flexibility I've ever seen for her age. The jumps are the weakness but that would mostly be in just landing them - She has okay jump height for her age. Also, something I consider at least worth a mention is that she's super muscular and has a full six pack with very low body fat, seems to have serious genetics and work ethic already. That can often be what makes the difference. Ah, also off ice 2A fully rotated and very good air time, though doing it on the ice is obviously different. Rotation speed on that 2A is normal for a triple jump also, which is very good for a 7yo(at the time).

A reference video

 

[puremagic]

There are many names which we forgot to add. I guess after JWC 2018 we should completly fill the list. But I'll do it again as a reference, here is a new rule, and I completly disagree with this. So this thread we can use as some notifications about database's updates and new findings. But the full work I suggest to do somewhere else.

Another gorgeous skate by Alena Krivonosova. What a superstar!

Two other nice skates but I can't recognize the skaters, and there are no starting list to identify them:

One
Two

 

[Shayuki]

Another gorgeous skate by Alena Krivonosova. What a superstar!

Her best skate yet! I was really taken back by how good she was here!

 

[siela]

Mariana Mukhina (2009) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEmAiGk3d34

 

[siela]

There is a mistake in the rating - Daria Loboda is listed as born in the first half of 2007 but she was actually born in the second - 25.08.2007.
And I think that she deserves more than 2 stars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbin9-nFusU

 

[puremagic]

Her best skate yet! I was really taken back by how good she was here!

Agree!

Mariana Mukhina (2009) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEmAiGk3d34

Very cute.

There is a mistake in the rating - Daria Loboda is listed as born in the first half of 2007 but she was actually born in the second - 25.08.2007.
And I think that she deserves more than 2 stars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbin9-nFusU

Thank you for correction, I put her there randomly because I couldn't find her date of birth. Fixed. I almost forgot about her, her jumping ability is really nice. She got 137.73 points overall. Impressive. Added the third star.

 

[puremagic]

I wonder why Daria didn't participate here, along with Samodelkina, Akatieva, Berestovsksya, Zinina. [emoji848] She could be in the top 5.

After most important local competitions and JW 2018, we should rewatch all recent girls' skates to correct rating, and add the new supernovas. A lot of work!

 

[siela]

I wonder why Daria didn't participate here, along with Samodelkina, Akatieva, Berestovsksya, Zinina. [emoji848] She could be in the top 5.

After most important local competitions and JW 2018, we should rewatch all recent girls' skates to correct rating, and add the new supernovas. A lot of work!

Daria in not from Moscow, she is from Moscow oblast. She participated in and won her regional qualification: http://fsrussia.ru/results/1718/Zona_ml_cfo/index.htm
So, she qualified to Russian novice nationals.

 

[Shayuki]

Plakhotnaya was only 5th there? Owch, 17th in elements for that girl? What a shame... That qualifier only had 4 spots available too, right? Veronika Zhilina did not qualify either as far as I know.

These two I'd be much more interested in than the #2-4 here but who knows.

 

[puremagic]

Sofia Muravyova is really a joy for my eyes. She needs to improve jumps/BV and skating skills, but anyway, for 11 yo girl (04.08.2006) it's impressive. So light, musical and charming skating.

 

[Shayuki]

Sofia Muravyova is really a joy for my eyes. She needs to improve jumps/BV and skating skills, but anyway, for 11 yo girl (04.08.2006) it's impressive. So light, musical and charming skating.

I've never really paid attention, but I like her quite a bit. Actually, considering that she's essentially of the same age group as Samodelkina, she really isn't that bad when it comes to tech. Samodelkina struggles with 3-3s and all. I especially like the mood change for the choreo during the step sequence. And overall, very strong performing.

Hmm, I wonder how she actually would compare to Samodelkina if they both were to skate in the same competition. It's too bad that 06s and 07s are split to different groups, essentially. Even though they'll be junior eligible at the same time. Well, I guess we'll know soon enough. Because this competition has Samodelkina, Berestovskaya as well as Muravyova in 1 sports category in a couple of weeks.

