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I do agree somewhat with what Meoima mentioned previously about how over-thinking, overconfidence and over-training seem to be what usually affects Yuzu and after watching what happened yesterday, I came to the same conclusion myself.

Even before the warm up, I was very nervous for his skate because he was so emotional after his short program and you could tell that he was very nervous before both short and long programs. Hearing that he practised so many quads in the morning (does he usually do so many in a row? And all mainly one jump) made me think that he would tire his body out. He seems to do better after being well-rested like at the first practise session on Monday and going into jumps confidently. During the 6 min warm up, he doubled his loop and I was even more anxious from that. He doubled it again in the warm up right before his skate and I knew it would be a bad skate for him even though he landed the 3A, since it's so rare to see him double his loops. That just spells trouble for his salchows and it made him visibly more anxious and I was not surprised at all when he said later that he was not confident in his 4S-3T (in fact, all his salchows had problems). Frankly, I have never seen him so anxious and nervous before a competition as much as he was here and I was surprised when I read that he said he was calm before the start of his program. His demeanor didn't seem calm (in my opinion) but frazzled instead. High-strung. Actually, high-strung is probably the best adjective to describe him this whole week.

I feel like the pressure both from himself and the audience for a PERFECT skate from him was too much for him to handle. I think that he wanted to be perfect much more than he wanted to be first (though being first would come naturally if he skated perfectly). One thing he admires so much about Plushenko was his ability to skate clean so many times and he even asked him about that during the ice show in January. So once he messed up the first jump, he just fell apart (by his standards). The fight that is usually there for him wasn't there last night since he already failed his goal of being perfect after the first jump. Just because of one thing he knew going in that could've made his skate not perfect (4S-3T) affected his whole performance and I thought that he should've went for the 4T-3T instead after all the 4T practice he did that morning and he felt that it wasn't stable. He was over-thinking it right from the start and essentially, the same thing that happened at Nationals happened here. He perhaps should've taken his own advice from after the Nationals skate and just do each element one by one instead of trying to achieve perfection!

Sure, he is just as disappointed as we all are, but I sense now that he is actually relieved after the performance because the pressure is gone.

Of course, these are all just from my perspective and are just my opinion, so don't treat them as facts.

Basically he's always nervous before competition and I think this is a common sense that nearly all athletes are terribly nervous before such a large competition. According to Orser, Hanyu was nervous but not anything unusual. Hanyu himself even said he's quite clam before the show. Probably they missed something, but again, I dunno why we, fans, saw Hanyu like 15 minutes a day (or even less) can tell more than his coach team or even himself? We don't need to always agree with our little prince and his coaches but at least, that conclusion should be drawn with enough evidence.

It's easy to rationalize an argument when we think back and match the nuances to the result. Must there be a necessary causal relationship? No.

Hanyu was emotional to an extent that his facial expression of his ending pose was being teased as a face of devil after NHK SP last year but he made it again in FS. He's not doing very well during the last practice before SP in WC this year also, but we can't say the SP result was bad. Meanwhile, Last year, he was not doing anything weird in practice sessions before FS, but he lost finally.

Don't even mention his lots of practice sessions during lots of competitions he's taken part in previous years. He's not the roller-coaster but he's not definitely stable when we are talking about his performance in practice.

According to his own words, there's a problem of 'unbalance between physical and mental status.' So I am not saying he's perfect or no need to improve, it's just, to me, he knows the causes and it absolutely no evidence showing there are anything as serious as some kind oh mental crisis that let him breakdown in the future.
 
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Take your 4min watch this vid, worth single second, thank very much for fan who creat it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWH2_Y0tJRo

This is a shocking video. But if you are the uploader, please change the title to WC 2015. Because people know that this is WC 2015. Having wrong title devalue the materiality of this video.
I don't intend to bring up this discussion here, but people have different view on this even after watching this. Anyway I think it's worth watching, but the information has to be accurate.
 
