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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season
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You're not alone. Looks like Kovtun really likes SEIMEI as well, "very cool Japanese style"
The list that Alia posted is the one aknowledged as 'official' in terms of which competitions are taken into account or not.
The lists normally just include ISU sanctioned competitions, the GPs, 4CC, Euros, Worlds, Olympics, and WTT. And Autumn Classic is not one of those, it's not even a part of the Challenger series anymore. Or if so, there would be many many competitions that should be included. But for matters of records and official lists, they are not included.
Unless you really have taken every single competition ever done into account, in which case a take my hat off to the impressive work
So Yuzu will be skating last at the SP in SC?
First of all, please note that the data in my lists do not conflict with the data in Alia's official lists. That is, the information for the top five short program scores, top five free skating scores and top 10 total scores are the same in my lists and Alia's lists.
I gather from the subsequent discussions that the ISU recognizes the following competitions for the purposes of personal best scores and high scores: Grand Prix series, 4CC, European Championships, World Championships, Olympics, World Team Trophy and the Challenger series.
The only reason I included Yuzuru's scores in the 2015 Autumn Classic International and Shoma Uno's score in the 2015 Japan Open was for purposes of comparison.
I started my database by inputting all of the scores of all skaters in the competitions in which Yuzuru participated since turning senior in 2010. I then added all the scores of all the skaters in the 2010 Olympics as well as all of the competitions in the Grand Prix series from 2010 to the present. I followed that by adding all of the scores of all of the skaters in the Nebelhorn Trophy and Finlandia Trophy from 2010 to the present. I then checked the scores in all of the 4CC competitions, European Championships and Challenger series from 2010 to the present and added scores over 90 points in the SP, over 170 points in the FS, and over 250 points in the total score to my database. I also checked pre-2010 officially recognized competitions and did the same thing. Double checking these scores resulted in the addition of a couple of more record entries in my lists. I obviously have way too much time on my hands since retiring!
Only 10 scores are over 280 points in the category of total points. Of these, only two scores are over 290 points. Patrick Chan's FS record of 295.27 (2013 TEB) followed by Yuzuru's score of 293.25 (2013 GPF). Of the top 10 scores for total points, Yuzuru holds five of them.
Only 16 scores are over 180 points in the free skate category. Of these, only seven scores are over 190 points. Yuzuru owns four of those scores over 190 points.
There are now 38 (official) scores over 90 points in the short program category. Of course, there is only one score over 100 (101.45) owned by Yuzuru. Of the 38 official scores over 90, Yuzuru holds nine of them, mostly on the upper end of the scale.
Finally, the point of my post was simply to say that Yuzuru's scores in the Autumn Classic International were relatively high considering that it was his first competition. Whether his scores are officially recognized or not, I wanted to put them in perspective with established recognized high scores.
The "official" scores on the ISU site are strange. The only one that appears to make sense is the "Highest Total Scores" over 150 found at:
http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/o100mto.htm
This list is not perfect because it fails to list Yuzuru's total score of 265.59 that he achieved at the 2013 Finlandia Trophy. It should be number 26 on the ISU list right after Patrick Chan's 2012 WC total score. I cannot think of any reason why Yuzuru's 2013 Finlandia Trophy total score should not be included in that list. I have not checked the entire list so I do not know whether there are any other missing entries.
