Although she is ranked the highest out of all of the other skaters, it's fair because the skaters in front of her earned their grand prix standings and deserve to skate after her. But I really doubt she'll be one of the first to skate in the free skate. But now that Gracie Gold withdrew, does Rika Hongo replace her as 4th or is Rika now 6th, meaning Yulia and Wagner move up one spot?
Yulia Lipnitskaya
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Although she is ranked the highest out of all of the other skaters, it's fair because the skaters in front of her earned their grand prix standings and deserve to skate after her. But I really doubt she'll be one of the first to skate in the free skate. But now that Gracie Gold withdrew, does Rika Hongo replace her as 4th or is Rika now 6th, meaning Yulia and Wagner move up one spot?
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It should be Hongo 1st, Wagner 2nd and Yulia 3rd to skate, I think.
She doesn't like to skate last, but I'm afraid judges will hold back a bit with the scoring since there are still the top three to skate after. Therefore she needs to be absolutely great in the SP.
She doesn't like to skate last, but I'm afraid judges will hold back a bit with the scoring since there are still the top three to skate after. Therefore she needs to be absolutely great in the SP.
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No matter the score in the SP she'll be great :yes: They held her down in last years GPF SP and she still got silver in the end. If she skates well she'll find a way on to the podium. Even if not...who cares. She is building toward something bigger than GPF.
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Yep. That's the most important thing for her right now.
I think she already feel more confident after TEB. So, a good skate in Barcelona it's crucial not for a medal there, but for a longer objective. I think she wants to be in the team and win Worlds, possibly confirm the European title as well.
It's going to be difficult but not impossible. Well, I'm happy she is going to be around for some years anyway.
In her most recent interviews she brings up the four year horizon. She has often told us how she wants to express her feelings, please her fans (those who are moved by her performances) and make progress toward her goals, but in the real world she has to pay attention to winning and judges in order to maintain exposure and financial security. She resists becoming a cultural icon, but she is irresistibly charismatic. She is intuitive and needs time to experiment (for example, with music choice and expressing the music) but she is constantly pushed by artificial deadlines. She has to deal with the pressure of competitions, and then the even greater pressures of the consequences of competitions. Etc. I'm glad I'm not in her boots, I'd soon be sitting in a corner talking to myself and sucking my thumb.
She is getting good placements, her performance is improving, she perfected more difficult elements just a year ago. She has the unshakable safety net of family, coaches and other skaters, she benefits from their wisdom. With a four year horizon she can build on events, she can be constructive without feeling threatened and alienated. The scores will take care of themselves.
thanks for these insights
That's for sure
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There was a big interview of Eteri Tutberidze a couple of days ago where she confirmed all the bits and pieces of information coming o us from various sources.
Julia had a very difficult off-season, she was virtually drained both physically and mentally, suffered from micro=injuries all the summer. Three day of training were followed by three days off. She changed her skating boots, and had problems getting used to the new ones.
She had a free program which she liked very much, but th Federation reommended to replace it by something more conventional (they said that this one was too show-offy and entertaining), hence they had to create a new progam in mid-September.
As a resut, her free program was so raw that sh forgit her step sequence in China. But she improved greatly in France, had 2 weeks of training. Actually, Eteri says that they need 3-4 weeks of hard work to make the things smooth. THey will have this time befor Euros.
I don't know whether she'll be at her best in Barcelona, but my expectations are very high for Euros.
Julia had a very difficult off-season, she was virtually drained both physically and mentally, suffered from micro=injuries all the summer. Three day of training were followed by three days off. She changed her skating boots, and had problems getting used to the new ones.
She had a free program which she liked very much, but th Federation reommended to replace it by something more conventional (they said that this one was too show-offy and entertaining), hence they had to create a new progam in mid-September.
As a resut, her free program was so raw that sh forgit her step sequence in China. But she improved greatly in France, had 2 weeks of training. Actually, Eteri says that they need 3-4 weeks of hard work to make the things smooth. THey will have this time befor Euros.
I don't know whether she'll be at her best in Barcelona, but my expectations are very high for Euros.
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She likes to skate as early as possible. In fact, her preferred place is to skate the first in her flight. The 2nd is also OK.
It's a pity that she cannot skate Mulan however the new Juliet is still beautiful!
I hope she will skate that program in some gala, best in Worlds in Shanghai.
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Just want to share my dream last night. I dreamt of Yulia. She was skating to my favourite music piece in front of a huge Opera Stage, that is Festival Bregenz.
It's this place: https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=...HVmgXo-4DACQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=662
Absolutely beautiful!
And she was skating to this aria: http://youtu.be/e1k5l4oiCEc
In my dream, of course
It's this place: https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=...HVmgXo-4DACQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=662
Absolutely beautiful!
And she was skating to this aria: http://youtu.be/e1k5l4oiCEc
In my dream, of course
Just want to share my dream last night. I dreamt of Yulia. She was skating to my favourite music piece in front of a huge Opera Stage, that is Festival Bregenz.
It's this place: https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=...HVmgXo-4DACQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=662
Absolutely beautiful!
