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For me she looks more like a cowgirl than Beatrix Kiddo in that costume.
Yulia Lipnitskaya
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I am glad it is not serious. I hope they will have more official statement about her true condition so people will truly be relieved.
YesWay, If we should be so very lucky, I have a request. You may recall a photo you took about two years ago, you captured Yulia and Eteri in a pensive pose, standing on either side of the barrier at the side of the rink. I'd be grateful if you could provide an up-date with something similar, this time with Alexei. I would then use it as my desktop wallpaper for a very long time. Your shot of Yulia and Eteri had an intense spiritual quality, a unity that I found really wonderful. Another great photo, please, just a small request.
Thank you. This is good news. Given what we know and see in the videos, it's safe to assume the cramp was a direct product of stress. After both programs in Bratislava Yulia was breathing heavily. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdqOrLZMBbw from about 6:00, where we also see Alexei massaging her knees. Hyperventilation causes chemical imbalance in the blood which can alter muscle function. At Rostelecom we know she was suffering during the warm up, which would set off a vicious circle of increasing anxiety. She held up during the performance till the spin before Bang Bang. Begin at 6:55, the pain is visible when she lifts her leg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13UA5rLnqLI She continued, hoping it would correct itself. After the break she was able to resume normally. This is a classic case of anxiety-panic, by no means one of the worst.
It seems that in every FS she is wound up so tight that she experiences various physical symptoms of stress. I am a little concerned that she was also hyperventilating after the short program at Bratislava. One common corrective approach is to provide medication that lets her feel at peace. This may be the best option because with the right prescription anxiety will disappear, it will be a quick solution and just as effective physically as any other approach. They can adjust dosage until she feels relaxed. Eventually she will function well without meds. Yulia and Alexei have many options. We can be glad all these problems aren't from physical causes.
EDIT: this is exactly what mish described, cramps occur in some positions, not in others.
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Urmanov: we shall overcome
good good good. They are doing biochemistry tests.
Yes, I would love to get such a photo...! And if I do, you can be sure I will share it!
But, it requires a lot of luck. First of all, I have to be at a competition where Julia is competing! I have been very lucky in that respect the last few years - but it will surely not continue. After this season I don't expect I can go to so many competitions in person (if any!), especially with UK exchange rates (Brexit) making travel etc more expensive.
Then, I need a seat/position where such photos are possible. (And if Julia is chosen for World's, my seat is unlikely to offer that kind of opportunity there. It might be possible to move around in the practice sessions, but the best seats will be popular and hard to get... and in any case, even the practice sessions for Helsinki have allocated seating, so if the "owners" show up, those seats will not be "available" anyway...)
Even with a good position, there are usually very few opportunities for that type of photo, because other spectators, skaters, coaches etc will often be moving around making it difficult to get a clear view. Or she may have her back to me all the time. Or my reactions might be too slow to catch a poignant moment, if one happens (bearing in mind, I must also try to be discreet and unintrusive, because I am aware that some skaters - including Julia - may not appreciate cameras pointing at them too much...!)
Well. It wouldn't be so much fun, and so worthwhile, if it was too easy...! :-D
https://www.gazeta.ru/sport/2016/11/07/a_10311473.shtml
Interview with TAT:
GR: What can you say about the ladies skating? Everyone expected a Russian podium.
TAT: You can never expect anything, because anything can happen: from the hardest trauma to the greatest record. Sport is interesting because it is unpredictable. No result can be predicted beforehand.
GR: Lipnitskaya had a trauma during the skate...
TAT: That wasn't a trauma, she had a leg cramp during warm up, it was obvious. She should have unlaced the boot and drank some salted water quickly. It seemed that she dehydrated. Perhaps the is too skinny. Having a cramp can cause you to drown in the sea even if you can swim. Julia can "swim" though, and that's why she didn't "drown" here but finished the skate. Every athlete can ask for a pause during the skate. You will lose points for the pause, but you will still be able to compete. You can say that something happened with the leg, and get a couple of minutes. This time would be enough to unlace the boot, drink some water, lace it back and sting the leg with a small needle. It happens often. The coach Alexei Urmanov saw the problem during the warm up, and massaged the leg, but the cramp does not go away that fast.