These are my lists of top 10 total scores, top 16 free skate scores and top 38 short program scores:
Top 10 (280+) Total Scores Men – October 23, 2015
01 Patrick Chan (Canada) 295.27 (SP 98.52; FS 196.75) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 293.25 (SP 99.84; FS 193.41) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
03 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 289.46 (SP 97.61; FS 191.85) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
04 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 288.58 (SP 96.27; FS 192.31) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
05 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 288.16 (SP 94.08; FS 194.08) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
06 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 282.59 (SP 91.24; FS 191.35) 2014 WC (Saitama)
07 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 282.26 (SP 98.21; FS 184.05) 2014 WC (Saitama)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 280.98 (SP 93.02; FS 187.96) 2011 WC (Moscow)
09 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 280.09 (SP 101.45; FS 178.68) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
10 Patrick Chan (Canada) 280.08 (SP 87.47; FS 192.61) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
Top 16 Free Skate Scores (180+) Men – October 23, 2015
01 Patrick Chan (Canada) 196.75 (SP 98.52; TP 295.27) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 194.08 (SP 94.08; TP 288.16) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
03 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 193.41 (SP 99.84; TP 293.25) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
04 Patrick Chan (Canada) 192.61 (SP 87.47; TP 280.08) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
05 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 192.31 (SP 96.27; TP 288.58) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
06 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 191.85 (SP 97.61; TP 289.46) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
07 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 191.35 (SP 91.24; TP 282.59) 2014 WC (Saitama)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 187.96 (SP 93.02; TP 280.98) 2011 WC (Moscow)
09 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 186.07 (SP 88.80; TP 274.87) 2013 European Championships (Zagreb)
10 Patrick Chan (Canada) 185.99 (SP 87.95; TP 273.94) 2012 4CC (Colorado Springs)
11 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 184.05 (SP 98.21; TP 282.26) 2014 WC (Saitama)
12 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 182.72 (SP 94.00; TP 276.72) 2012 WTT (Tokyo)
13 Dennis Ten (Kazakhstan) 181.83 (SP 85.89; TP 267.72) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
14 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 181.16 (SP 92.74; TP 273.90) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
15 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 180.93 (SP 84.66; TP 265.59) 2013 Finlandia Trophy (Espoo)
16 Takahiko Kozuka (Japan) 180.79 (SP 77.62; TP 258.41) 2011 WC (Moscow)
Top 38 Short Program Scores (90+) Men – October 23, 2015
01 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 101.45 (FS 178.68; TP 280.09) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 99.84 (FS 193.41; TP 293.25) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
03 Patrick Chan (Canada) 98.52 (FS 196.75; TP 295.27) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
04 Patrick Chan (Canada) 98.37 (FS 169.41; TP 267.78) 2013 WC (London, Ontario)
05 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 98.21 (FS 184.05; TP 282.26) 2014 WC (Saitama)
06 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 97.98 (no free skate) 2014 Olympics Team Event (Sochi)
07 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 97.61 (FS 191.85; TP 289.46) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 97.52 (FS 178.10; TP 275.62) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
09 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 96.42 (FS 179.51; TP 275.93) 2014 WC (Saitama)
10 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 96.27 (FS 192.31; TP 288.58) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
11 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 95.55 (FS 172.76; TP 268.31) 2013 NHK Trophy (Tokyo)
12 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.37 (FS 168.22; TP 263.59) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
13 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.32 (FS 165.71; TP 261.03) 2012 NHK Trophy (Sendai)
14 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.20 (FS 175.88; TP 271.08) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
15 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.07 (FS 148.67; TP 243.74) 2012 Skate America (Kent)
16 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 94.08 (FS 194.08; TP 288.16) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
17 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 94.00 (FS 182.72; TP 276.72) 2012 WTT (Tokyo)
18 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 93.92 (FS 171.09; TP 265.01) 2014 COR (Moscow)
19 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 93.39 (FS 175.70; TP 269.09) 2014 Skate America (Chicago)
20 Patrick Chan (Canada) 93.02 (FS 187.96; TP 280.98) 2011 WC (Moscow)
21 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 92.74 (FS 181.16; TP 273.90) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
22 Maxim Kovtun (Russia) 92.53 (FS 147.81; TP 240.34) 2013 COR (Moscow)
23 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 92.51 (FS 157.43; TP 249.94) 2014 Golden Spin (Zagreb)
24 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 92.29 (FS 177.11; TP 269.40) 2012 GPF (Sochi)
25 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 91.78 (FS 144.50; TP 236.28) 2014 Trophee Eric Bompard
26 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 91.56 (FS 174.92; TP 266.48) 2013 WC (London, Ontario)
27 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 91.56 (FS 175.55; TP 267.11) 2013-14 European Championships (Budapest)
28 Evgeni Plushenko (Russia) 91.39 (no FS) 2014 Olympics Team Event (Sochi)
29 Evgeni Plushenko (Russia) 91.30 (FS 164.09; TP 255.39) 2010 European Championships (Tallinn, Estonia)
30 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 91.24 (FS 191.35; TP 282.59) 2014 WC (Saitama)
31 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 91.18 (FS 174.20; TP 265.38) 2013 Skate America (Detroit)
32 Evgeni Plushenko (Russia) 90.85 (FS 165.51; TP 256.36) 2010 Olympics (Vancouver)
33 Evgeni Plushenko (Russia) 90.66 (FS 167.67; TP 258.33) 2006 Olympics (Turin)
34 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 90.43 (FS 169.32; TP 259.75) 2011 NHK Trophy (Sapporo)
35 Sergei Voronov (Russia) 90.33 (FS 161.67; TP 252.00) 2014 COR (Moscow)
36 Evan Lysacek (USA) 90.30 (FS 167.37; TP 257.67) 2010 Olympics (Vancouver)
37 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 90.25 (FS 156.98; TP 247.23) 2010 Olympics (Vancouver)
38 Han Yan (China) 90.14 (FS 155.48; TP 245.62) 2013 COC (Beijing)
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Failure or not depends on perspective of people. Failure is not the opposite of success, but a part of it. If you do not fail, you might not notice a lot of things.
