Yuna Kim

[chopinskate]

I just don't agree with those Giselle GIFs' captions!

But then, we can contort whatever we want so it can fit our perspective. I just don't think of Yuna delivering nothing but artistic masterpieces. Nice choreography, though, agreeing with Izabela on that.

8th GIF down, nice attempt at fourth position turnout though, I think.

 

[Izabela]

I just don't agree with those Giselle GIFs' captions!

But then, we can contort whatever we want so it can fit our perspective. I just don't think of Yuna delivering nothing but artistic masterpieces. Nice choreography, though, agreeing with Izabela on that.

8th GIF down, nice attempt at fourth position turnout though, I think.

You always have to do that and point out what's wrong. I agree though, only the frantic part is apparent in her interpretation of Giselle.

Hey, she even adjusted it to make it more outward. And people keep saying she doesn't even try!

 

[chopinskate]

You always have to do that and point out what's wrong. I agree though, only the frantic part is apparent in her interpretation of Giselle.

I mean, if we pretend everything's profound, eventually nothing will be.

She does try! She even got better at extending her legs in her spirals! And better edging, too, in 2014, with her footwork.

 

[Izabela]

She really was pushed in 2014 though with AN, so we got Nessum Dorma with her superb skating skills. I think I love Nessum Dorma the most mainly because of that

 

[rikaquegira]

I just don't agree with those Giselle GIFs' captions!

But then, we can contort whatever we want so it can fit our perspective. I just don't think of Yuna delivering nothing but artistic masterpieces. Nice choreography, though, agreeing with Izabela on that.

8th GIF down, nice attempt at fourth position turnout though, I think.

That tumblr is mine, I created it a few weeks ago I think.
And I did tried fitting the choreographic movements to the story just to sort of illustrate it. I agree with @Izabela that Yuna’s Giselle covers basically just the part she goes mad and dies, which I don’t mind, it was great choreography and great interpretation!
2011 Yuna programs are some of my favorites, so much emotion!

 

[chopinskate]

That tumblr is mine, I created it a few weeks ago I think.
And I did tried fitting the choreographic movements to the story just to sort of illustrate it. I agree with @Izabela that Yuna’s Giselle covers basically just the part she goes mad and dies, which I don’t mind, it was great choreography and great interpretation!
2011 Yuna programs are some of my favorites, so much emotion!

Oh! :O Sorry, I didn't know. That makes more sense to me, but yeah, I thought it was kind of weird someone would make her program look like the entire ballet when it was just one act (especially because there was a discussion here about how it was indeed the entire ballet!). I love her 2011 programs, but she could have just done a little more in her SP at times. But it was such a contrast from what she did before that, more mature, better choreography than any of her SPs after 2007W (the lack of spirals helps my perception of it).

 

[rikaquegira]

Yu-Na Kim

Oh! :O Sorry, I didn't know. That makes more sense to me, but yeah, I thought it was kind of weird someone would make her program look like the entire ballet when it was just one act (especially because there was a discussion here about how it was indeed the entire ballet!). I love her 2011 programs, but she could have just done a little more in her SP at times. But it was such a contrast from what she did before that, more mature, better choreography than any of her SPs after 2007W (the lack of spirals helps my perception of it).

Hey, no need to apologise at all!

Wait, when you say it was just one act you mean the entire first act of the ballet? Because that’s exactly what I’ve captioned. It ends with her dying, on the tumblr post.
But the ballet has a second act where there’s a whole supernatural kind of thing going on with vengeful evil dead women making the guy dance till death and Giselle wanting to forgive him and etc etc. In the end she goes back to being dead dead and can rest in peace.
So, what I tried to illustrate was just the act one not act one and act two which make for the whole ballet.
What I believe Yuna shows the most in the program is one part of act one(when she finds out his true identity and goes mad and dances and dies). Which I consider a smart move because it’s kind of a long story to try and fit in a few minutes. And that part is so dramatic and emotional, I think it was the best.

But anyway, I’m not even sure I understood your comment. I think I misunderstood. Are you saying “it was indeed the entire ballet”? What are you saying? I’m confused, sorry! [emoji23]

 

[chopinskate]

Whoops, maybe I'm confused. The way I used act is simply the "mad scene", and probably people were discussing the entire act here, instead.

She just did the mad scene, not the entire act/ballet.

 

[rikaquegira]

Whoops, maybe I'm confused. The way I used act is simply the "mad scene", and probably people were discussing the entire act here, instead.

She just did the mad scene, not the entire act/ballet.

Oh! Got it!
Then we agree!

