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Hanyu looking to add more quads to program ahead of worlds

Runnerup at the 2014-15 world championships, Hanyu’s current program features a quad toeloop and a quad salchow but he said Monday he is eager to add a quad loop into the mix.

“I should add more types of quads and I have until March to work on it,” Hanyu said during a news conference in Sapporo, where he won the national championship on Saturday despite underperforming by his standards.

“Obviously I want to win (at the world championships) but before that I want to perform well like I did at the NHK Trophy and Grand Prix Final.”
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I love this music from Requiem so much (and choreography) that I wanted it for a SP :ohwell: He feels the music so well..he lives it.
 
A very interesting interview with Shoma's coach Machiko Yamada. Yuzu is leading the way, and coaches are trying to catch up with him.
http://shoma-uno.tumblr.com/post/136066313431/yamada-machiko-uno-shoma-kun-is-a-fine-young

A continual challenge will definitely be the jumps. For men’s singles, two types of quads will soon be the norm. This season, Uno has one toe loop in the short program and two in the free skate.

“By next season, it looks like two types of quads will become the bare minimum needed. The way the men have to continued to up their technical level — it’s a terrifying world. Shoma-kun has never been the powerful, talented jumper, he’s more of the hard-working type. I think he will have a challenging time mastering 2-3 more types of quads.”

Actually, he started training other quads besides the quad toe loop in the summer of 2015; however, that has been halted since the season began.

“In the summer, he started with the quad salchow, but the triple salchow has never really been his strength. So, he tried the quad loop which looked good. But, we only practice it every now and then to avoid injuries during the season. We’ll focus on it more in the next off-season.”
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Looks like we will get a second skater with quad loop next season.

2016-2017 is already looking super exciting! :yahoo:

Go Yuzu!, Go Shoma! Go loop loop loop loop! :yahoo:
 
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gsyzf said:
He is not maximizing points with this layout if he does 3Lo instead of 3Lz. It's not realistic to expect him to jump 4Lo in the second half of the program at this point. This layout also changes the layout quite significantly. I don't think he will use this layout at WC. So if he does include the 4Lo, perhaps he would do the following:

4S
4Lo
3F
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4T+3T
3A+2T
3A+1Lo+3S
3Lo
3Lz

This layout makes the minimum change to the program. But since this layout is not maximizing points, perhaps he will not go for this layout at the WC, maybe at TCC. I see TCC as a good competition to try out new elements. (I see some value in TCC now.)
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But he can easily maximize points with this... if he does 3A-3T instead of 3A-2T. (So: 4Lo, 4S, 3F, 4T3T*, 3A3T*, 3A1/2Lo3S*, 3Lo*, 3Lz*)
The magic CoP milkery pretty much tells you it's best to look at those 8 jumping passes... and throw in everything, every single at-least-triple that you've got. With 3 quads and 6 triples, Yuzuru has 9 "different" jumps and can at max do 11 triples+quads. And that's how he gets maximum points.

Current jump BV: 79.89
Jump BV with 4Lo/3 quads/2x3Lutz: 82.58
Jump BV with 4Lo/3 quads/3A3T: 84.93

So with 2 3Lz's he gets +2.69; with the upgraded 3A3T +5.04. Zayak risk is there, but not that big: popped the 4Lo or 4T to a triple? Go back to 3A2T. And given how good his 3A3T is, while it's of course more demanding than a 3A2T, it's probably still more of a "comfortable" change for him (and I'd trust that layout more than a 2nd 3Lz :biggrin: ).

Want to see something stupid and why I really don't think he'll go for 4 quads this season? Adding a 4th quad means he has to take out 2 triples of the maximum number he could do. If he basically goes with 4Lo, 4S, 4T, 4T3T*, 3A2T*, 3A1/2Lo3S*, 3F*, 3Lz* he gets a jump BV of 86.85. Compared to the maxed out 3 quad LP that gives him... a whopping +1.92 in BV. It's not really worth the way higher risk.

As a side note, regarding that taking out 3F or 3Lo thing... it's not just a Zayak issue. Yes, Yuzu cares for points, but there are some other things he really wants to achieve aside from high scores. One of that is being "a complete skater", and I'd say a complete skater needs a complete set of jumps. I just can't see him kicking out the 3F and therefor one type of jump completely. Even if it was easier for him to take out the 3F, Yuzu doesn't do easy anyway :p
 
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Li'Kitsu said:
But he can easily maximize points with this... if he does 3A-3T instead of 3A-2T. (So: 4Lo, 4S, 3F, 4T3T*, 3A3T*, 3A1/2Lo3S*, 3Lo*, 3Lz*)
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You are right. I forgot he can repeat the 3T. If he does the following layout, it gives him max points for 3 different types of quads and requires the least change to the choreography. I think 4Lo might be the second quad instead of the first quad. (If he does 4Lo first, he will need to change the choreography before 4S too.) This will most likely be the layout he is aiming for at WC. His planned BV will be around 100.
4S
4Lo
3F
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4T3T
3A3T
3A-1Lo-3S
3Lo
3Lz

Li'Kitsu said:
Want to see something stupid and why I really don't think he'll go for 4 quads this season? Adding a 4th quad means he has to take out 2 triples of the maximum number he could do. If he basically goes with 4Lo, 4S, 4T, 4T3T*, 3A*, 3A1/2Lo3S*, 3F*, 3Lz* he gets a jump BV of 86.85. Compared to the maxed out 3 quad LP that gives him... a whopping +1.92 in BV. It's not really worth the way higher risk.
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He is now squeezing his two year plan in 1 year. I don't think he will go for 4 quads this season. But I think he may very likely go for 4 quads next season. If he repeats 4T and 3A in a 4 quad LP, the increase in BV is not very big (around 2 points), but it's a stepping stone for a 4 quad LP with 4 different types of quads. A LP with 4 different types of quads will give him over 8 points increase in BV compared to the maxed out 3 quad LP. I don't think he is practicing 4Lz for no reason.

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ETA: The current system rewards all-round skills, hence the zayak rule. Skaters who demonstrate more variety of skills (including more variety of jumps) have an advantage over skaters who don't. If the system is not designed this way, it's possible Yuzuru won't keep the 3F in his program. He didn't fix his 3F edge until the deduction for wrong edge increased.
 
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