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Medvedeva's leaving Tutberidze had me thinking a lot about Julia. Sorry if I'm terribly out of the loop, but has Julia ever spoken openly about why she decided to part ways with Eteri?
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Nope. In spite of Eteri and more so Ilya telling tales to the press she remained silent. Just went to Sochi and started training.
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Well, Julia seems to be an extraordinary person. In the translation I read of one of Brian Orser's new interviews about Medvedeva, he mentioned Julia saying that he hoped she would return to skating. She seems to be happy with where she's at in her career now though, and I'm so glad about that.
Yulia never said a word with Eteri's name attached, but she often indicted Eteri indirectly in interviews where the door was opened with a leading question. For example, from an interview after she went to Urmanov:
EV: I recall when we spoke in Budapest right after Europeans 2014 you hinted you didn't like figure skating, but endure it.
YL: That was the case in the Olympic season. After that, however.. I had a chance to get into a real life and understood I have no idea what is it. The things on the ice didn't work either. At some point I stopped understanding how should I live and what should I do. I didn't care about anything. Now I just try to enjoy it. The skating, meeting friends, the independence. I understand the real life only begins now. In sports as well. I don't endure figure skating, but understand I need it. Perhaps the coach and I will make it?
I also like the mood in the (urmanov's) group. I was never exposed to that before: I've been to several groups that were in an inner war so to say. It's an individual sport and we were competing all the time. Even when it seems as if the butterflies were flying above the ice. More than that: I realized figure skating was a very cruel world, which I had to get used to it. And then I switched to Urmanov... I thought they were hiding something at first.
The second paragraph is an obvious contrast between rinks which reveals Eteri's oppressive atmosphere (oppressive to Yulia who was there to express and compete) as a major reason she left. The interview has many such inferences without naming Eteri. http://www.sport-express.ru/se-velena/reviews/979675/ In this interview she talks about injuries (which ultimately led to her clinic treatment), getting back in touch with her soul ( which is of ultimate value for one whose purpose is to express helself), wanting to practice on weekends (before Urmanov she often talked about quitting and would have except skating was all she knew), etc. Read the interview from this once-removed perspective. All of the reasons for leaving are stated without using Eteri's name, but using Eteri-surrogate references. So why not name Eteri? She was a teenager and a very classy girl so one would expect subtlety and discretion, but attribution is obvious in these and many other statements. And they (Eteri and Averbukh--Averukh had a big hand in this in ways I have yet to fully appreciate) could be vicious.
Medvedeva is a very different personality. She bought in to the authoritarian method of Averbukh-Eteri.
She allowed them to suffocate her for medals and fame, a Faustian bargain. Yulia could not tolerate sacrificing artistic integrity, she fought tooth-and-nail against any attempt to interfere with her expressiveness.
Eteri's ultimate failure was that she didn't support Yulia. She tried initially after the dispute between Yulia and Averbukh over his FS music, but later she turned on Yulia who had invested everything in Eteri, trusted in her. In the above interview Yulia ends with this response, reflecting on why Urmanov is special: EV: And?
YL: And came to a conclusion I shouldn't even think about it (her relationship with Urmanov). I just have to cherish the relationship. It's a rare in our sports.
I mean, now that I think about it, she is young to be a coach just yet, but Im glad she is doing great now, didnt now what happen to her since the retirement, but this news make my day better
I can't think of a healthier, more rewarding way for her to invest herself. She has said many times, the only thing she knows is skating. Previously Yulia said she would never coach, but she and Elena are creating a method which excludes the negatives that were part of her experience as a skater. Think of them as anti-coaches. Elena helped Yulia see this potential, Elena is a most worthy friend. https://www.instagram.com/p/BipGTNfD952/?taken-by=academy_ilinykh_lipnitskaya
Lol, Sam is being way too polite (much like Yulia).