And she was skating to this aria: http://youtu.be/e1k5l4oiCEc
In my dream, of course
I hope you dream often! What a subconscious. When listening to this suddenly there she is, it's spontaneous. Have not a clue why, she just pops into my mind. This would be superb. Meoima, wasn't it you who thought of Rachmaninoff's Vocalise? You might enjoy this also, maybe you already know it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iI8tMHrD_c
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That's what I think too.
More conventional? Too entertaining? One more needless source of stress and conflict with serious consequences. Pardon me while I leave the room, I think I'm going to lose my breakfast.
As you said weeks ago, she was not prepared. And so far she is on the schedule you predicted. Do you do stocks and bonds also?
Has this been some weird test of her mental strength? Let's hope the chaos is behind her. She deserves a medal just for surviving.
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I completely agree!!
I didn't know entertaining is a bad quality of a program. ..?
Jason Brown's Riverdance, Yuna Kim's James Bond, Yuzuru's Parisienne Walkways were all very entertaining and some of the best programs these athletes have had, just to name a few of the many examples.
And Yulia definitely isn't the type of skater who would overdo it and make it look like comedy, if that's what the federation was afraid of.
I feel pretty sorry for her, because of the situation they put her in, but also for us fans because I think that Mulan would have been to die for.
But dieser Zug ist abgefahren, as we say here in Germany, that train has left the station.
Nothing we or she can do about it now. We should enjoy Juliet instead
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I hope she will use Mulan next season and make those snob in Russian fed shock!! Like this
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I'm not good with predictions, but I can see when the problem is with lack of preparation.
Some jumped at the time that she's having growth issues.
I totally disagreed, because of a simple fact. She let it go completely and she did bad in the step sequence. Now the step sequence has nothing to do with puberty and jumps.
Furthermore, there was a huge difference between her SP and her LP, which suggest that in one she felt confident enough because it was well prepared and in time.
Add to that all the small injuries, being ill, boots change, last minute program. She cancelled JO also. Well, I would like to see who's the one to rock it in the first appearence. :sarcasm:
Obviously having to compete and medal, possibly win, adds pressure and that doesn't help much. But it can help for the program because it's like a trial stage, and on the mental strength as you said.
Ilya as well said, after China, that she will be in time for the Russian nationals. Note that he was speaking, then, about nationals not TEB or GPF.
But I fully expect her to be better and better with each competition. :yes:I remember Yulia speaking about this. She said that by the time they presented Mulan to the FED officials, at closed test skate in August, that program was not fully completed.
Remember that Ilya was busy during that period and that was the second program.
So, probably there wasn't much to see or they were not able to see the potential.
However, I do think R&J is a beautiful program and I believe we will see Mulan as exh. program in China.
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I haven't ranted in a while
There has been a looming elephant in the room and I'm in the mood to address it. For one it's no secret that Yulia has been thru stress and there has been speculation here and in the media for a while that she could quit the sport altogether. Well.....here I go.
After all she has given to the sport I wouldn't blame her if she wanted to quit. Especially when you see some of the drama that has befallen her. I've been following her since before Sochi and it's apparent a change is brewing in her. Whether that change is in the direction of renewed spirit or of lost interest only she can tell us. I am patient and right now as her fan I am more content than ever to just sit and allow her the time to figure it out. You aren't going to see me in the other threads saying her scores are too low and being dismissive to other skaters. She has already given us more than what most skaters will accomplish in their careers and more than any fan can ask for. Maybe she isn't looking to be in her 20's and still competing. It isn't required and maybe not even normal to do so. Maybe she would like to move back to Yekaterinburg and raise horses. Although I think as long as she pursues her career she will be amongst the best in the field the choice is hers.
On a personal note I believe she is rekindling a flame that went out with the torch in Sochi. I'd compare it to love. The first few years were fun and exciting filled with adventures, discovery, and carried a sense of freedom . Last season was the engagement and with it all the meticulous planning and coordinating to work toward the wedding. A bit of a squeeze was felt. So much work, so much stress, and all the hoops she needed to jump thru just to make the wedding day happen. Well...the wedding took place in Sochi and the ceremony had beautiful moments and she will always look back with fond memories on this day. She had a quick honeymoon in Saitama. Now.....the marriage starts. Fully committed with little other options to explore. The sense of wonder has escaped and been replaced with one of reality. She has seen it all and the innocence of a new experience can not be found. Can she find the beauty in this? I can't answer that. Will she blossom into a young lady who grows from this and uses these feelings to redefine her reality into positive things. Only time will tell. It is a tall order to ask of a 16 yr old with little life experience outside of figure skating. But this is figure skating. It's what she knows and has worked so hard to achieve. All of the work she has done to this point is to create this road. It is a road that was made out of nothing and it goes where she decides it goes. It could simply become a road to home. No matter what she decides I will back her 100% and after all she has given it's the least I feel I can offer as a fan. My heart says she is going to continue to skate and mostly because the reason she continues to train and show up to competitions is the reason she committed in the first place. This is who she is and was meant to be. I believe most things happen for a reason and she is on the path that she should be on.