 

[puremagic]

I've never really paid attention, but I like her quite a bit. Actually, considering that she's essentially of the same age group as Samodelkina, she really isn't that bad when it comes to tech. Samodelkina struggles with 3-3s and all. I especially like the mood change for the choreo during the step sequence. And overall, very strong performing.

Hmm, I wonder how she actually would compare to Samodelkina if they both were to skate in the same competition. It's too bad that 06s and 07s are split to different groups, essentially. Even though they'll be junior eligible at the same time. Well, I guess we'll know soon enough. Because this competition has Samodelkina, Berestovskaya as well as Muravyova in 1 sports category in a couple of weeks.

Same with Usacheva, but I don't know what's her problem that now she can't even skate clean the short program. Her FP is a total crap, like mix of worst parts of Zagitova's SP and FP, really painful to watch it, and I understand why she can't skate it nice and clean. But her SP is well choreographed, her 2A jump for me is the best double axel among all junior/senior ladies, really nice height and soft landing, also she has soft blades with smooth skating. She just needs to fix some jumps and change her crap free program to more less good one.

I see in this competition many Tsareva's skaters. Also looking forward to see again Maria Zakharova (21.09.2007). There is also some girl from Crystal, which I haven't seen yet, - 50. Ekaterina Yuryeva. I suppose she is as well from Tsareva's group, will be interesting to see how she will skate there.

By the way, we can make some predictions of those ladies, who might repeat Zagitova's case in the future. Top 5, for example.

I would say it's:

1. Maria Markholia
2. Sofia Surkova
3. Daria Usacheva
4. Sofia Muravyova
5. Maria Zakharova

Some of them will shoot out sooner or later, I guess.

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What's your bets? Who are those mystery ladies?

 

[Shayuki]

An interesting development happened just this morning: https://www.sportvokrug.ru/competitions/3355//participants/

Sofia Dzepka's name is not grayed out.


Also, Agh. I missed it but apparently there was an amazing 1. jun event(09-10) yesterday at Кубок А. Н. Мишина or whatever.

1. Anastasia Marasanova 22.89+25.52=47.41 points
2. Mariyana Mukhina 20.39+25.16=45.55 points
3. Agata Petrova 19.78+25.00=44.78 points
4. Anna Batyrova 18.59+25.84=44.43 points

Should be in this video when the full length one becomes available. But they tend to get deleted really soon after appearing so hopefully I'll be able to capture all of these performances before they're gone.

 

[puremagic]

Also, Agh. I missed it but apparently there was an amazing 1. jun event(09-10) yesterday at Кубок А. Н. Мишина or whatever.

1. Anastasia Marasanova 22.89+25.52=47.41 points
2. Mariyana Mukhina 20.39+25.16=45.55 points
3. Agata Petrova 19.78+25.00=44.78 points
4. Anna Batyrova 18.59+25.84=44.43 points

Should be in this video when the full length one becomes available. But they tend to get deleted really soon after appearing so hopefully I'll be able to capture all of these performances before they're gone.

I can't remember such PCS at any Moscow's competition, I don't know what's wrong with St. Pete, why they always overscore their skaters? Even at jun. 1 level. I can't find Dzepka's pc scores, but I doubt it was higher than 22-24 points. Here's all top 4 ladies have 25 PCS. Maybe they use some old standards and rules regarding PC scores? This is total misleading. Just compare recent St. Pete Cup's scores with current Moscow Cup's. What the hell are they doing?

An interesting development happened just this morning: https://www.sportvokrug.ru/competitions/3355//participants/

Sofia Dzepka's name is not grayed out.

Moreover, the famous and one of two available Dzepka's skate is from jun. 1 category? Just one program. And now she's in the sport 2 category, which means two programs with step sequence. Let's hope she'll be there!