This is a shocking video. But if you are the uploader, please change the title to WC 2015. Because people know that this is WC 2015. Having wrong title devalue the materiality of this video.
I don't intend to bring up this discussion here, but people have different view on this even after watching this. Anyway I think it's worth watching, but the information has to be accurate.

Im not uploader, I think Chinese fan made this and translate to Japanese and English, the Japanese title show 2015-2016, maybe they forget when translate, you can comment to remind them. But anyway, there is caption 2015 warm up in the corner
 
Im not uploader, I think Chinese fan made this and translate to Japanese and English, the Japanese title show 2015-2016, maybe they forget when translate, you can comment to remind them. But anyway, there is caption 2015 warm up in the corner

yeah! you are right. I noticed that when I rewatched it. Thanks.
 
We can say, it's not bad, it's silver, but for him on personal level that was propably the most devastating moment in his career. He is the best, he broke records so many times this season. He was on top of very high mountain, he was on it still in SP, and what happened in LP was just mental hammer that throwed him of that mountain.
It was easy to get over last season Worlds, he had surgery, he was injuired, not prepared at all. But from this one it will be hard to get over. Hopefully he can do it, because we saw in past that moments like that broke many skaters.
:sad21::sad21::sad21: please Yuzuru do something, come back please Yuzuru...
 
Russian Eurosport commentary of Yuzuru's LP by Jurankov and Voronov.

Into Yuzuru's LP skate:

Jurankov: Now let's see the skate by Yuzuru Hanyu. To be honest we all so got used to him being immaculate this season that now it's only up to the judges how will the score him tonight.
Voronov: Don't forget that it's a World Championships. Yes, I understand that last year we've already witnessed that Hanyu did not skate that good and then he was rooting for Javier so that Javier became a Worlds Champion for the first time.

The skate begins.

Voronov: This program- Seimei- is absolutely first-class. Suits him a lot.
Jurankov: Seimei is a... actually there is a movie, he was a Japanese wiseman, he lived at the beginning of the second millenium, at the turn of millenium.

4S
Jurankov: Oh, that was rough.
Voronov: With hand down.
Jurankov: When he landed there was it looks like pudlle, right before the judges.
Voronov: I think it's because it's very hot in there, there are a lot of people in the arena so the cooling system doesn't work properly. And here comes 4T, great gob, he fought for it! Thirple flip, awesome. Now the rest of the jumps will be on the second part.
Jurankov: And one fo those jumps would be an attempt of a quad. All the moves are made into the music that has a lot of subtext, very meaninful one as well as a Japanese sense of purpose.
Voronov: We've already discussed this during the Ladies event taht Yuzuru acts as a real samurai, he is humble, amiable.

4S

Jurankov: Here it is- oh no. That was the second quad.
Voronov: Didn't work today.
Jurankov: It was a second quad Sal, I was wrong. In fact it was his third quad.
Voronov: 3A3T- well done! That's the attitude!

The skate is done.

Jurankov: How he is always in time with this final accord.
Voronov: Right. There is so much of a will power in him. He fell in the second part on his third quad. It was visible that his jumps were not ideal, he did not succeed on some of them but he fought.
Juranknov: Yes, some say it happens that they feel constraint in the feet, must be the wrong day, something went wrong.
Voronov: But he is the one who is able to fight. He fought through the entire program. It's admirable.
Jurankov: We haven't seen Yuzuru dropping with sweat like this for quite a long time now. Even when he skated at GPF when he reached his final accord (in Seimei) and there was a feeling that he is able to skate again, his SP at least. But what is the conclusion at the moment? The conclusion is that here in Boston at this very moment in time Kolyada (judging by the score we saw on the screen in the left top corner) Kolyada performed better than Hanyu. But of course Yuzuru is an amazing figure skater but... now we need to calculate a bit, right? Serghey?
Voronov: Emm...
Jurankov: Let's calculate the score for Yuzuru.

