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Yulia Lipnitskaya

Don't even start about rewatching with me... :laugh:
I downloaded all of her seasons in multi-language commentary from torrent and must say this stuff is strongly addictive! :eek:
 
I re-watched Julia's program for that flying spin. It is high enough for me, but it is so quickly done, you have to be quite focused to see it. If she only gets a level 2, that's quite harsh. ALL her spins are amazing! I even prefer Julia's I spin to Sasha Cohen. I love both skaters nevertheless.
 
You're right about mere mortals doing justice, maybe I shouldn't be so harsh with the judges. Great quote, thanks.
papa said:
Don't be blasphemous my friend. No mortal is fully capable of doing justice to Yulia's skating. ;)
That's why I prefer Eurosport guy with his "I think she could skate the program without the elements and it'd move to tears...". :biggrin:
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Sabrina said:
I re-watched Julia's program for that flying spin. It is high enough for me, but it is so quickly done, you have to be quite focused to see it. If she only gets a level 2, that's quite harsh. ALL her spins are amazing! I even prefer Julia's I spin to Sasha Cohen. I love both skaters nevertheless.
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I was reading a blog, very interesting one, and there was a section about the spins including the flying spins. It's not about Yulia, it's about another skater but there were different pictures and it is explained in details the bullets you should tick for the GoE's.
I think the flying spin is not yet there, to receive a +3. It's not just the height indeed, it's also about body position in the air, control, arm position etc.
Of course, hers is way better than somebody else, who received +2 for a horrible flying spin :rolleye:, but that's another discussion. ;)
 
sjid said:
You're right about mere mortals doing justice, maybe I shouldn't be so harsh with the judges. Great quote, thanks.
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What drives me to :bang: is when people don't understand and respect the uniqueness she brings to this sport. Sure...a Kurt Brownong step sequence is unlikely to ever come from her but we could easily say the reverse is true too....but we don't! I love how the commentators say things like she goes into a trance. You get all these people saying she doesn't connect with the audience and then they say she "panders" when she acts outwardly during her serious glances. Yet...the people they claim to be "real" skaters with "real" musicality pander the entire performance by making overly emotional turns and edges with dramatic faces just to portray an idea of emotion. Actually I respect so many styles of skating including slow subtle grace like a Sasha Cohen or Kurt. :bow: I just don't understand why some are so critical and unable to accept a new approach to skating. We have already had Kurt Browning,Michelle Kwan, Mao ,Caro , etc... Can't we also have some Yulia and not expect her to copy everyone else before her to get respect.

End rant and sorry...this has been building inside for a while. :slink:
 
Sam-Skwantch said:
What drives me to :bang: is when people don't understand and respect the uniqueness she brings to this sport. Sure...a Kurt Brownong step sequence is unlikely to ever come from her but we could easily say the reverse is true too....but we don't! I love how the commentators say things like she goes into a trance. You get all these people saying she doesn't connect with the audience and then they say she "panders" when she acts outwardly during her serious glances. Yet...the people they claim to be "real" skaters with "real" musicality pander the entire performance by making overly emotional turns and edges with dramatic faces just to portray an idea of emotion. Actually I respect so many styles of skating including slow subtle grace like a Sasha Cohen or Kurt. :bow: I just don't understand why some are so critical and unable to accept a new approach to skating. We have already had Kurt Browning,Michelle Kwan, Mao ,Caro , etc... Can't we also have some Yulia and not expect her to copy everyone else before her to get respect.

End rant and sorry...this has been building inside for a while. :slink:
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Don't be sorry. I so do agree with you about this. :thumbsup:
 
Sam-Skwantch said:
What drives me to :bang: is when people don't understand and respect the uniqueness she brings to this sport. Sure...a Kurt Brownong step sequence is unlikely to ever come from her but we could easily say the reverse is true too....but we don't! I love how the commentators say things like she goes into a trance. You get all these people saying she doesn't connect with the audience and then they say she "panders" when she acts outwardly during her serious glances. Yet...the people they claim to be "real" skaters with "real" musicality pander the entire performance by making overly emotional turns and edges with dramatic faces just to portray an idea of emotion. Actually I respect so many styles of skating including slow subtle grace like a Sasha Cohen or Kurt. :bow: I just don't understand why some are so critical and unable to accept a new approach to skating. We have already had Kurt Browning,Michelle Kwan, Mao ,Caro , etc... Can't we also have some Yulia and not expect her to copy everyone else before her to get respect.

