hockeyfan228 said:The same could be said for Kwan in the 1998 and 2002 Olympics.
MKFSfan said:Hmm...I'll give you that compared to 1998 Nationals, Michelle's Olympic long that year was missing something....Lyra as performed at 1998 Olympics was still a well down program-I thought it was 2nd best she skated it that year, and had Tara not skated the LP of her life, Lyra would have been an OGM worthy program, even with the slight fumble on the 3flip landing.
chuckm said:I find it interesting that the two performances of Irina's where she showed no "heart", fire or personality were the 2002 Olympics and the 2006 Olympics.
slutskayafan21 said:Its called pressure.
The question was about fire, "heart," and personality, which I think was missing from 1998 Kwan. I think that the difference between Kwan in 1998 and Kwan in 2002 and Slutskaya in 2002 and 2006 was that Kwan 1998 was technically brilliant, while Kwan in 2002 and Slutskaya in 2002 and 2006 were not.MKFSfan said:Hmm...I'll give you that compared to 1998 Nationals, Michelle's Olympic long that year was missing something. BUT I would not put that LP in the same category with Michelle's 2002, Irina's 2002, 06 or Sasha's 2006 Olympic LP's. Although, I do think Michelle in 2002 and Sasha in 2006 both had some memorable moments in their LP, while Irina's were both a disappointment by her standards. Lyra as performed at 1998 Olympics was still a well down program-I thought it was 2nd best she skated it that year, and had Tara not skated the LP of her life, Lyra would have been an OGM worthy program, even with the slight fumble on the 3flip landing.
:yes:Seanibu said:I have a hard time believing that the most decorated Japanese skater is anything close to second rate.
I don't know about Russian Nationals, but since her illness (2003-4 season) ,Slutskaya won every ISU event in which she was ahead at the end of her SP, and lost the two where she was second after the SP:Mafke said:I'd also noted that Slute did her best LPs when she was well out in front after the SP and was generally told that I was wrong, she was a new skater after her illness, etc etc etc
Mathman said:I would love to be able to sit down with Ms. Nicole and discuss what it was that she saw in these two different skaters that guided her to take that route.
MM
hockeyfan228 said:The question was about fire, "heart," and personality, which I think was missing from 1998 Kwan. I think that the difference between Kwan in 1998 and Kwan in 2002 and Slutskaya in 2002 and 2006 was that Kwan 1998 was technically brilliant, while Kwan in 2002 and Slutskaya in 2002 and 2006 were not.
antmanb said:I know i say this time and time aagin but i think the people who think Kwan skated without fire or passion in 1998 were the ones who watched US natioanls...i didn't and i thought her Olympic LP was beautiful and passionate. I'll repeat again also, that on my footage of the LP (both the BBC and Europsport) the triple flip is clean and there's no problem with it (again i'm told on the US broadcast it isn't so clear). I really don't see any lack of emotion in that program or anything of the usual criticisms of that progam and i can only assume that's because i don't have the US nationals version as a comparator.
Ant
MKFSfan said:Oh, interesting! My copy shows a bit of a saved landing. So, if I had to nitpick that performance, that is the only flaw. The girl skated cleanly, landed 7 triples. OK, she didn't go all out like in Philly and maybe even succumbed to the pressure a bit, BUT she was still more on that year than she was in 2002, or Irina was either Olympics, or Sasha this Olympics.
Joesitz said:I do believe little tykes tug at the hearts of the viewers and unfortunately, the judges.
Joe