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I really enjoyed the interview with Marina Zueva. So many warm words about Julia, now she needs such support from the experts!
The main surprise that the gala exhibition is the idea of Julia. I thought Marina Zueva came up with such a hot look!:o:
 
Yuri Shevchenko said:
I really enjoyed the interview with Marina Zueva. So many warm words about Julia, now she needs such support from the experts!
The main surprise that the gala exhibition is the idea of Julia. I thought Marina Zueva came up with such a hot look!:o:
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:clap: I agree!! It is so great to read all the nice things she said :)
 
Re-watched the SA FP and that step sequence is still beautiful. Also noticed a wonderful smile entering into the spread-eagle. Hope that indicates a good state of mind. Wish her the best!
 
Ituriel said:
Top 10 ice skating tricksThis guy knows NOTHING about figure skating (the names! :laugh2:) but, he loves Yulia :biggrin:
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Getting the names wrong is one thing I can forgive but not giving Julia the #1 cool trick is where I draw the line. :biggrin:

Good to see our girl is still bringing people into the sport. There is only one Julia and she will capture your imagination and in return give you inspiration.
 
http://rbth.com/sport/2015/10/28/ev...rusias-new-teenage-figure-skating-star_534897

Evgenia Medvedeva: 5 facts about Russia’s new teenage figure skating star

part of Julia

3. Medvedeva trains with Yulia Lipnitskaya

Immediately after the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, when the whole world fell in love with the girl with the red coat from the "Schindler's List" program, Medvedeva was asked what it was like to share the ice and a trainer with the Olympic champion.

Despite her young age, Medvedeva responded tactfully and politely to the provocative question.

"I always follow my own path," said Medvedeva. "I am happy for Yulia. But I need to achieve everything myself. Off the ice we all get together. We are normal people – we have fun, we talk, we have normal relations. On the ice there is certain competition and it spurs us on. But there has never been any enmity between us, and there never will be…”
 
plushyfan said:
http://rbth.com/sport/2015/10/28/ev...rusias-new-teenage-figure-skating-star_534897

Evgenia Medvedeva: 5 facts about Russia’s new teenage figure skating star

part of Julia

3. Medvedeva trains with Yulia Lipnitskaya

Immediately after the 2014 Olympics in Sochi, when the whole world fell in love with the girl with the red coat from the "Schindler's List" program, Medvedeva was asked what it was like to share the ice and a trainer with the Olympic champion.

Despite her young age, Medvedeva responded tactfully and politely to the provocative question.

"I always follow my own path," said Medvedeva. "I am happy for Yulia. But I need to achieve everything myself. Off the ice we all get together. We are normal people – we have fun, we talk, we have normal relations. On the ice there is certain competition and it spurs us on. But there has never been any enmity between us, and there never will be…”
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I read that. Made me happy to get conformation from the skater herself that Yulia and Evgenia get along good.
 
Spiral said:
I know that most instrumental music is abstract, but in such cases composers don't give their creations specific titles like "Leningrad." I'm not saying that there's anything wrong at all in skaters putting different meaning into the music they skate to than the one the composer had in mind, and it's certainly been done plenty of time before, but I personally am curious what Joseph had in mind when he was creating this music, partly because I find the music itself interesting and partly because I'd like to know if this idea behind the program was Yulia's or Zueva's, or if it went with the music.
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Spiral, I think we can forget about commentary from William Joseph. I searched after replying to you, but found only that he studied with an emigre Russian teacher for many years in Phoenix. The teacher was trained in the Russian academies so we can be sure she was a fine pianist and very strict. There may be a connection there, it certainly shows in his playing. It's reasonable to assume they talked about Leningrad and its cultural significance in Russia. Leningrad was composed about 5 years ago and he doesn't regard it as highly as some of his other work, so we're probably out of luck.

I assume your larger question has to do with describing Leningrad as red sails and sunny beaches. Skepticism seems justified. We don't need William Joseph to verify that it has nothing to do with red sails and sunny beaches. If there is a girl alone on the beach (which fits), the music makes clear that she's too distracted by her own problems to be interested in anything else. Marina's unlikely description is odd enough. Even odder is that Marina's choreo closely matches the pathos and ecstasy of the music, but contradicts her own description. Better that than the other way. Yulia's official ISU profile lists 3 choreographers, Marina Zueva, D. Gleikhengauz, G. Podtykova. It seems we live in a surreal world. If you come up with an explanation, please don't keep it to yourself.
 
sjid said:
Spiral, I think we can forget about commentary from William Joseph. I searched after replying to you, but found only that he studied with an emigre Russian teacher for many years in Phoenix. The teacher was trained in the Russian academies so we can be sure she was a fine pianist and very strict. There may be a connection there, it certainly shows in his playing. It's reasonable to assume they talked about Leningrad and its cultural significance in Russia. Leningrad was composed about 5 years ago and he doesn't regard it as highly as some of his other work, so we're probably out of luck.

