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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

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Oops! Sorry, meant to tag the 2T onto the 3Lz.

But looking at it again, he could zayak his loop if he pops it in the first half... hmm

He won't Zayak because he only has one repeated jump 3A. The 4T is not repeated anymore.

Thus the 2T should be tagged onto 3Lo+2T. So he won't be penalized for two solo jump of the same type if he pops the 4Lo.
 
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4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T
3A+3T
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lo
3Lz

Not sure if the point values would ultimately beat his current layout (too lazy to do the math) but at least this prevents him from zayaking

I think it's more like
4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lz+2T
3Lz

He will be repeating 3A and 3Lz. Whether he will add 4Lo depends on if he is physically ready and if the 4Lo is ready to be included in competitions.
 
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I think it's more like
4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lz+2T
3Lz

He will be repeating 3A and 3Lz. Whether he will add 4Lo depends on if he is physically ready and if the 4Lo is ready to be included in competitions.

I like this layout better:
4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lo+2T
3Lz

If he pops the first 4Lo into 3Lo

4S
3Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lo+2T
3Lz

All elements preserved.

If he pops the first 4Lo into 3Lo, he has a second chance to do the 4Lo

4S
3Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A
3A+1Lo+3S
4Lo+2T
3Lz

All elements still preserved.

If he wants to be SuperHanyu, he can do a second 4Lo.

4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A
3A+1Lo+3S
4Lo+2T
3Lz

All elements still preserved.
 
Honestly, I think we can expect him plan a 4Lo next season, but not this year. But for sure, we'll see him trying 4Lo in future training sessions during the next months. :)
 
I like this layout better:
4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lo+2T
3Lz

He is not maximizing points with this layout if he does 3Lo instead of 3Lz. It's not realistic to expect him to jump 4Lo in the second half of the program at this point. This layout also changes the layout quite significantly. I don't think he will use this layout at WC. So if he does include the 4Lo, perhaps he would do the following:

4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A+2T
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lo
3Lz

This layout makes the minimum change to the program. But since this layout is not maximizing points, perhaps he will not go for this layout at the WC, maybe at TCC. I see TCC as a good competition to try out new elements. (I see some value in TCC now.)
 
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Q: Coach Brian Orser said that “Yuzuru is also human”.

A: Right from the beginning I am human. I was very nervous at both the GPF and at the NHK Trophy, and was also nervous here. I couldn’t move well, I was exhausted, and although I have come to be able to master this layout in my own way, I couldn’t do it this time. Coach said to me “Isn’t it a good thing this happened here?” Although to me the Japanese National Championships is very important as the competition to determine Japan’s representatives and who is at the top in Japan, the most important competition is still the World Championships, thus he said “It’s a good thing that looking towards the World Championships, we found issues to work on here.”

Brian Orser is all of us.
 
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Thank you ! :)
Sorry about my silly question !!!:scratch2: I thought it was possible only -3, but I saw -3,31 in SP (4S) , -4 at FP (4 T<+REP). Why and what does it mean?
Thank you for your answer! :)
A fall on the quad means -4, however the fall in the SP was more like a half fall because his butt did not touch the ice, so some judges could be more lenient on it because he fell on the knee. That's why you see -3,31 not -4. If the judges were more strict it would have been -4 but I can see the reason why some judges did not think of it as full fall.

The fall in the 4T in the LP was on the butt so full -4 is rightful. And because he did have a 4T in the first half, the 4T in the second was supposed to be in combo to avoid repeating but he felt on it so there was no combo thus it was marked as REP (repeat).
 
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Thank you ! :)
Sorry about my silly question !!!:scratch2: I thought it was possible only -3, but I saw -3,31 in SP (4S) , -4 at FP (4 T<+REP). Why and what does it mean?
Thank you for your answer! :)
This summer ISU had some asjustments for factoring GOE for quads to punish falls more, thats why you get up to -4 GOE for your mistake/fall, there is a GOE factoring table for all kind of jumps depending on they are single, double, triple or quad, hope this answers your question :)
 
Q: Coach Brian Orser said that “Yuzuru is also human”.

A: Right from the beginning I am human. I was very nervous at both the GPF and at the NHK Trophy, and was also nervous here. I couldn’t move well, I was exhausted, and although I have come to be able to master this layout in my own way, I couldn’t do it this time. Coach said to me “Isn’t it a good thing this happened here?” Although to me the Japanese National Championships is very important as the competition to determine Japan’s representatives and who is at the top in Japan, the most important competition is still the World Championships, thus he said “It’s a good thing that looking towards the World Championships, we found issues to work on here.

I think Yuzu should analyze his pre-performance condition. What were his feelings before NHK, GPF and Nationals? And how they affected his performance. And apply that to Boston. If he has the same level of exhaustion and pressure as it was in Nationals, he should consider lowering his BV during the performance.

Change 4T+3T to 3T+3T
Change 3S (in the combo) to 2S.

During the Nationals FP, the 3S and the 3Lo landings were not perfect after the falls, so it would be good to go with a easier layout if he feels less than Yuzu-NHK or Yuzu-GPF.
 
He is not maximizing points with this layout if he does 3Lo instead of 3Lz. It's not realistic to expect him to jump 4Lo in the second half of the program at this point. This layout also changes the layout quite significantly. I don't think he will use this layout at WC. So if he does include the 4Lo, perhaps he would do the following:

4S
4Lo
3F
--
4T+3T
3A+2T
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lo
3Lz

This layout makes the minimum change to the program. But since this layout is not maximizing points, perhaps he will not go for this layout at the WC, maybe at TCC. I see TCC as a good competition to try out new elements. (I see some value in TCC now.)

The layout with 2 3As and 2 3 lutzes is begging for zayaking, the risk is great, the difference in points small. And given that Yuzu's 3 loop is good and his 3 lutz is a wild card, there may be no points difference at all.

To truly maximize the points he'd have to gi: 4Lo, 4S, 3F, 4T, 3A-3Lo, 3A-1lo-3S, 3Lz, 3Lz-3T. Again, this is begging for zayaking, but he could try it during the Olympic season, to up the ante. Unless he masters the 4Lz or tries going fir 4 quads by that time of course.
 
Does anyone have a link to the podium ceremony? I still haven't seen it.

Unfortunately I don't think there's one yet; it was a taped coverage and so they only showed a quick shot of him hoisting the big trophy up. There won't be any fan video since Japan is very strict when it comes to videotaping. So unless the TV channel decides to air it someday, I am afraid it's not to be seen.:sad21: (give me silly Team Japan Men!)
 
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