Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

[Interspectator]

Thanks sorrent. I understand what you said. But one thing, Brian himself said after the competition, “yuzu was nervous since his official practice. It was difficult to take care of both two at the same time.” It’s no wonder someone who listen to think that Brian took care of Javi more at that time before FP? Further, yuzu was also injured and in the mess. Why Brian didn't something more to ease yuzu’s mind? It’s a role of a coarch?

We don't know that Brian didn't. We lack the information to make any sort of evaluation of the quality of their relationship. I understand concern. I am concerned. We all want Yuzu to be happy (and to win) but our speculation about his relationship with Brian and the Cricket Club is going nowhere. I'm pretty sure that if Yuzu feels he is not getting what he needs, he'll go elsewhere. As it is, Brian is doing his best and Yuzu posted bigger scores this year than ever before. The imperfect skate he did at Worlds reflects a need to improve in areas which Yuzu and his team are well aware of now. They will be working on that next, just like they worked on his skating skills, his stamina, his jump-layout, and his polish and posture.

I'm not saying that Brian is perfect or that he may not have gotten the balance between Yuzu and Javi wrong this time. But that with all the imperfections that the situation has right now, the team works in a way that no other team works for any other coach and students anywhere in the world.

-Yuzu and Javi are the BEST IN THE WORLD and a lot of it is due to their training situation at the cricket club. Faults and all.
If this stops being ideal for Yuzu, he's not a victim to sit around letting a bad situation continue. He'll make a change if he needs it. Until then, he's in Toronto, getting ready for next season. -So Goo Yuzu!

 

[yuzu0120]

I completely agree with you:agree:

love with your heart and then trust your heart

 

[xibsuarz]

Please, is it possible not to use a paternalistic tone ?
We'll all here to support Yuzu in one of the most difficult moment of his skating life.
Personally my feelings hurt not because he lost gold, but because of the way he lost it and because of his actual situation. Thank you.

But what situation? So far I've seen nothing but pure speculation based a couple of phrases from Brian. It has been discussed so much that is being regarded as if it were true already. Has Yuzu said he's uncomfortable at TCC? Has he said he's planning on leaving? We all said so many positive things about TCC throughout the season and now none of it is true? Based on what argument? Solid argument, no speculating. The fact that Brian knows Javier better than Yuzu doesn't mean he doesn't care about Yuzu. It doesn't mean he's playing favorites. As much as he's said favorable things about Javier, he has said a lot of positive things about Yuzu, too.

I for one can tell you, for sure that Yuzuru is very thankful to the TCC, because that's what he said right after his SP at NHK. The video was shared here when it happened.

 

[hamaguri]

We don't know that Brian didn't. We lack the information to make any sort of evaluation of the quality of their relationship. I understand concern. I am concerned. We all want Yuzu to be happy (and to win) but our speculation about his relationship with Brian and the Cricket Club is going nowhere. I'm pretty sure that if Yuzu feels he is not getting what he needs, he'll go elsewhere. As it is, Brian is doing his best and Yuzu posted bigger scores this year than ever before. The imperfect skate he did at Worlds reflects a need to improve in areas which Yuzu and his team are well aware of now. They will be working on that next, just like they worked on his skating skills, his stamina, his jump-layout, and his polish and posture.

I'm not saying that Brian is perfect or that he may not have gotten the balance between Yuzu and Javi wrong this time. But that with all the imperfections that the situation has right now, the team works in a way that no other team works for any other coach and students anywhere in the world.

-Yuzu and Javi are the BEST IN THE WORLD and a lot of it is due to their training situation at the cricket club. Faults and all.
If this stops being ideal for Yuzu, he's not a victim to sit around letting a bad situation continue. He'll make a change if he needs it. Until then, he's in Toronto, getting ready for next season. -So Goo Yuzu!

Thanks spec. Reading this, my heart is calming down gradually. I was so shocked at Brian’s reaction this time and what they’ve done for 4 years were a bit out of my mind. They have tackled various challenges and got over them and achieved many. And now, the new issue raises. Whether they keep their relationship or not, it’s all up to yuzu and we can trust in his choice. If they keep, they’ll make a suitable effort for that issue like until now. That’s all.
(I feel ashamed to have been a bit emotional… :hslap

 

[giulia95]

But what situation? So far I've seen nothing but pure speculation based a couple of phrases from Brian. It has been discussed so much that is being regarded as if it were true already. Has Yuzu said he's uncomfortable at TCC? Has he said he's planning on leaving? We all said so many positive things about TCC throughout the season and now none of it is true? Based on what argument? Solid argument, no speculating. The fact that Brian knows Javier better than Yuzu doesn't mean he doesn't care about Yuzu. It doesn't mean he's playing favorites. As much as he's said favorable things about Javier, he has said a lot of positive things about Yuzu, too.