This part is hard to read, sorry, I did not translate a part with basically numbers. We can see numbers in the Judges Scores.

So they watch the recap of jumps and mark mistakes and possible score. (I hate that part, they basically calculate deductions).

Jurankov: So he lost about 12 points. On quad Sal the most and on his Lz at the end.
Voronov: Not his best (skate).
Jurankov: So it's about 15 points off, right?
Voronov: Anyway I think that Javier will get the chance (to win). Perhaps it wouldn't be a big one but it it could be.
Jurankov: So it seems like he lost all of his handicap.

Seeing the score Jurankov compares it to GPF one and says Yuzu lost to himself with more than 30 points.
The end.

You see what I start to hate... Is that we all expect Yuzu to always come with 200 something now. Even the commentators, some of them, I mean... Voronov wasn't that harsh not because he likes Yuzu a lot and not because he has a lot of respect to Yuzuru as a fellow athlete but simply because he knows what it means to have a bad skate day. It's not only Yuzu who needs to loosen up, we all need to loosen up on him too. And let him be a human. Can we?
 
Just saying his mental issue keep repeating and it's getting bigger as the pressure is on. So there must be some way to deal with it. The root of the issue is to control his too strong emotions and yet he lost it, this time too big.

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It's so painful to read this. I mean even his coach didn't notice what's off with his mind at that moment. Brian knew Yuzuru was off but he didn't know why.
I'm not recommending coach changing or something. But the root of the issue is that it has been there in his mind for too long yet there has been no treatment. Look at all the time he bombed: SA 2012, Sochi, Shanghai and now Boston.
It's the demon inside him getting stronger each time it's out.
So Yuzuru must find a way to deal with this. If this means he needs some special psychologist or a new environment then they should do it.


This article:disapp:
And Fernandez, really? Did you have fun to tease Yuzuru?
"It's okay Yuzu, you have still enogh time to beat me" are you SERIOUS?
Yeah, we know, you are the "best" and nobody can beat you.
I'm done with this.:dev2:
 
Don't worry. Our japanese fans trust in yuzu.
Now truth was revealed. That's enough.

When it comes to racism, as he raise himself as a victim first, he will definitely win the game.

I heard that JSF is letting it go. I strongly disagree with it and I am desperately upset to their way to handle it. Japanese skaters are just... sorry, maybe I am to angry and not rational but I do feel they just always don't get the justice internationally.

Urghhhhhhh my boy... I am so furious about what happened to Hanyu... He did nothing wrong but to the public who don't know the full picture, he's now the bad guy who is rude and lack of sportsmanship...

Don't even mention that I felt terrible and shocked to reveal that there's not many people give a dam_ to safety matters. After this incident, I found nearly no skating fans should say anything about ISU's arrangement in safety during practice as fans actually don't think it's important for the skaters to have the awareness to safety issue. People think it's no big deal, okay, then it is what it is. I can just laugh and tell people - don't blame ISU anymore.
 
And i read some comments that mention yuzu should consider to change coach? It's yuzu's decision. But i hope he won't. I think brian, tracy, tcc environment-and yes also javi is good for him. It somewhat make his life felt more normal? In Japan, i think it will be like pressure cooker for him..

Nop, all are fan's chit-chats; similar when he was injured and ill last year :sarcasm:
 
I know it's not in any way the same, but in my university I have to do a lot of public speaking. And I've done it so much I'm quite comfortable doing it, I get butterflies in my stomach but it's fine and I relax and I speak. Last week however I had to speak and I could not stop shaking. My heart was pounding, I felt way more nervous than ever before, even though all day leading up to my speaking I felt calm. I couldn't tell you why I was so extra nervous, I just was?

My point being, it can be super unsettling when your nerves get the best of you because it is difficult to understand why. However, it happens to us all and at least Yuzuru has been able to handle it afterwards better than he ever has in the past. No crying, no constant apologising, he didn't come down hard on himself. He actually said he was proud of his sp and his skating - basically unheard of from Yuzu usually??

