But Eteri is training rivals.
Yulia Lipnitskaya
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But Eteri is training rivals.
I'm not the person to answer this, but I'd be surprised if they do. Russians are famously stoic.
another thing, i should clarify that sports psychologists are psychologists, just not the clinical psychologists who we typically think of. also, the science of psychology has withstood generations of intense criticism and scrutiny. at this point its purported benefits are well established and accepted by the scientific community. but anyways...
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Actually they are. Yagudin worked with one, when he was preparing for SL City under Tarasova. I know Gachinsky is working with one as well. Other russian skaters used them. It's not uncommon. As someone mentioned above, it's about sports psychologist and not psychoanalyst. In Italy they use it a lot, or someone called a motivational trainer which probably is the same thing.
As for Mishin working with Yulia, well I think that's impossible for many reasons, and tbh I'm not that keen him working with her.
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Mishin with Yulia will be the death of me... Better than Morozov though.
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It's weird. Yulia plunged into the study and all the passion around it had to subside until the autumn. But no. First, after warnings from the Ministry all who were involved, deafening silence. Upcoming tournaments were also required to draw attention to himself. I too was hoping for silence.
But here Tarasova and Mishin made a curtsey to Yulia. This is no accident. Large, experts do not believe that Tutberidze able to correct the situation, to bring back Yulia and pick it up again on the podium. It is unknown what promised Tutberidze at the meeting in the Ministry, but experts don't believe it. And pre-set for Yulia pointers themselves as those who can help her in the future.
By the way, I don't believe, if Tutberidze could, it would already have done something earlier. And in the relationship of Yulia and Tutberidze something important is lost forever.
But here Tarasova and Mishin made a curtsey to Yulia. This is no accident. Large, experts do not believe that Tutberidze able to correct the situation, to bring back Yulia and pick it up again on the podium. It is unknown what promised Tutberidze at the meeting in the Ministry, but experts don't believe it. And pre-set for Yulia pointers themselves as those who can help her in the future.
By the way, I don't believe, if Tutberidze could, it would already have done something earlier. And in the relationship of Yulia and Tutberidze something important is lost forever.
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Yeah, and compare that to the interview he gave after the GPF? :sarcasm:
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Politic game you know. They're famous coaches, their comments have effect on the judges somehow...
They praised her and, at the same time, indicate its difficulties. Why? Talking about it is not timely. Therefore, it should be considered as an offer for the future.
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I know, but I'm surprised that someone might think that Mishin should offer her "assistance".
There were fresh statements. There were fresh statements. In any case, even the last reminders of the old interviews had no visible reason. Moreover, from CSKA.
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Maybe they think she needs a jumping coach. But seriously she can work with jump technicians, it doesn't have to be Mishin.I know, but I'm surprised that someone might think that Mishin should offer her "assistance".
I'm not a psychologist, so I'm not that familiar with too many specific techniques, but a good sports psychologist should be able to help her with things like confidence, improving focus so all the fan and media circus doesn't get to her, etc. One technique that's very commonly used by sports psychologist is visualization, and many many skaters talk about how that has helped them, including Elizabeth Manley and Joannie Rochette. And aside from personal testimonials from athletes about how it helped them, there's actual scientific evidence that it helps at a neurological level because visualizing doing an activity actually reinforces the neural pathways in the brain. Basically, the same neurons fire signals to your muscles when you're visualizing that activity as when you're physically doing that activity, and with more practice and more visualization, those pathways get stronger, helping create what we call muscle memory - or at least the neurological part of muscle memory.
By the GPF, Julia was expecting to make mistakes in the second half of her FS. Had she had a good amount of visualizing successful programs, her brain would have had well developed neural pathways for a successful program and we wouldn't have seen that confusion that came over her in some of her competitions. But that's really the main technique I'm familiar with from sports psychology (I actually know about it from reading a lot about neuroscience and neuroplasticity).
They are psychologists in practice, not just title. It's just that psychology is an incredibly broad field and they work with a broad range of groups. Some are more focused on illness and symptoms of illness. Others are more focused on helping people optimize various aspects of their life. But a lot of it is based in the same science. LIke I said before, there are simply different specializations, just like in medicine.
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When? Mishin's interview is from february. Tarasova have said nothing new or particular lately.
Exactly. Besides, Sergei Dudakov was Viktor Kudriavtsev student, one of the best jumping coaches. In anycase, I can hardly see Mishin doing the "assistant" coach to Yulia.
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Very true. I was just thinking that if Mishin were to be involved in any way, then the jumping component would make most sense.
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People, do you realize that Yulia has chosen Eteri to be her coach at the age of 9?! And she was very clear, either Etery or she's stopping with figure skating, in my opinion nothing has changed in Yulia's mind through the years. She has difficult but at the same time special relationship with Eteri, both have strong characters. Yulia is a smart girl she knows that Tarasova, Mishin, Goncharenko are not going to help her, she's ware of their hypocrisy. As far as Eteri's working with Yulia's rivals I can say only this:Yulia's trainer believes that the strong competition in her group will help everybody and I kind of agree with that at the same time I know that now Yulia needs more attention from Eteri and she'll get it because they both have something to prove to themselves.
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