I for one can tell you, for sure that Yuzuru is very thankful to the TCC, because that's what he said right after his SP at NHK. The video was shared here when it happened.

Just different opinions from Borser's fans. I accept yours civilly , respectfully disagree and keep supporting Yuzu.

 

[Interspectator]

Thanks spec. Reading this, my heart is calming down gradually. I was so shocked at Brian’s reaction this time and what they’ve done for 4 years were a bit out of my mind. They have tackled various challenges and got over them and achieved many. And now, the new issue raises. Whether they keep their relationship or not, it’s all up to yuzu and we can trust in his choice. If they keep, they’ll make a suitable effort for that issue like until now. That’s all.
(I feel ashamed to have been a bit emotional… :hslap

He makes people feel very strongly for him. When he skates, it is to me, ideal skating.
Watching his Exhibition at worlds was a soothing balm to my heart. He still loves to skate and as long as he loves it he will continue to be great.

And I'd like to thank all the posters here, even when we don't agree, we all post because we really enjoy his skating and want to see him succeed. We can agree on that.

Sharing our hopes and joy and frustration on this board helps us through the tough times and makes the good times better.

 

[Marin]

My concern is... I think TCC is the best place he can be for technical support. I'm not sure anymore is the best place for emotional support too.
And I hate I've even this kind of doubt, I highly doubt he will leaveTCC as long as the situation is manageable. He knows technical support he can get there is not something he can get elsewhere too But I don't want him to stay in a place where emotionally something is off. Of this can also be just bull$$$$ ..Only he himself and Brian know how things are, But for first time I felt like something was off and I didn't like it one bit. I don't know who decided abt Yuzu going back to Toronto now
But I guess main reason is to analyse what happened,Yuzu needs to understand what happened. But I think Brian needs to. Hopefully everything will be fine.

 

[alia jackson]

This past week is a challenge not only for Yuzu but also us the fans who love him very much...

Let's take 15seconds to close our eyes and take a few deep breath.....

.....and then watch Yuzu gorgeous exhibition skate dedicated for 311 which shows us that through the many difficulties and challenges Yuzu can repeatedly rise up, every time to become stronger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgQLeHAhkDc

 

[PatricksGaze]

Thanks sorrent. I understand what you said. But one thing, Brian himself said after the competition, “yuzu was nervous since his official practice. It was difficult to take care of both two at the same time.” It’s no wonder someone who listen to think that Brian took care of Javi more at that time before FP? Further, yuzu was also injured and in the mess. Why Brian didn't something more to ease yuzu’s mind? It’s a role of a coarch?

Do you seriously think Yuzu suffered from injury during the competition itself? He hella practiced like a monster, jumping here and there in great condition.

 

[Meoima]

You know what... Yuna left Orser after 4 years working with him. And Yuzuru also has worked with him for around 4 years. Just saying...
Personally I can understand why Orser prefer Javi because he is more easy going and he has been there before Yuzuru. I don't blame Orser for that if it's so because it's normal.
But the way he is doing PR, the way he tells the press about Yuzuru, then Javi... I think he doesn't handle well the situation.
What if Yuzuru and his family are as sensitive as Yuna was? Just image. I feel bad for Yuzuru if his emotional state is hurt for long after this.

 

[giulia95]

Do you seriously think Yuzu suffered from injury during the competition itself? He hella practiced like a monster, jumping here and there in great condition.

Yuzu wanted to keep the injury private, His coach spoke to the press about it.

JSF announced what it seems to be a last minute change of plan due to the injury.

previously Yuzu stated he prefers to be cured in Japan. He said he feel lonely , but actually stays away from his family. A mystery.

 

[Sorrento]

Thanks sorrent. I understand what you said. But one thing, Brian himself said after the competition, “yuzu was nervous since his official practice. It was difficult to take care of both two at the same time.” It’s no wonder someone who listen to think that Brian took care of Javi more at that time before FP? Further, yuzu was also injured and in the mess. Why Brian didn't something more to ease yuzu’s mind? It’s a role of a coarch?