I'm just not concerned at all, except of course to know that he's fine. Which it seems like he is from those adorable photos you guys have been sharing!
 
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Thanks for the translation. Only his 4S was off. And I agree with Voronov, he fighted through the program. Even added the 3T to the first 3A, he had the 2T planned. It wasn't a poor skate by any means. But he was already perfect twice in both the SP and FS this season, so maybe we (and Yuzuru!) were meant to be dissapointed.
I guess he will learn something form this experience, that it's important to peak at the right time. He always wants to be on top of his game, maybe that's not possible, even for him.
 
We can say, it's not bad, it's silver, but for him on personal level that was propably the most devastating moment in his career. He is the best, he broke records so many times this season. He was on top of very high mountain, he was on it still in SP, and what happened in LP was just mental hammer that throwed him of that mountain.
It was easy to get over last season Worlds, he had surgery, he was injuired, not prepared at all. But from this one it will be hard to get over. Hopefully he can do it, because we saw in past that moments like that broke many skaters.

As I said that people feel different. How bad is a defeat is something related to your personal attribute in nature, in the simplest way to say. If people think it's the end of the world, then so be it. He's very upset obviously, but devastating? He did even have a thought he couldn't be on ice again last year. He had a period of time that he's always missed the chance to beat P Chan. But later on he went through that. TBH I dun even exactly understand what he's done to make it but anyway he did that at the end of the day.

If he can't tell what's wrong with it than I will be a bit worry. I understand those skaters, actually not only skaters, can't figure out a way out from a disappointing failure as they can't identify the issue. But Hanyu isn't anyone of them. He had a pretty good record in facing different and strange kinds of challenges. And most importantly, up to date it looks like he's still that smart boy I know. What he shows his difference in mental and mindset to other athletes who also faced sever failure is that he did even list out a few points within a day about the issues that he's going to work on. As we all don't know the details but he got that. He has that in his mind. Quicker than I thought.

He will probably still a bit gloomy and I trust he will look like he wants to bite Javier's artey when he looks at the board in TCC lol. But that's his motivation and he has been moving on already. that's what I mean he's taking it much better than some fans.

When we are talking about mental toughness in a hype, he's the one actually been doing it, living it and showing it with his work. That's what making me relieved and I found no reasons to have a dim speculation to his future.

I haven't mended my heart yet but I try to move on like him.
 
Nop, all are fan's chit-chats; similar when he was injured and ill last year :sarcasm:

Thanks for clarify this.

So that's what I am worrying. Yes, we don't know if Yuzu or TCC will see anything here but it doesn't mean our words here are not influencing anything. When fans' imaginations and 'suggestion' go wild, it creates misunderstanding.

Having fun to enjoy expressing oneself with bottom line of imaginations and speculations is much appreciated. Just saying. :think:
 
Yuzu receiving his small medal , our boy is so polite.

The fans gathered for the ceremony ...they can just scream because everyone was taking photo so cannot clap. I hope he feel the love.

More photos #1, #2, #3, #4

Ema (spelling?) good luck for next season

Thanks so much for these!

I am saved... not only a bit. :agree:

He certainly got the love from the mass, looking at that cute little smile... I can't even... *fangirling*

I am starting to regret that I didn't go because of my lifetime dark age after the FS...
 
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Some more pictures of Yuzu and Javi on a small medal ceremony. Javi is a very supporting friend, he's been comforting Yuzu just standing close to him and hugging him for the pictures. And look at his palm on Yuzu's back. That is what friends do.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHGRnEVAAASFBw.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHGRnGUEAAGsbq.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHGRnEVIAAole4.jpg:large This one is so lovely.:luv17:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHUpAZWIAAsZEh.jpg:large :love:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHUpAYW4AAuQPr.jpg:large :love:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHUpD0WsAAP4Bt.jpg:large :love:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfHUpGeW4AAfAC-.jpg:large
Source.
 
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