 

[Izabela]

Oh no, when I discuss Giselle I also only meant the Mad scene, not the entire Act (so we all are in the same page here!). Although I think I understand why it can be construed to be the entire act. Since IMO Yuna had to demonstrate (in the earlier part of it), that Giselle has a weak heart (see how her first movement is about "protecting her heart" https://youtu.be/c-ypilxY3k4?t=12 in my humble interpretation of what she's doing there). Also kinda explain her last pose since she went "mad" to the point that her weak heart couldn't take it. I believe that she was in a "collapse" position there; I would love it more if she indeed went down on ice. But I also think doing that would be toooo conspicuous.

Again, it was really a nice choreography. Haha, and you should do more gifs! I actually visit the Yuna Kim tag on tumblr every once in a while, despite all those hot takes over that fs confession blog

 

[EyesOfLove]

You always have to do that and point out what's wrong. I agree though, only the frantic part is apparent in her interpretation of Giselle.

Hey, she even adjusted it to make it more outward. And people keep saying she doesn't even try!

And she did try, as in
https://youtu.be/EnLwRcVFjkI?t=3m17s where she shows a pretty decent turn out towards the end of the layback. I really wish she had tried more like these to improve her lines even more, seeing how Kostner, whose flexibility was not any better than Kim's, was able to make her positions look somehow more aesthetically pleasing by pointing and stretching her feet.

 

[Izabela]

And she did try, as in
https://youtu.be/EnLwRcVFjkI?t=3m17s where she shows a pretty decent turn out towards the end of the layback. I really wish she had tried more like these to improve her lines even more, seeing how Kostner, whose flexibility was not any better than Kim's, was able to make her positions look somehow more aesthetically pleasing by pointing and stretching her feet.

I thought Yuna makes a rather decent lines throughout her career, they may not be the perfect balletic lines or Carolina level, but they weren’t also distracting. Her arabesque is the only glaring one for me that she could have improve more. I’m actually glad that she didn’t obsess herself on making her lines more aesthetically pleasing, since it’s really not mandatory for dancers to have perfect lines anyways

But yeah, I love that part in Meditation too. My most watched Yuna exhibition (although not my most favorite haha).

 

[chopinskate]

It's in her EXs where it really shows just how much CoP really stunts artistic growth. She isn't able to express as much depth as she could here. I've always felt something off with that program.

 

[Izabela]

It's in her EXs where it really shows just how much CoP really stunts artistic growth. She isn't able to express as much depth as she could here. I've always felt something off with that program.

Off in which program?

If we’re talking about how CoP limits artistry, it shows the most in her Nessum Dorma. Skating in complete abandonment is IMO the appropriate description of how she performed.

 

[chopinskate]

Off in Meditation.

She grew over her hiatus, and it showed the most in Les Mis. Nessun Dorma could have had more interesting moments, but I don't care, I love it.

 

[Izabela]

Off in Meditation.

She grew over her hiatus, and it showed the most in Les Mis. Nessun Dorma could have had more interesting moments, but I don't care, I love it.

The thing about Meditation is, and this is difficult for me say in words, are those little moments when she takes time to highlight the long notes of the music (https://youtu.be/EnLwRcVFjkI?t=85 and https://youtu.be/EnLwRcVFjkI?t=152 and https://youtu.be/EnLwRcVFjkI?t=172). There's something cathartic in those moments! Maybe cathartic is not the word but it gives me off the same feeling as in SiTC with that simple gesture she made that became the highlight of the entire program. I love this exhibition to pieces.

Hey, in Nessum Dorma, she also showed different spin variation!

 

[chopinskate]

She didn't express zero depth, but yeah. I've read that Roxanne was conceived for 6.0 and tweaked for CoP. So maybe that's the sweet spot for development. But moments like those impress me most, and what I do look for. Growth will come.

 

[Izabela]

She didn't express zero depth, but yeah. I've read that Roxanne was conceived for 6.0 and tweaked for CoP. So maybe that's the sweet spot for development. But moments like those impress me most, and what I do look for. Growth will come.

I didn't know that! Interesting. Perhaps the "sweet spot" for development during the transition from 6.0 and COP is that 6.0 emphasizes not on how difficult your elements are, but the totality of the program. So I think choreographers who were in the 6.0 mindset still approach their choreography in terms of totality even when they also have to think about the elements.

 

[chopinskate]

Well I should say read here in GS, not in some article, so IDK the accuracy. Yeah, the totality-elements makes sense.

 

[Izabela]

Even though, that's still interesting. Some also point out that her Les Miserables feels complete because it's like a 6.0 program.