I assume your larger question has to do with describing Leningrad as red sails and sunny beaches. Skepticism seems justified. We don't need William Joseph to verify that it has nothing to do with red sails and sunny beaches. If there is a girl alone on the beach (which fits), the music makes clear that she's too distracted by her own problems to be interested in anything else. Marina's unlikely description is odd enough. Even odder is that Marina's choreo closely matches the pathos and ecstasy of the music, but contradicts her own description. Better that than the other way. Yulia's official ISU profile lists 3 choreographers, Marina Zueva, D. Gleikhengauz, G. Podtykova. It seems we live in a surreal world. If you come up with an explanation, please don't keep it to yourself.
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Thank you very much for replying! I didn't mean to make a research project for anybody - I just asked in case somebody happened to know, since there are posters who are very knowledgeable about music. I also found the information about the Russian teacher and also thought it likely that the inspiration came from something she shared about Leningrad, but I couldn’t find anything specific about this music either. I'd say if this teacher wasn't herself from Leningrad, it was most likely to be about the blockade, since that would be the most emotional association with the city for non-residents, but if she had lived there herself, it could be anything, could be just about the city in general too.

My question was not about describing Leningrad as "sunny beaches." Even in Leningrad it doesn't rain all the time, despite the locals' cynical jokes. I spent a fortnight there about 25 years ago in the summer. The weather was lovely the entire time - sunny and very warm, and my main problem was remembering to drink enough liquids to stay hydrated. Besides, Zueva didn't speak about sunny beaches. She said about the choice of music for the SP: "I offered different options, and she (Yulia) liked this music very much. It's romance, Leningrad, the Baltic, a steamer, red sails. The spirit of this program is a dreaming girl on the shore. This program is similar to her usual style, and I think that's right. Otherwise there'd be too many new movements." That all does fit together. Leningrad is very close to the Baltic sea - Peter I fought for this land with the Swedes in order to get access to the sea trading routes. So the association with ships/steamers makes sense. I assume that "red sails" is a reference to the novel by Aleksander Grin of the same title. It has nothing to do with Leningrad, but the heroine who lives in an unspecified port town dreams that someday "a prince" will come for her in a ship with red sails. Everybody laughs at her, but one day a young captain who fell in love with her does just that - yes, he buys reams of red cloth to rig out the entire ship just to make her dream come true. As he says, "If a person wants a fairy-tale, let's create a fairy-tale for her!" Since many girls anywhere dream of meeting a young man with such an attitude, I can see where the reference belongs in that row of descriptions, especially if she’s supposed to be in a port town, looking at ships.

What I was wondering was not the idea of associating Leningrad with romance, but the idea of associating this particular music with romance. Neither the music, nor the choreography particularly suggests romance to me anymore than to you. Maybe when I re-watch it during TEB with this new information in mind, I'll manage to see the possibility for such an interpretation, but it's not something that the program or the music naturally suggests to me. And like you, I have no explanation for it either, especially since Yulia already had a program about dreaming in both of her previous senior seasons ("Don't give up on love" and "Megapolis"). This looked like something in her general reflective style, but not on the same topic before. My guess - and it's just a guess - is that the romantic meaning is Zueva's idea, that she doesn't know what the composer had in mind anymore than we do (I would guess that either the blockade during WWII or something else, but not romantic daydreams), but Zueva probably thought that one program in a new style is enough and decided to make the LP really comfortable for Yulia, especially considering her technical puberty-related issues and the lack of confidence that goes with not being able to be consistent, and the fact that a long program is, of course, more demanding on the stamina. Well, I'd say if Adian can think of his dream car while skating (and have the right look - I love both his programs), then Yulia can daydream about a city on the sea and a young man who'll make her every romantic dream come true. I don't think about cars when I watch Adian's programs, and if I can't make the romantic associations fit Yulia's LP in my mind, I'll think of whatever it suggests to me and enjoy it.

Thank you again and I apologize for having caused you to spend time on looking things up.
 
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