I have the quote saved but didn't remember where was it from and after a quick digging I found out it was part of his answer to the question of whether he thought this (last) season a success or failure. It struck me the first time I read it and I admire his way of thinking. He's a person worth to admire for sure.
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- @Geo1, that is a great compilation 
- Wowser!! This is Yuzu's 2012 WC Step Sequence Analysis
. Someone needs to make a similar one for Seimei and Chopin 
- Shared by Asri @YHIFG FB in regards to the cross rolls in Seimei first stsq
- Holy Molly!!! eyes, abs, latex pants, rockstar, chest, hi to you too
- Wowser!! This is Yuzu's 2012 WC Step Sequence Analysis
. Someone needs to make a similar one for Seimei and Chopin - Shared by Asri @YHIFG FB in regards to the cross rolls in Seimei first stsq
- Holy Molly!!! eyes, abs, latex pants, rockstar, chest, hi to you too
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I'm trying to figure out the men's practice time for Skate Canada.
From Skate Canada site of the men entries list, I'm wondering what are the numbers in the last column means (where Japanese skaters have a number 3 each)?
From this details schedule, for example on Thurs Oct 29
9:15 - M S/F 1
9:55 - 2 (is this also men's practice?)
14:45 - M S/F 1
15:25 - 2 (is this also men's practice?)
From Skate Canada site of the men entries list, I'm wondering what are the numbers in the last column means (where Japanese skaters have a number 3 each)?
From this details schedule, for example on Thurs Oct 29
9:15 - M S/F 1
9:55 - 2 (is this also men's practice?)
14:45 - M S/F 1
15:25 - 2 (is this also men's practice?)
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- @Geo1, that is a great compilation
- Wowser!! This is Yuzu's 2012 WC Step Sequence Analysis
- Shared by Asri @YHIFG FB in regards to the cross rolls in Seimei first stsq
- Holy Molly!!! eyes, abs, latex pants, rockstar, chest, hi to you too
Well done analysis and these pictures are
I just found this, is kinda hilarious
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- @Geo1, that is a great compilation
- Wowser!! This is Yuzu's 2012 WC Step Sequence Analysis
- Shared by Asri @YHIFG FB in regards to the cross rolls in Seimei first stsq
- Holy Molly!!! eyes, abs, latex pants, rockstar, chest, hi to you too
WOW that looks like a lot of work to edit
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Yes, I think the #'s next to the names are just the practice order for the 1st session.
I'm so glad I only have 1 exam that week....so I have time to stress over Yuzu instead lol
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Another program about Yuzuru x Mansai.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3aydno_151025-新境地へ_sport
I'll just leave the translations up to knowledgeable fans since I don't know kyogen very much but it was interesting to know what he changed after speaking to Mansai.
I liked the advice he gave to his skater friend when he was in high school and she was in junior high.
http://sports.yahoo.co.jp/column/detail/201510200001-spnavi?p=2
出る杭は打たれるけど、出過ぎると誰かが引き抜いてくれるから頑張ってね
The stake that sticks out gets hammered down but if you stick out too much, someone will pull you out so hang in there.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3aydno_151025-新境地へ_sport
I'll just leave the translations up to knowledgeable fans since I don't know kyogen very much but it was interesting to know what he changed after speaking to Mansai.
