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Yulia Lipnitskaya

Yulia separates public and personal, she won't be negative publicly. She never responded to the public rants of Averbukh or Eteri. Eteri's coaching changed with success, success she initially owed to Yulia. Eventually Yulia did not fit the mold of the new Eteri despite much effort and sacrifice. Yulia characterized Eteri's rink environment as very cruel, Urmanov said she came to him with a collosal psychological burden. She eventually sought medical attention in Israel, where she examined her experience from a more critical perspective than that of a child and adolescent skater. The revelations from her treatment changed her understanding of what she had been through, one manifestation being the academy that emphasizes sports psychology and innovations. Compare this to Eteri's doctrine of work, sacrifice and obedience. Eteri cannot accept Yulia without admitting shortcomings of her coaching method. There is nothing to bring Yulia and Eteri together, and a long and painful history to keep them apart.

Yulia is supported by perceptive friends and family, and with them has a found a raison d'etre. Make no mistake, this is a difficult transition for one who has been totally devoted to competitive skating. The picture of her standing pensively on the frozen Volga seems symbolic. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf_f0Ezl7mN/?hl=en&taken-by=sunnylipnitskaya

Thank you for the details and amazing post. I am hoping that coach Eteri is changing a little bit and not as hard on her skaters now and she was when she had Yulia. To me medvedeva and Zagitova are lovely people and seem absolutely normal and they are coached by Eteri. So I hope she is changing her ways and is not as harsh with her students today as she was with Yulia 4 years ago.
 
A rant: why do people say give up, when they mention mental health? Yulia, Gracie and all others who struggled with their health because of skating didn't give up. They fought as hard as anyone else. One doesn't allow mental illness to appear, it just does. In fact, some of the strongest people I know have struggled with depression, anxiety, etc. Yulia didn't give up. She chose her health over skating, which, IMO, should be celebrated instead of frowned upon.

Powerful words. Truth.
 
Katarina Witt recently said this about Yulia Lipnitskaya:
I look at these young girls and think: don't you have to protect them a bit from their own development curve? Is that not actually going too far? Is this really the development for this sport now? Biggest respect really, also for the men, but five quads... Even I, as an expert, get a gasping breathing from that. I am a little afraid that these maximum difficulties will become so normal that no one will understand how tough it is. It shows an ease of which I know how many hours of hard training are behind it. It hurts me to see how many injuries this has already caused, like broken arms and legs, also with Alina, or fatigue fractures like with Evgenia Medvedeva. Another good example is Yulia Lipnitskaya, the Russian Olympic team-champion from 2014. When I saw her skating four years ago, I thought: I look forward to her in four years. What a beautiful young woman she will be, with what charisma she will come back and show us how much more beautiful figure skating can be. She gave up because she couldn't take the pressure and had eating disorders. I do think that the International Skating Union and adult people have a responsibility and must live up to it - and perhaps curb this development a bit. It's a pity, when a 15-year-old girl becomes Olympic champion and then gives up a few years later - when I want to see her for another 15 years.
http://www.kicker.de/news/winterspo...tikel_dieser-druck---schon-mit-15-jahren.html

Katarina Witt is one of the legends of the sport I always enjoy hearing from her. it's important to understand the needs of the skaters who are struggling physically or mentally but I'm not sure you should raise the age limits to save these young girls. For many of them like Yulia Adelina Medvedeva and Zagitova they are great at very young ages. The window and time frame for them to be great is very small and very narrow because there's so much competition if they're great at 14, 15 or 18 that's fine to me. That said I appreciate Katarina's kind words towards Yulia and her situation.
 
I’ll never get tired of seeing pics of her with her students from the academy.

https://pp.userapi.com/c846420/v846420486/3715/WA2-3baqOGY.jpg

She seems like she is going to be a very loving coach. Actually she already seems to show great pride in their achievements and is inspiring them :)

https://pp.userapi.com/c621702/v621702928/7ca6f/bmVHvwLtbiA.jpg

Awesome! Yulia is happy and healthy. Sweet.