GR: What happened to the athlete who was expected to have such a bright future in front of her after Sochi Olympics?
TAT: Expected by who? Nobody expected anything, this is a very difficult process. Anya Pogorilaya has passed it already, Lena Radionova is going through it now. Not without success, but not without losses, either. Radionova proved many times that she has character and that you can rely on her in big competitions and she would not let you down.
GR: What about Medvedeva, Tuktamysheva, Sotnikova?
TAT: Medvedeva is going through it as well, but she is above everyone right now. She works a lot.
Interview with TAT:
GR: What can you say about the ladies skating? Everyone expected a Russian podium.
TAT: You can never expect anything, because anything can happen: from the hardest trauma to the greatest record. Sport is interesting because it is unpredictable. No result can be predicted beforehand.
GR: Lipnitskaya had a trauma during the skate...
TAT: That wasn't a trauma, she had a leg cramp during warm up, it was obvious. She should have unlaced the boot and drank some salted water quickly. It seemed that she dehydrated. Perhaps the is too skinny. Having a cramp can cause you to drown in the sea even if you can swim. Julia can "swim" though, and that's why she didn't "drown" here but finished the skate. Every athlete can ask for a pause during the skate. You will lose points for the pause, but you will still be able to compete. You can say that something happened with the leg, and get a couple of minutes. This time would be enough to unlace the boot, drink some water, lace it back and sting the leg with a small needle. It happens often. The coach Alexei Urmanov saw the problem during the warm up, and massaged the leg, but the cramp does not go away that fast.
GR: What happened to the athlete who was expected to have such a bright future in front of her after Sochi Olympics?
TAT: Expected by who? Nobody expected anything, this is a very difficult process. Anya Pogorilaya has passed it already, Lena Radionova is going through it now. Not without success, but not without losses, either. Radionova proved many times that she has character and that you can rely on her in big competitions and she would not let you down.
GR: What about Medvedeva, Tuktamysheva, Sotnikova?
TAT: Medvedeva is going through it as well, but she is above everyone right now. She works a lot.
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Bestsemianova also said Yulia is too skinny.
I also think she is too skinny, she looks more slender than Sochi.
Her cramp can partly ascribed to her desire for a clean fs, she can make it during training and she is eager to prove that comeback, too eager that she had this terrible cramp.
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"She does not look like released from a concentration camp" - http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20161108/1111994977.html
"Now she feels normal" - http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20161108/1111994985.html
"Now she feels normal" - http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20161108/1111994985.html
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I dont get it, I put this first article in the google translator and what Urmanov said it was translated like this : "It really was not - said Urmanov on the phone -. It is quite a long time is we are in good shape It is not right to stage the Grand Prix in Moscow went so slim, it is quite a long time holds some weight there is none.. that, relatively speaking, in mid-September, she weighed 50 kilograms, and the start of the Grand Prix began to weigh forty. "http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20161108/1111994977.html
So in the middle of september her weight was 50 kg and month later 40kg ? It's probably wrong translation ?
So in the middle of september her weight was 50 kg and month later 40kg ? It's probably wrong translation ?
He said
It's not true that in the middle of september her weight was 50 kg and month later 40kg
But it's true that she looks too skinny, i even think she needs to gain some weight
Ah ok, thanks for clearing it up. I actually don't think that she looks too thin... She is slim , but you can see she builded some muscles, so I don't think she is starving. Look at those russian rythmic gymnasts, they are hell thin but they still have stamina to do things. You can actually get cramp in the muscle just from not eating correctly the day you make the competition. She could be in stress and not eat anything before the competition and the body could have run out of magnesium and bloodsugar and then comes cramping and you don't have to be even underweight.
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Julia's weight should not be a topic for discussion. I think she looks perfect and if she's happy with the way she looks then that's what matters most
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Hm...this is not esthetic question.She is beautiful.
Bestsemianova ( she was ice dance Oly Champ and world champ) and Tarasova mentioned it as the possible cause of the cramps. Urmanov responded to it, too. The proper diet, adequate fluid intake is very important.
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