I liked the advice he gave to his skater friend when he was in high school and she was in junior high.
http://sports.yahoo.co.jp/column/detail/201510200001-spnavi?p=2
出る杭は打たれるけど、出過ぎると誰かが引き抜いてくれるから頑張ってね
The stake that sticks out gets hammered down but if you stick out too much, someone will pull you out so hang in there.
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Skate Canada @Lethbridge
Here are the time in different time zones based on Skate Canada schedule and the world clock.
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Cities[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Vancouver, SF, LA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Lethbridge[/TD]
[TD="align: center"] Toronto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"] Rio de Janeiro [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]London[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Moscow[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]S'pore, Manila, Beijing[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Tokyo[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Sydney[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Men SP[/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 16:45 [/TD]
[TD]Fri Oct 30, 17:45[/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 19:45 [/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 21:45[/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 23:45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 02:45[/TD]
[TD] Sat Oct 31, 07:45[/TD]
[TD] Sat Oct 31, 08:45[/TD]
[TD] Sat Oct 31, 10:45 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Men FP[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 17:45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 18.45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 20:45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 22:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 00:45 [/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 03:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 08:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 09:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 11:45[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Late afternoon, Evening, Midnight/Middle of the night, Morning
The countdown timers to:
- Men SP Oct 30
- Men FP Oct 31
- Men Practice Oct 29 @9:15 and @14:45
- Men Practice Oct 30
- Men Practice Oct 31
Here are the time in different time zones based on Skate Canada schedule and the world clock.
[TABLE="class: grid"]
[TR]
[TD="align: left"]Cities[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Vancouver, SF, LA[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Lethbridge[/TD]
[TD="align: center"] Toronto[/TD]
[TD="align: center"] Rio de Janeiro [/TD]
[TD="align: center"]London[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Moscow[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]S'pore, Manila, Beijing[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Tokyo[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]Sydney[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Men SP[/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 16:45 [/TD]
[TD]Fri Oct 30, 17:45[/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 19:45 [/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 21:45[/TD]
[TD] Fri Oct 30, 23:45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 02:45[/TD]
[TD] Sat Oct 31, 07:45[/TD]
[TD] Sat Oct 31, 08:45[/TD]
[TD] Sat Oct 31, 10:45 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Men FP[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 17:45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 18.45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 20:45[/TD]
[TD]Sat Oct 31, 22:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 00:45 [/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 03:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 08:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 09:45[/TD]
[TD]Sun Nov 1, 11:45[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Late afternoon, Evening, Midnight/Middle of the night, Morning
The countdown timers to:
- Men SP Oct 30
- Men FP Oct 31
- Men Practice Oct 29 @9:15 and @14:45
- Men Practice Oct 30
- Men Practice Oct 31
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- Wowser!! This is Yuzu's 2012 WC Step Sequence Analysis
Hum, actually, this is the choreo sequence, and most of the steps are not actual steps especially the choctaws...
But I agree someone should do this type of analysis on his programs ! I will try if I have time someday...
Don't have time to edit a video but to have an idea the Chopin StSq is basically:
Cross-over, rocker, cross-over, inside loop, mohawk+cross-over (a step called "the drunk bottle" in french but no idea of the english word
), jump, twizzle, jumps and toepicks, 3-turn, cross-over, rocker, counter, double rocker, stroke, rocker, counter, bracket, ina bauer, half-flip, mohawk 3-turn, cross-over, twizzle, mohawk, twizzle, counter, loop, 3turn..... and all this going into a huge spin.... Realized by writing it the amount of steps and the difficulty ... well... Yuzu :shocked:
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Am I the only stupid person desperately trying to get the meaning of this quote?
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Actually me too
:, if someone could help explain is much appreciated. Don't have time to edit a video but to have an idea the Chopin StSq is basically:
Cross-over, rocker, cross-over, inside loop, mohawk+cross-over (a step called "the drunk bottle" in french but no idea of the english word
Wowser! @Pika, the above is from when to when in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xtL3a8vrj4 ?
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We can join hand, how about writing down the step sequence of Chopin in SC? I will do the sub for you.Don't have time to edit a video but to have an idea the Chopin StSq is basically:
Cross-over, rocker, cross-over, inside loop, mohawk+cross-over (a step called "the drunk bottle" in french but no idea of the english word
And we will wait for Seimei's version at SC, do you mind writing down the stsq for Seimei too?
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