The first picture kind of reminds me of Eteri hugging Zhenya ;)
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhDj6m2huzj/?hl=en&taken-by=academy_ilinykh_lipnitskaya (this is a set of 3 photos, see especially #3)

I was really pleased to see this statement accompanying the photos: academy_ilinykh_lipnitskaya One of the keys to successful work with children is to find contact, to inspire trust, to enthrall you. This is sometimes helped by such an almost intuitive device as to descend to the child from his adult "height" - to sit down so that visually become with him one height, and look into the eyes.
Do you see how our coaches do this?

I doubt they have studied child psychology, so it is particularly impressive to note that this idea is commonly advocated by child psychologists. Contrast this with insulting the children and then telling them the insult is really a joke, or encouraging them to starve themselves.

Many skaters are isolated from normal school experience and sometimes from their families, they have little time for friendships and diverse experiences. Often they are with the same coach for years. In these cases the coach is primarily responsible for a skater's mental and physical health. Coaches must be concerned with each skater as a person and with their general development. This concern is a vital part of the trust that academy_ilinykh_lipnitskaya mentions often in their posts. Should we be surprised that those who skate from the heart also teach from the heart? I salute Yulia and her colleagues, they will teach more and better through love.
 
http://dayonline.ru/public/wysiwyg/images/1(373).jpg
Yulia is making excellent progress in several important ways. She looks really good. Anorexia is a big challenge, my thanks to her for letting us know she is doing well. The challenge is especially difficult for Yulia. This excerpt is from an interview not so long ago:
Lipnitskaya has also been viciously criticized for her weight gain—aka going through puberty—since she competed in Sochi. She responded to rumors that she was pregnant on social media, writing:
“I am not pregnant, you are getting to me. Have a conscience. I can’t be 37kg all my life just to make everybody happy. I have been dieting enough already, (it’s) enough!”


https://deadspin.com/yulia-lipnitskaya-the-skating-darling-of-sochi-retire-1798520119
 
"Tver school of figure skating begins an experiment with the Academy of Champions Ilyins - Lipnitskaya"
"Now we are talking about long-term cooperation with the regional sports school of the Olympic reserve for ice sports named after Yuri Mikhailov."
https://tverisport.ru/news/tverskay...ent-s-akademiej-chempionov-ilinyh-lipnitskoj/

There is more about this cooperation on the Academy vk site https://m.vk.com/academy_ilinykh_lipnitskaya Most of the recent posts, beginning April 14, mention their collaboration.
 
One of the April 14th posts on Academy of Champions Ilyins - Lipnitskaya vk site is a tribute to Yulia. The dedication is as beautiful as the photos:
About her you do not need to write hundreds of times ..., dozens of words ..., what difficulties she went through and how strong, and how she inspired absolutely everyone, including the current champions.
One who has penetrated the hearts of millions does not need this. ❤
Everyone already knows that she is a true hero and a symbol of our sport.
And our modest woman never bothers about it.
She just brings joy and warmth. ☀ 😋
Small and beautiful
# BoginyaFigurnogoKataniya
https://m.vk.com/wall-161698488_341?z=photo-70359150_456247780/wall-161698488_341

Here is the full post including pictures: https://m.vk.com/feed?section=search&q=#БогиняФигурногоКатания
 
http://dayonline.ru/public/wysiwyg/images/1(373).jpg
Yulia is making excellent progress in several important ways. She looks really good. Anorexia is a big challenge, my thanks to her for letting us know she is doing well. The challenge is especially difficult for Yulia. This excerpt is from an interview not so long ago:
Lipnitskaya has also been viciously criticized for her weight gain—aka going through puberty—since she competed in Sochi. She responded to rumors that she was pregnant on social media, writing:
“I am not pregnant, you are getting to me. Have a conscience. I can’t be 37kg all my life just to make everybody happy. I have been dieting enough already, (it’s) enough!”


https://deadspin.com/yulia-lipnitskaya-the-skating-darling-of-sochi-retire-1798520119

Yulia said 37 kilos. Please tell me she did not compete at 80 pounds at 5'3" tall. That would be troublesome.

