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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

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I don't think I was rude to you, so I don't see a reason to be rude to me, as I am allowed an opinion, even if it doesn't agree with yours. Don't worry though, I won't make the mistake of addressing you again, so if I was rude, it won't happen again. And as I said above, I'll stop talking about this here.
Sorry, it might not have occurred to you, but I'm allowed an opinion about such opinions too - I think you just presume too much and you've chosen a very unfortunate moment for it. It saddens me. It's not up to us, fans, to decide what happens next. and how to deal with what's going on.
and you know, life goes on even after an athlete retires. and it matters then what he learns right now - and I do think he's on a learning curve right now. He'll cope, he'll come back stronger. My hat off to him for coping with this crushing defeat the way he does - his pain is visible, he can barely speak, but he does hold on - but the defeat's temporary. He's very special in every way.
 
I would suspect it's the same foot injury he had in January that they said had healed...maybe it truly has not healed and if not, it's probably bothersome, but not serious enough for him to skip the exhibition.
 
I really wished he didn't skip the 4CC. I was concerned that if he skips the 4CC, his mind would not be able to handle the pressure at WC because his mind was off for 3 months. The pressure on him at WC is enormous. Pressure is real substance. A person needs to personally experience the pressure to become mentally stronger. He can't become mentally stronger by skipping competitions. The pressure and expectation at GPF was really big as well. He was able to handle the pressure because he was in competition mode at that time. His mind was stronger when he was competing with short breaks.

The good thing is, he won't skip 4CC next year because 4CC will be held in the same venue as the Olympics.
 
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If his coach won't help solve his problems, then he shouldn't be his coach. It's what coaches are for. To me, this season isn't a success where it counts in terms of titles and the issue is a long-standing one. He completely lost it when he should have shown what he's made of and all his talent in its full glory.

Anyway, I've said the rest before. He'll do what he thinks is best and I'm only saying this anyway because to be honest till the end - Yuzuru deserves better IMO. Ah well.

In this case it's not Orser, it's Yuzuru. He let the nerves got to him in that last second. He's human, he's not perfect. He will make mistakes and it's okay. Orser did all he could to prepare him and it really came down to whether Yuzuru could handle it or not. Yuzuru has the upmost respect for Brian, even after this freeskate, he still acknowledged Orser because he really does appreciate all that he's done for him. That little bow is enough to show just how he feels about Orser as his coach, enough said.
 
Well seeing Yuzuru skate live tonight...it was such an honor and a magical moment for me to do. I know it wasn't perfect, but I'm SO happy that I got to see him skate! Absolutely magical MAGICAL! My wish came true!
 
He won't skip it next year, it's the Olympic test event, isn't it?

Re; not competing for 3 months... it is a long time, even Kurt was wondering about the long time off.. but in retrospect, maybe he would have ended up withdrawing anyway considering he had a foot injury then.
 
At practice this morning, he fell on some of his quads which was unusual. It may be that the foot injury is alittle more than minor. I remember reading somewhere in this thread that he wouldn't use injury as an excuse and he used the example when Mao skated with a broken bone and never complained or use it as an excuse. Yuzu is the same way, he wouldn't say that he fell because of injury.
 
At practice this morning, he fell on some of his quads which was unusual. It may be that the foot injury is alittle more than minor. I remember reading somewhere in this thread that he wouldn't use injury as an excuse and he used the example when Mao skated with a broken bone and never complained or use it as an excuse. Yuzu is the same way, he wouldn't say that he fell because of injury.

He jumped like 8 quads in a row in today practice. No need to overreact over this news.
 
Javi skated with injury too and was clean. Injury is definitely not an excuse for Yuzu. He didn't get major injuries. I really doubt he wouldn't be able to compete at 4CC because of a minor injury. The issue is a person can't just become mentally strong by thinking about it. They have to personally experience the mental pressure to become stronger. It's the same reason his first GP is always not good because of the long off season break. The pressure will not get any less in the future. It will only get bigger. At the next Olympics, he will face the biggest pressure ever.
 
holy s*** this thread can't avoid being a mess sometimes huh ? :shock2:

Fans love him, and when Yuzu is less than his best, we all react differently. It can't be helped, really, because it's human nature.


Yuzu tried so hard to hold it in, and he smiled for us.

So I cried for him.
 
I am glad this season is over without major injury for Yuzu.
For emotional control, he can only learn from experience. Yes, he already had Sochi experience, but that time he did not have the pressure of being called as legend, or all time best skater. He probably felt he has to prove it. His overreaction to D10 incident was bit strange to me(Whoops! I brought this again:shame:). Thinking back, it reminds his pressure after winning Sochi gold and going into COC. He needs to find a good balance.
But good thing is he knows it already as he is so far talking to the media and pointing that his problem was mental.

Looking forward to see what programs he will do next year! He said he wants to do something like Javi's LP. Does that mean he wil go back to David:scard8:

On the topic of Coach, Yuzu said many times the reason he chose TCC for the place to train is all the skating environment and the whole coaching team, and above all Javi is there. He knows that he is most motivated when he is training with his best rival. He learned how to stabilize his 4 sal from Javi and how to do 4 combo in 2nd half from Javi. Javi is really special for him because of his kind character. I agree in most cases this kind of set up would not work, but Javi and Yuzu combination is really different from others. I think thaks mostly to Javi bieng so kind and grown up.

For mental support he relies more on his Mom and Kikuchi-san because of his language and they just know him all through his life. Is that unprofessional? I don't know. But Yuzu is smart kid and stuborn. I think he is the type of person he finds his own solution through talking. And for that he needs someone Japanese for now. He probalby listens to other's advice, but he does not follow that unless he believes that is the best.

I don't mean to undervalue the importance of Orser being the coach either, because I think he is like a producer in a movie who cordinates things strategically. But Yuzu's case, he is not any skater who will just follow the instructions of the coach. So having a coach dedicated only to him is not what he needs. I feel he is becoming more and more independet especially this season in his choice of programs and program layout and so on. If Brian says he will dedicate himself only to Yuzu, I think Yuzu will say no Thnak You:handw:

I haven't seen the conference report, but I am sure his mind is alerady set for next season and how to work on consistancy.
He tried quad sal combo in 2nd half for the first time. That is a big challenge. People forget easily the gravity of that decision, because he changed SP program so much in the middle of the season and succeded it as if it was nothing. Mental control does not stand alone. When you are used to the technical content, even if you mind is off somewhere, you body memory takes charge and lead its way, then you get your confidence back and you mind-set again gets proper focus. This time he probably did not have that body memory for 4sal combo. Next year his body memory will be ready. He knows all those things himself. He is probably talking through tonight with her mom figuring out how to deal with it.
Yes it is mental thing, but solution is not necessarity mental control training, but more technical and physical. That is something Orser said I think.
And for me I can go back to GPF again and again. His WR will stay unless he himself will break it.
 
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