For a man injured, i think he starts too soon
. why don't delete at least the two first show .
A high lack of serious.
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2013-14 Season
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. why don't delete at least the two first show .
A high lack of serious.
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I saw someone mention on tumblr that he has to start making money off of these shows. Considering how much it probably costs for him to live and train in Canada.
Still, it irks me that he's not even resting for a full week before heading off to ice shows. I know they're supposed to be fun but a show is a show and from my experience any sort of show will be somewhat stressful and taxing.
I don't think delete two show will make a difference for his revenues especially with the gains that he earned during the world championship and olympics.
I'm mainly worried for his injury because after performing the program, he shows a silly face that means he has hard time. That is why i really want to know what TV japanese say about the injury.
I'm mainly worried for his injury because after performing the program, he shows a silly face that means he has hard time. That is why i really want to know what TV japanese say about the injury.
I'm worried Yuzuru will only last 2 more years in peak condition at this rate
The last triple crown was Yagudin, whose amateur career ended soon after due to injury (and also congenital hip disorder)
Somehow both of them seem "delicate" even though they have different styles
Still, with Plushy as his idol, Yuzuru will probably force his way to the next Olympics
Of course Yuzu need to make money to afford his costly skating life expenses. But it reminds me his generous donation of Olympic bonus ($ 6 million yen) to the Sandai Ice Rink for training purpose.
I’ve read a Japanese article that Yuzu’s father mentioned “such donation was made by Yuzu himself rather then the parents. But thinking about how much supports and encouragement from local people, Yuzu should give something in return to them.”
What a grateful family!
I’ve read a Japanese article that Yuzu’s father mentioned “such donation was made by Yuzu himself rather then the parents. But thinking about how much supports and encouragement from local people, Yuzu should give something in return to them.”
What a grateful family!
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I think the JSF subsidizes to some extent (I'm not sure exactly to what extent) Yuzuru's training in Canada; after all it was the JSF who initiated the move. But I'm sure Yuzuru and his family also incur considerable expenses for his skating. I don't know whether Yuzuru is now getting major endorsement deals like Mao (besides ANA and P & G) to help with that.
The thing that worries me, and Nobunari Oda has recently spoken about this, is that Yuzuru as is his wont goes all-out in his exhibitions to give fans their money's worth. Just look at his 2014 Worlds where instead of just the last step sequence, he also did the middle part of his R&J1 program with that triple axel-triple toe combination. (Of course I am not complaining because he again moved me to tears with that performance.) I hope the doctor who was always with him during competitions is also there during his exhibitions.
The thing that worries me, and Nobunari Oda has recently spoken about this, is that Yuzuru as is his wont goes all-out in his exhibitions to give fans their money's worth. Just look at his 2014 Worlds where instead of just the last step sequence, he also did the middle part of his R&J1 program with that triple axel-triple toe combination. (Of course I am not complaining because he again moved me to tears with that performance.) I hope the doctor who was always with him during competitions is also there during his exhibitions.
I think it's the "extra" exhibition stuff we should worry about - the "super sequences" etc.
At this World's gala he fell attempting his 4T + 3A + 3A super sequence... and he also fell and hit the barriers, when he and those other "naughty boys" (Fernandez and Balde) attempted simultaneous quads together...
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That part wasn't broadcasted on the live stream.
Why nobody stopped him? He is injured. He has just finished a LONG season, and he has lots of ice shows within 2-3 days, how will he be able to survive all this? JFS is making lots of money from him and his teammates, but they must know that the skaters are only human, no matter how hard they try.
And the public does no help either. I bet they demand to see him perform more than enough. 
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around 8:40
(asked about his injury) "It's not an exaggerated injury, but my body had worked hard all through this season, so I'm thankful to my body for making me skate until the end (of this season)."
This is all what Yuzuru said about his injury, and other parts are only the narration with speculation
We don't know how bad his injury is...hope we'll have more information.
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^Thanks yude. We fans just naturally worry about Yuzuru since he doesn't water down his exhibition numbers and apparently enjoys those testosterone driven quad battles, but I am pretty sure his family and coaches will also tell him if they feel he is over extending himself. I expect he will be rapturously received in all those ice shows as skating's champion of champions.
The fact that he keeps talking about new quads(and 4A) bothers me. Not just may such practice be traumatic, but also it seems he is still obsessed with jumps only. I know he gets extremely high PCS, however, I think the judges send him a wrong message(I don't really get it, especially interpretation/choreo components for his FS. Is it some sort of encouragement due to his technical superiority or what/am I blind?). I do want to see his programs outstanding both technically and choreographically, to my mind, he lacks the last. His moves frequently look messy. Despite that, I find him physically gifted as a dancer as well - his arms, body have plasticity and grace per se.There's a full translation of that interview here:
Tumblr may be going crazy over him, but it's still a great resource
I wonder what is an attitide of his coach. Is there any recent interview with Orser concerning Yuzuru?
(i'm sorry for any grammar etc. mistakes, as you must have noticed, English is not my mother tongue :-} )
many thanks for all translations!
Actually Yuzuru seems to have a very good controll on his body , I hope this is true.