Adelina is an inch taller than Yulia. Any idea how much Sotnikova weighed when she competed in Sochi? My guess is 112 lbs.

Yulia looks healthy now. Happy too.
 
one who has penetrated the hearts of millions does not need this. ❤
everyone already knows that she is a true hero and a symbol of our sport.
And our modest woman never bothers about it.
She just brings joy and warmth. ☀ 😋

This :)
 
A few things I've always been curious about with Yulia...

1) Yulia obviously had a falling out with Eteri, but are there specific incidents and dynamics that led to this falling out?

2) Similarly, with regards to Yulia's anorexia, I've read comments suggesting that Eteri contributed to this, but is there actual proof of this? Like, there's a difference between a coach who makes sure her athletes are mindful of their weight, which does have an impact on skating, versus a coach who insists that her athletes target weight levels that are extreme and unhealthy.

3) How has Yulia's relationship with her mom evolved and what's its current status? I read somewhere that Yulia had a falling out with her mom at the same time as her falling out with Eteri - which suggests that both Eteri and Yulia's mom might have been contributing to some of her issues - but it also seems that Yulia's mom might have been supportive of her seeking treatment and her choice to retire?

4) Speaking of Yulia's mom, I read somewhere that she's at least partially of Jewish descent, and has close relatives who suffered the Holocaust. Is this true? If so, I wonder if it had any influence on Yulia's choice of her famous Schindler's List "Girl In The Red Coat" program? And perhaps also her decision to seek anorexia treatment in Israel? I know publicizing your Jewish roots has never exactly been a popular thing to do in Russia, sort of like Zhenya and her Armenian roots : ).

5) I also read somewhere that part of Yulia's falling out with Eteri and potentially also her mom involved her decision to move out from home and live with a boyfriend, who perhaps was based out of Sochi as opposed to Moscow. This was all apparently against their wishes. Is this true? It seems Yulia's now single or at least no longer with this boyfriend, though?

6) Speaking of, does Yulia reside these days in Sochi or Moscow? It seems the Academy is mostly based in Moscow, no? Though it also seems she still posts a decent number of photos from the Sochi area.

7) What's Yulia's relationship with the current crop of skaters, such as Zhenya, Alina, Sasha, Alena, Anna, etc.? Given the awkward dynamic she still has with their coach, is she friendly with any of them or, perhaps the opposite, has tension with them, perhaps in particular Zhenya, who sort of immediately followed her? Do any of them cite Yulia as an influence or inspiration? (BTW, the photo someone recently linked to of Yulia and Sabine Zagitova is ADORABLE. I don't know if she'll ever be a famous skater, but Little Zagitova is my favorite.)

8) What do people sense are Yulia's and Elena's longer-term intentions with Academy Ilinykh Lipnitskaya? Do they have goals of building a coaching organization that could eventually compete with the likes of Team Tutberidze? Or is this simply a one-off academy to train youth skaters?

Sorry for all the questions! There are clearly some super knowledgable people in this thread, though, so I hope to get their insights.
 
4) Speaking of Yulia's mom, I read somewhere that she's at least partially of Jewish descent, and has close relatives who suffered the Holocaust. Is this true? If so, I wonder if it had any influence on Yulia's choice of her famous Schindler's List "Girl In The Red Coat" program? And perhaps also her decision to seek anorexia treatment in Israel? I know publicizing your Jewish roots has never exactly been a popular thing to do in Russia, sort of like Zhenya and her Armenian roots : ).

I always got curious with her ethnicity, she does'nt loooks much slav, she looks more finno-ugric.
 
I always got curious with her ethnicity, she does'nt loooks much slav, she looks more finno-ugric.

I just dug up where I read this some while back...

Link
Quote: "It may not be coincidental that Yulia skated to music from Schindler's List. Her mother, Daniel Leonidovna, is reportedly from a Jewish family and lost relatives in the Holocaust."
 
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