"The squeaky wheel always get the most oil"! Although Ashley did not place in the top three, she is getting the most attention and coverage. There is not much coverage about the three girls that worked so hard to get where they are instead taking it for granted. Ashley is a sore loser and in order for her to go to the Olympics, it means that someone that earned the right to go, has to stay home. Figure Skating is a judged sport and you have to rely on the judges scores. If everyone started to be furious and kick up Old he-- over their scores, it's over for everyone. Ashley is 26 years old and a grown woman, I don't think anybody owes her anything with regards to figure skating. There have been more talented skaters that had to face reality and accept the fact that it's over when it's over. Just saying..
Wagner "furious" on scores
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My response to "life giving young lemons" is not to accept it but to try to make changes that you won't be given lemons anymore but a nice glass of sweet lemonade.
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Ashley said she agreed with the selection criteria. So I don't get what the purpose of this was, other than whining.
I think this sounds closer to the truth. At least from appearances it seems like those ladies are more than willing to give Ashley all the media attention as long as they have their Olympic spots.
However, given the short window figure skaters have and this being probably the most lucrative part of their careers, I'm surprised they don't have agents pounding the pavement more.
It's called marketing! Good for her.
Ashley is right that her PCS was not in line with her previous scores. Why the judges decided to score her lower at Nationals is very strange. I think Ashley had a right to speak out in the moment. It is nothing compared to Plushenko getting on the gold step on the podium in Vancouver or Irina's protest of her silver medal in SLC or Sale and Pelletier's obvious disagreement with the results in SLC. She just said what a lot of other skaters are probably feeling when a low score comes up. Even a sainted skater like Michelle Kwan showed displeasure in the Kiss and Cry after her short program scores came up in SLC.
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Here is Today Show's coverage. Video is partway down the page. https://www.today.com/news/ashley-wagner-furious-reaction-missing-olympics-no-regrets-t121031
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Ross on tomorrow- "I don't agree with the decision either. I have been skating for over twenty years..." Actually no, he's too classy for that.
As expected she handled it like a pro. She is a piece of work and that is why she stays relevant.
She: 1) focused on her heartbreak and 22 years of skating, 2) stood by her comments because they were in the moment (stayed true to her brand), 3) kept it to the PCS comparison between past comps and this one, 4) congratulated the other ladies and said they deserved their spots.
Eh, I don't think it was very pro. She should have used this chance to say, "I didn't make the team. I'm disappointed but that's all I'm going to say about it. Here's what I am doing next" and talk about all her positive projects. It just came off so mopey and negative. She's still trying to convince the committee.
Good.
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I was impressed with how she spoke up for the women on the team and said she did not want to delegitimize their spots because people had tried to do that to her. Honestly, I think most of the people who criticize her are still obsessed with how she "stole" Mirai's spot in 2014.
It was exciting to hear she is training for 4CC. I will admit that a part of me was worried she was going to announce her retirement.
It was exciting to hear she is training for 4CC. I will admit that a part of me was worried she was going to announce her retirement.
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She said that she agreed with the selection criteria of choosing the top 3.
She doesn't think she should be the 4th.
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Well, Ross has said he doesn't agree with the decision he has alluded to it being politicized and even used the term "back-room deal", which of course is his opinion. (https://www.nbcboston.com/news/loca...Miner-Shocked-by-Olympics-Snub-468535473.html)
But nobody's raking him over the coals for suggesting that things are political or even implying that some shady deal was struck, because that's him calling a spade a spade and giving his opinion. It's the same reason people are supporting Wagner. Frustration or injustice is something that should be expressed and addressed... not internalized while you put on a smiley veneer, because that almost makes it seem like you're cool with it. These are humans, not just athletes. They work hard and have earned the right to call people out (as people have the right to criticize or support them for doing so).
Also, I think Wagner knows the decision is finalized and isn't trying to convince the committee. As far as using it as a chance to dismiss the bad judging or apologize for a genuine (and justifiable) reaction, that's just not Ashley.
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I agree. It was clear to most rational and knowledgeable people, who were non Ashley haters, that Ashley clearly and undisputably deserved to win the title last year. So when she was wrongfully deprived the U.S title last year, when champions like her if anything usually get the benefit of the doubt and are the ones robbing others and not vice versa, it was crystal clear she was now on the outs with an ungrateful USFSA for whatever reason. And she had to be letter perfect and have everyone else mess up badly to hope to make the U.S Olympic team this year. Her couple errors were just the excuse they needed to achieve their strongest desire, bumping her off the team, even with Chen skating horribly and far worse.
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People have loved to hate on Ashley ever since she was rightfully placed on an Olympic Team she fully merited being on despite her correct 4th place finish at the 2014 Nationals. Which is even the more laughable seeing Rippon, a far less accomplished skater, and even to some extent Zhou (considering while he did place top 3 he is still now in effect bypassing the higher placed 2nd place finisher), an even less accomplished skater than Rippon, are being bypassed from any scrutiny whatsoever.
Furthermore many Americans especialy say they want their skaters to be more vocal and determined to reach their goals, yet when a strong, independent, and confident women like Ashley speaks her mind, and says things that in this instance are in fact the exact truth, she gets raked over the coals for it. Go figure. There is no winning with some people.
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Thats a little odd, because Gracie is a midwesterner (Kansas City, Chicago area), not originally So-Cal, only lived there from what 18-21. Its funny that she sounds so much like she is from there.
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Ashley did fine. She was honest, straightforward and gracious. Good for her.
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