End rant and sorry...this has been building inside for a while. :slink:
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Haters gonna hate for sure. Had Yulia been American, I am sure there would be movies about her already. You know, it's Hollywood. :laugh:
 
Meoima said:
Haters gonna hate for sure. Had Yulia been American, I am sure there would be movies about her already. You know, it's Hollywood. :laugh:
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Yulia is definitely lacking of American style. No gangsta gestures or "hot" poses in her instagram photos, she is rarely "pretty excited" because of "next step in her career" in interviews and she posts poems on her internet page. Poems! :disapp:
Booooring! :p
 
Sam-Skwantch said:
What drives me to :bang: is when people don't understand and respect the uniqueness she brings to this sport. Sure...a Kurt Brownong step sequence is unlikely to ever come from her but we could easily say the reverse is true too....but we don't! I love how the commentators say things like she goes into a trance. You get all these people saying she doesn't connect with the audience and then they say she "panders" when she acts outwardly during her serious glances. Yet...the people they claim to be "real" skaters with "real" musicality pander the entire performance by making overly emotional turns and edges with dramatic faces just to portray an idea of emotion. Actually I respect so many styles of skating including slow subtle grace like a Sasha Cohen or Kurt. :bow: I just don't understand why some are so critical and unable to accept a new approach to skating. We have already had Kurt Browning,Michelle Kwan, Mao ,Caro , etc... Can't we also have some Yulia and not expect her to copy everyone else before her to get respect.

End rant and sorry...this has been building inside for a while. :slink:[/QUOTE

Thanks for saying these things. I think part of the problem is that her uniqueness is multifaceted and never superficial. Most of us are one trick ponies who don't understand much outside our blinders. For most great skaters music is a background for exhibitions of skating skill. Yulia integrates music and movement with great sensitivity and determination. She has somehow developed techniques of professional dancers without training in dance. It must be natural for her, it must come from inside. But such refinement can be invisible if we aren't connected to what she is doing. My take on this is that her detractors just can't see what you do. They don't have the background or sensitivity, they don't get it. As I have mentioned before, she has a lot at stake because all is from her heart. She could have been a very lonely person, but she is fortunate to have had the comfort of family and coaches who understand her, and now hundreds of thousands of us common folk with whom she connects like a force of nature. Maybe the rest will eventually come around.
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As I have mentioned before, she has a lot at stake because all is from her heart
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That's pretty deep. I love the insight here. This phrase is thrown around so casually that I must say it's nice to see it hold actual meaning for a change :yes:
 
Sam, all you've written is 100% truth.
I just don't want to reply to it, because discussing topics like "she doesn't have hips, it's unfair" or "she's lacking artistry" makes me very annoyed. :bang:
Truth is, 90% of people beyond those nonsences are scared to death by Yulia's supremacy over their beloved skaters. They are in panic, so they invent the most ridiculous arguments against her. I learned to laugh out silently at them and patiently wait for Yulia to spank their faves in competition.

Remember, that we're Lipniata, we're above this, we're cool, collected and classy - just like Yulia! :agree:
 
Does anybody know where I can find the link to the video, where they had all the figure skating medalists in some kind of TV show? There were Ilinykh/Katsalapov, Volozoshar/Trankov and Adelina Sotnikova and some others... they invited some parents and showed some childhood videos and so on...

Anyway, Yulia wasn't there, since she didn't medal in the individual and while they were celebrating Adelina's win, they brought out some little girl and, I don't speak a word of Russian(a fact that I HATE by now :( ), but I think they asked her who she wants to be like when she grows up, and immediately she said:
"Yulia Lipnitskaya!"
Eventhough Yulia wasn't even invited or mentioned to her and she, of course, was supposed to say Adelina :D
Of course a bit of an awkward situation, but so cool for Yulia fan!
Does anybody know which video I'm talking about?
And well said to the posts above me :clap:
 
The thing about Yulia haters these people are a very small minority. Its mainly people that have a combination of unhealthy hate of Russia and try hard to talk down Yulia to try to hype up others.
 
starlight97 said:
Does anybody know where I can find the link to the video, where they had all the figure skating medalists in some kind of TV show? There were Ilinykh/Katsalapov, Volozoshar/Trankov and Adelina Sotnikova and some others... they invited some parents and showed some childhood videos and so on...

Anyway, Yulia wasn't there, since she didn't medal in the individual and while they were celebrating Adelina's win, they brought out some little girl and, I don't speak a word of Russian(a fact that I HATE by now :( ), but I think they asked her who she wants to be like when she grows up, and immediately she said:
"Yulia Lipnitskaya!"
Eventhough Yulia wasn't even invited or mentioned to her and she, of course, was supposed to say Adelina :D
Of course a bit of an awkward situation, but so cool for Yulia fan!
Does anybody know which video I'm talking about?
And well said to the posts above me :clap:
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Here's the video with that little girl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb66WRizGq8
The part about Adelina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkHfDSApUgA
Couldn't find the whole show :unsure:
 
papa said:
Interview with Yulia in Embassy of Japan in Russia journal - Acrobat Reader format (pdf):
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My fave part is:
Q: What do you know about Japan? Maybe you have favorite writer, movie or anime.
A: No, I don't really love anime, but I like when people draw me in anime style, it's cool. For some purpose they often make pictures of me with Yuzuru.

:rofl:



I'm not sure if link was posted here before... Interview with english subs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHsfmNAn4dY
 
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