Please allow me to elaborate. :dev3:I guess nothing’s ever privy or sacred in skating these days, so why hold back. For all the times Eteri (and especially Ilya) played victim and dragged on Yulia and her mother through the media/press, Yulia has never returned the favor, not even once! I guess the silent treatment is Yulia's rebuttal to all the mudslinging that's become so common in russian skating after the end of a professional collaboration. I've said this before, but IMO Yulia's conducted herself with more class, dignity and professional courtesy than most people in this sport deserve.
As for recent events regarding Evgenia leaving Eteri, and her potentially working with Brian, Tracy, David, and anyone else. It's her life, her choice. Good luck and health to all parties involved. But I see Ilya #stillbitter Averbukh is still a tad touchy whenever a skater want to work with someone other than himself. *shock* *horror* For flutzsake Ilya, a little self awareness wouldn't hurt, your choreography has become so kitsch that even Marcel Marceau would tell you to tone it down 10 notches. And Eteri really should start practicing the art of "not divulging to the press private conversations and/or text messages I've had with my students before or after they leave me"....for her own sake, because tbh one day one of those students may return the favor and dish all the dirt on her. Because HolyMichelle and SaintSasha from on high, I can only imagine what both Yulia and Evgenia have witnessed over the years.
(Side note: Eteri, since you're in the mood, feel free to screencap and leak that letter Yulia allegedly wrote you after she said "bye and here's ya flowers" in the principle's office. We want to know the content! #TooLongToScreencap)
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Yeah, she's a natural.
In addition to all that's said above, she says nothing because she can't trust public media. She has refused every interview request since the retirement announcement last September. However, she often posts on social media, especially the academy IG and vk sites. So why the contradiction? Here is what she said in November after the Olympics, this is classic Yulia:
"Everything is in me. Just after the Olympic season, a lot of everything has fallen. No freedom. Whatever I say, everything is taken seriously and is taken to all places, where it is necessary and not necessary, and is actively discussed. Any photos are viewed under the magnifying glass, up to the button. Where, who, why, with whom ... Whatever you do, everything will be misunderstood and then have to be justified. This is not life, in complete stress!" This reminds me of a similar remark by a concert pianist, "In this profession, where there's so much pressure and so much being judged, it's amazing for someone to have a free spirit and rise above it." To paraphrase Sam, she rises above it by saying nothing, just goes to the clinic and coaches.
"Everything is in me. Just after the Olympic season, a lot of everything has fallen. No freedom. Whatever I say, everything is taken seriously and is taken to all places, where it is necessary and not necessary, and is actively discussed. Any photos are viewed under the magnifying glass, up to the button. Where, who, why, with whom ... Whatever you do, everything will be misunderstood and then have to be justified. This is not life, in complete stress!" This reminds me of a similar remark by a concert pianist, "In this profession, where there's so much pressure and so much being judged, it's amazing for someone to have a free spirit and rise above it." To paraphrase Sam, she rises above it by saying nothing, just goes to the clinic and coaches.
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Now the 13th most viewed video on the official Olympic YouTube channel with 9 million views. Next target: "Nadia Comaneci - First Perfect 10 | Montreal 1976 Olympics" with 9.4 million views.
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Unbelievable! It is history.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4c/11/a4/4c11a4645800f29293a797a01bb689a1.jpg
The “Mother” and the two “daughters”.
Many good and bad adjectives can describe this photo.
The “Mother” and the two “daughters”.
Many good and bad adjectives can describe this photo.
I find her coaching as touching and uplifting as her skating, for exactly the same reasons, what a pleasant surprise. The Olympics taught Yulia many things about "the real world" (her words), not the least being that so many envious people will go to any length to drag down greatness to their level of mediocrity. It's sad but important she learned this early on, it's comforting she has found a niche where she can flourish in peace.
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Only good for me. Its a great look at them both. Sorry things went awry for them. Yulia is in a good place but she is missed as a skater. Her talent charm and beauty are undeniable.
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Ughhhh...I was going to comment “Two Olympic champions in one photo!” but then I remembered, and now I am sad :sad21:....sometimes it does feel like it’s true though...
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Just curious, but I assume you mean Elena Radionova? Did she help suggest Yulia should be a coach?
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