Now I will rant a bit more with less focus
This is the first competition I watched that made me 100% sure that she is something special and very unique. I work with a few Russian coaches and they shared this with me a few years back. I was floored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsO8AxKQnsE
http://www.odnoklassniki.ru/video/1908147643
I knew I was in for a challenge when I started posting on forums and I began to point out how great her 2a was especially in the SP To me.....It's one of the best ever. The flow in and especially out is amazing and the way she dips and exits is amazing. She has a certain posture that just isn't common. Its strong! So then I realized that people were calling it "Junior" to do it this way. Well none of the Juniors at my rinks can do it this way but whatever. What they really meant.....our seniors are incapable of such things and therefore.....it should be disparaged and of course it should be scored less. They then proceeded to hedge certain bullet points to hold more weight than others in an attempt to discredit her jumps and ignored the fairness of such practices. Oh but her jumps are low. Hmm...ok but what about the other 7 bullets. Five of which she absolutely define. Of course you can see where this is leading. I'm beginning to learn to ignore the ignorable. I've created my own little.....unthinkable pile. My ignore list is staggering these days.
I guess the point in all of this is....just stay strong and trust in Yulia. I see people are even holding it against her that she is fully rotating her jumps and it's only because she is so small. Lol and Lol. Well maybe one day she can pack on the pounds and start UR'ing her jumps....not retire....and then you can be her fan.
I haven't posted as much lately and now I've gone overboard. It seems every month or so I just let out one of these rants.
There has been a looming elephant in the room and I'm in the mood to address it. For one it's no secret that Yulia has been thru stress and there has been speculation here and in the media for a while that she could quit the sport altogether. Well.....here I go.
After all she has given to the sport I wouldn't blame her if she wanted to quit. Especially when you see some of the drama that has befallen her. I've been following her since before Sochi and it's apparent a change is brewing in her. Whether that change is in the direction of renewed spirit or of lost interest only she can tell us. I am patient and right now as her fan I am more content than ever to just sit and allow her the time to figure it out. You aren't going to see me in the other threads saying her scores are too low and being dismissive to other skaters. She has already given us more than what most skaters will accomplish in their careers and more than any fan can ask for. Maybe she isn't looking to be in her 20's and still competing. It isn't required and maybe not even normal to do so. Maybe she would like to move back to Yekaterinburg and raise horses. Although I think as long as she pursues her career she will be amongst the best in the field the choice is hers.
On a personal note I believe she is rekindling a flame that went out with the torch in Sochi. I'd compare it to love. The first few years were fun and exciting filled with adventures, discovery, and carried a sense of freedom . Last season was the engagement and with it all the meticulous planning and coordinating to work toward the wedding. A bit of a squeeze was felt. So much work, so much stress, and all the hoops she needed to jump thru just to make the wedding day happen. Well...the wedding took place in Sochi and the ceremony had beautiful moments and she will always look back with fond memories on this day. She had a quick honeymoon in Saitama. Now.....the marriage starts. Fully committed with little other options to explore. The sense of wonder has escaped and been replaced with one of reality. She has seen it all and the innocence of a new experience can not be found. Can she find the beauty in this? I can't answer that. Will she blossom into a young lady who grows from this and uses these feelings to redefine her reality into positive things. Only time will tell. It is a tall order to ask of a 16 yr old with little life experience outside of figure skating. But this is figure skating. It's what she knows and has worked so hard to achieve. All of the work she has done to this point is to create this road. It is a road that was made out of nothing and it goes where she decides it goes. It could simply become a road to home. No matter what she decides I will back her 100% and after all she has given it's the least I feel I can offer as a fan. My heart says she is going to continue to skate and mostly because the reason she continues to train and show up to competitions is the reason she committed in the first place. This is who she is and was meant to be. I believe most things happen for a reason and she is on the path that she should be on.
Now I will rant a bit more with less focus
This is the first competition I watched that made me 100% sure that she is something special and very unique. I work with a few Russian coaches and they shared this with me a few years back. I was floored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsO8AxKQnsE
http://www.odnoklassniki.ru/video/1908147643
I knew I was in for a challenge when I started posting on forums and I began to point out how great her 2a was especially in the SP To me.....It's one of the best ever. The flow in and especially out is amazing and the way she dips and exits is amazing. She has a certain posture that just isn't common. Its strong! So then I realized that people were calling it "Junior" to do it this way. Well none of the Juniors at my rinks can do it this way but whatever. What they really meant.....our seniors are incapable of such things and therefore.....it should be disparaged and of course it should be scored less. They then proceeded to hedge certain bullet points to hold more weight than others in an attempt to discredit her jumps and ignored the fairness of such practices. Oh but her jumps are low. Hmm...ok but what about the other 7 bullets. Five of which she absolutely define. Of course you can see where this is leading. I'm beginning to learn to ignore the ignorable. I've created my own little.....unthinkable pile. My ignore list is staggering these days.
I guess the point in all of this is....just stay strong and trust in Yulia. I see people are even holding it against her that she is fully rotating her jumps and it's only because she is so small. Lol and Lol. Well maybe one day she can pack on the pounds and start UR'ing her jumps....not retire....and then you can be her fan.
I haven't posted as much lately and now I've gone overboard. It seems every month or so I just let out one of these rants.
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