Based on his words it seems also Yuzu's Quad philosophy (hard) training hasn't changed much since Sendai practice, except for the fact that now he is supposed to train 5 different types of quad instead of (only) two .
I would really like to watch him training!
Actually Yuzuru seems to have a very good controll on his body , I hope this is true.
Based on his words it seems also Yuzu's Quad philosophy (hard) training hasn't changed much since Sendai practice, except for the fact that now he is supposed to train 5 different types of quad instead of (only) two .
I would really like to watch him training!
Regarding new quads and especially 4A, I don't think he's pushing unrealistically hard.
He said in one interview, that although he has landed 4A a couple of times, and plans to attempt it in competition in the future... it's unlikely it will be during the next season.
I take this to mean it will be well over a year before he even thinks about trying 4A in competition. It doesn't sound like he's rushing into it. My guess would be, he'll keep working on the 4A etc... but mostly aim for consistency with his 4S.
I also have confidence in Orser, to keep things "realistic", and make sure Hanyu trains safely. (Well, as safe as anything can be, given these athletes tear round an ice rink on blades, trying new things...!)
He said in one interview, that although he has landed 4A a couple of times, and plans to attempt it in competition in the future... it's unlikely it will be during the next season.
I take this to mean it will be well over a year before he even thinks about trying 4A in competition. It doesn't sound like he's rushing into it. My guess would be, he'll keep working on the 4A etc... but mostly aim for consistency with his 4S.
I also have confidence in Orser, to keep things "realistic", and make sure Hanyu trains safely. (Well, as safe as anything can be, given these athletes tear round an ice rink on blades, trying new things...!)
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Hi Yay! (it rhymes
). This article was before Sochi but gives you a pretty good idea of the philosophy behind Brian Orser's training of Yuzuru. http://www.thestar.com/sports/sochi...strategy_for_yuzuru_hanyu_at_sochi_games.htmlYour English is fine.
Strange, for me, his moves don't look messy, on the contrary, i'm fascinated by his glide and i was sure that choreographically, there are no words to say. and technically too, despite his first quad.
But i'm more worried concerning his lack of power, to cover the distance. He is skinny, despite it's beautiful to see, he needs to develop his muscles.
Look Chan, Mashida or Fernandez, I feel a strenght, a power from them but they don't have any grace like Yuzuru.
The goal is to strike a happy medium between the power and the grace and Yuzuru has almost reached it
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Same here:agree:
I trust mr. Orser and I also trust Yuzu. He's mature enough to know what he can do right now and what he shouldn't try.
However, I worry about his busy schedule. He needs a holiday and not only because of being tired and injured, but also because of all the stress and pressure he put up with the whole season.
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I think the PCS are ok, but surely I’m subjective. (yeah, there’s a big difference between his PCS before and after the GPF). However, I see during the performances that he concentrates a lot on the jumps and the interpretation may sometimes suffer from this. (PW was an exception. His interpretation and his transitions looked very good there and the focus wasn’t on the jumps, but on the whole package)
The kid is very graceful. In ‘White legend’ he is a better swan than most of the ladies.
Maybe the problem is with the choreography. I liked R&J 2 very much, but I must admit the kid didn’t really live the program. He lived the performances. At the GPF, at Sochi and most of all at the worlds, all the emotions came from his fighting attitude, not from the program’s idea itself. I could feel that he has his own battle, not with Patrick or Machida, but with his limits. It looked great, but he wasn’t Romeo (or Juliet). (Sorry for my English, the idea sounded very clear in my mind, but I don’t like how I put it into words).I like mr. Orser very much and I’m not among those who hope the kid will go back to Nanami as soon as possible. Brian seems very protective and I think he helped Yuzu a lot. I don’t know if he could become the Olympic gold medalist without him. Anyway, my point of view. The problem is that I guess David Wilson’s choreography is like a must if he stays with Brian. I would like to see Yuzu with a program by Lori Nichol. She knows how to highlight a skater’s native talent. Let’s take Patrick as an example. I’m not a big fan of his performances and he sometimes looks too cold for my taste. His graceful moves don’t look natural. However, his Phantasia program by Lori Nichol is amazing. At least the performance from the nationals 2011 left me speechless because of the choreography.
I also thought about Lambiel as a choreographer for Yuzu. The two “The artist” programs for Denis in 2013 were one of the best I've ever seen.
That part wasn't broadcasted on the live stream.
Why nobody stopped him? He is injured. He has just finished a LONG season, and he has lots of ice shows within 2-3 days, how will he be able to survive all this? JFS is making lots of money from him and his teammates, but they must know that the skaters are only human, no matter how hard they try.
You can see the scene from around 03:02 in this video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1kv2kx_140331-sp-news_sport
After all, our boy just loves skating
hwell:The fact is, it is our joy and worry at the same time.
I really hope Orser will control him in various ways.
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My guess is exactly the same, based on the comments from Yuzuru. He seems to keep talking about quads but actually he just answered the questions from the media which keeps asking about it IMO. I think he is considering to improve his expression side, not only his jumps. Looking forward to seeing his new programs :yay:
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