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Yulia Lipnitskaya

alebi said:
Which is her jumps' plan in the SP? It seems it's the usual 3Lz+3T and in the second half 2A and 3F. Isn't it risky? We already know that Yulia struggles with 3F and she often gets edge call, why don't try 3F and in the second half 3Lz+3T and 2A? It would be interesting to count the points' difference between these two layouts, adding an edge on 3F and assuming her combo is perfect :think: (I also think that a 3F as the first jump can be executed with more attention so maybe she can avoid the call)
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I see get your point and I've had similar ideas, but
I personally hope she sticks to this layout since it worked very well for her.
In the entire last season, meaning out of 7 competitions she attended, she made a serious mistake in her SP once.
And while I agree that it could be interesting to put the combo in the second half regarding points, I don't think having the 3F as the first jump would mend the edge problems.
Yuna Kim has a dreamy clean lutz, and she has that right in the beginnen at her opening combo and just as much when she repeats the Lutz near the end of the programm. Same goes for Elizaveta f.e.
And skaters who tend to go in with the wrong edge, tend to do that no matter at which point the jump is done IMO.

Also it might be a little straining for the mind to think for 80% of the program "Aaah, still have to land that difficult combo at the end". Also the legs are tired by then. That's why she usually tried to put the 3T behind the first Axel in her LP last season and only if that wasn't possible she'd put it after the second one which was later in the program.
 
starlight97 said:
I see get your point and I've had similar ideas, but
I personally hope she sticks to this layout since it worked very well for her.
In the entire last season, meaning out of 7 competitions she attended, she made a serious mistake in her SP once.
And while I agree that it could be interesting to put the combo in the second half regarding points, I don't think having the 3F as the first jump would mend the edge problems.
Yuna Kim has a dreamy clean lutz, and she has that right in the beginnen at her opening combo and just as much when she repeats the Lutz near the end of the programm. Same goes for Elizaveta f.e.
And skaters who tend to go in with the wrong edge, tend to do that no matter at which point the jump is done IMO.

Also it might be a little straining for the mind to think for 80% of the program "Aaah, still have to land that difficult combo at the end". Also the legs are tired by then. That's why she usually tried to put the 3T behind the first Axel in her LP last season and only if that wasn't possible she'd put it after the second one which was later in the program.
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I share your opinion, a combo in the final part is very risky and I'm careful about saying this, but Yulia has been more consistent whit the combo while the edge call, if the tech panel is strict and not consider the edge "flat", is pretty evident. The real problem is that this year the edge call can "destroy" your performance. Suppose that you do a 3F with a hand down and an edge call, the second part bonus can "save" you? To be honest there are very few skaters with perfect Flip and Lutz and, excluding Tuktamisheva, no one is a real contender for Yulia (I don't remember if Gold and Edmunds are good on both). It's interesting to see if she'll follow this layout till the end or the first competitions will give her staff clues about what is better to do :)
 
I have seen Eteri's girls putting all the jumps in the second half of the program in the junior circle, I wonder why she hasn't applied it to Yulia?
 
Newbiespectator said:
I did some quick pencil sketches of Julia today. Her eyes are just soooo mesmerizing.
http://fav.me/d831216 :love:
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These are great!!! Wow. You can share them on her VK Fanpage here: https://m.vk.com/julia_lipnitskaya

Since she is a moderator at that page there is a good chance she'll see it. Her personal VK page is loaded with fan art...she really really likes it.

BTW....I looked thru some of your other pieces at Deviant Art. You are really talented. Thank you for sharing with us.
 
starlight97 said:
I see get your point and I've had similar ideas, but
I personally hope she sticks to this layout since it worked very well for her.
In the entire last season, meaning out of 7 competitions she attended, she made a serious mistake in her SP once.
And while I agree that it could be interesting to put the combo in the second half regarding points, I don't think having the 3F as the first jump would mend the edge problems.
Yuna Kim has a dreamy clean lutz, and she has that right in the beginnen at her opening combo and just as much when she repeats the Lutz near the end of the programm. Same goes for Elizaveta f.e.
And skaters who tend to go in with the wrong edge, tend to do that no matter at which point the jump is done IMO.

Also it might be a little straining for the mind to think for 80% of the program "Aaah, still have to land that difficult combo at the end". Also the legs are tired by then. That's why she usually tried to put the 3T behind the first Axel in her LP last season and only if that wasn't possible she'd put it after the second one which was later in the program.
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I agree with everything you said but wanted to add one thing. In her first year (Senior) all the jumps were before the halfway mark, this past year the flip was after the halfway point, now her Axel and flip are after the halfway mark. Maybe they're playing a long game towards putting the combination in the second half, too, but doing it slowly to make sure nothing else suffers when they add that in.
 
alebi said:
I share your opinion, a combo in the final part is very risky and I'm careful about saying this, but Yulia has been more consistent whit the combo while the edge call, if the tech panel is strict and not consider the edge "flat", is pretty evident. The real problem is that this year the edge call can "destroy" your performance. Suppose that you do a 3F with a hand down and an edge call, the second part bonus can "save" you? To be honest there are very few skaters with perfect Flip and Lutz and, excluding Tuktamisheva, no one is a real contender for Yulia (I don't remember if Gold and Edmunds are good on both). It's interesting to see if she'll follow this layout till the end or the first competitions will give her staff clues about what is better to do :)
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Everyone generally agrees that Yulia's edge is more unclear than a egregious flutz so she'll likely get ! and still retains the full BV just with slightly more -GOE, rather that the e call where she drop the BV plus - GOE. So if she still skate similarly to last year or even better she'll most likely get similar marks between 67-71 which should be more than enough to keep her competitive even with her fellow true-Lutz Russians.
 
Isabel_O'Reilly said:
I agree with everything you said but wanted to add one thing. In her first year (Senior) all the jumps were before the halfway mark, this past year the flip was after the halfway point, now her Axel and flip are after the halfway mark. Maybe they're playing a long game towards putting the combination in the second half, too, but doing it slowly to make sure nothing else suffers when they add that in.
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That's a really interesting observation!

Newbiespectator said:
I did some quick pencil sketches of Julia today. Her eyes are just soooo mesmerizing.
http://fav.me/d831216
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Your sketches are enchanting too!! WOW!!!! You're great :love:
 
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