If Brian said it was hard then I believe him. It is hard. So there is a need to discuss this situation among them and take necessary steps to avoid any misunderstanding in future. Yuzu is not that open, he keeps a lot to himself. So it's not Brian's fault that he couldn't help Yuzu to the extend he must have needed to. I also think that Yuzu is polite and kind and he needs to work on this dilemma: first he has to let himself be more demanding towards Brian when he thinks he needs more attention from him. Come forward and show his need. Second- some feelings are really hard to describe when you can't find the right words, right. Either they hire a part-time interpreter or Yuzu adresses a specialist who can help him to deal with stress. If Brian's methods don't work- it's not the end of the world, someone else could step in too. Coaches cannot deal with all the aspects of pshycological issues that may arise with athletes during their career. Especially when an athlete does not feel like sharing everything that bothers him or her. It's a very delicate issue. I wouldn't blame anyone. They need to discuss the issue and take necessary action to prevent this in the future.
Also- injures happen at the top level a lot. It would be very unethical to put a blame on anyone.

 

[Diahpam]

I like to match theme for each of yuzu's season
So far :
...-2011 = building foundation
2011-2012= the momentum, yuzu do have BIG potential to reach the top
2012-2013 = potential, gift alkne is not enough. painfully, bitterly re-building foundation
2013-2014 = payback time. Also, 2014 oly fs remind us to never give up even if he situation is unlikely. If you do your best, even if its not enough god will make it enough for you.
2014-2015= expensive lesson. Health is the most important afterall
2015-2016 = heaven and hell, more expensive lesson. Mental balance and how to face tremendeous pressure whitout became insane

Seeing this theme, i amazed on how yuzu has gone through all these time, all the experiences are indeed very valuable. Now yuzu has the talent, fighting spirit, skill, stamina, awareness on his health. Now is to build his awareness to his mental balance and how to protect it. Each time he became better and better and became closer to what he aspire : the ultimate king . I wonder when he overcomes this season 'wall' and next walls,what kind of yuzu we would see. Even more perfect than before! I can 't imagine that! Ganbatte yuzu!!

 

[Sorrento]

Do you seriously think Yuzu suffered from injury during the competition itself? He hella practiced like a monster, jumping here and there in great condition.

He's a samurai. He hella always practices like that.

 

[sallycinnamon]

I have mad respect for Brian Orser's achievements as a coach in the last ten years. However the only thing he is not the best at is the PR. Remember when he announced Yuna's two programs for the 2010/2011 season which was one of the reasons why Yuna left Orser.
I understand that it must be very difficult to handle differences in the TCC: he is Canadian who trains the two most successfull male skaters of today, a Japanese and a Spaniard. Yuzu's team and his family may percept things in a different way than Javier or Brian, and he (or his team) may be more sensitive about things than Javier.

 

[Marin]

If Brian said it was hard then I believe him. It is hard. So there is a need to discuss this situation among them and take necessary steps to avoid any misunderstanding in future. Yuzu is not that open, he keeps a lot to himself. So it's not Brian's fault that he couldn't help Yuzu to the extend he must have needed to. I also think that Yuzu is polite and kind and he needs to work on this dilemma: first he has to let himself be more demanding towards Brian when he thinks he needs more attention from him. Come forward and show his need. Second- some feelings are really hard to describe when you can't find the right words, right. Either they hire a part-time interpreter or Yuzu adresses a specialist who can help him to deal with stress. If Brian's methods don't work- it's not the end of the world, someone else could step in too. Coaches cannot deal with all the aspects of pshycological issues that may arise with athletes during their career. Especially when an athlete does not feel like sharing everything that bothers him or her. It's a very delicate issue. I wouldn't blame anyone. They need to discuss the issue and take necessary action to prevent this in the future.
Also- injures happen at the top level a lot. It would be very unethical to put a blame on anyone.

I remember when TAT couldn't manage Yagudin's psychological issues alone they hired Rudolf Zaiganov to deal with the pressure of Olympic year so , it is possible . And then again: only they know what is happening.

 

[Fayruza]

Oh the number of mountain ranges that get made of molehills over here... Will this last until next season, I wonder?

 

[Madness-Overload]

I have mad respect for Brian Orser's achievements as a coach in the last ten years. However the only thing he is not the best at is the PR. Remember when he announced Yuna's two programs for the 2010/2011 season which was one of the reasons why Yuna left Orser.
I understand that it must be very difficult to handle differences in the TCC: he is Canadian who trains the two most successfull male skaters of today, a Japanese and a Spaniard. Yuzu's team and his family may percept things in a different way than Javier or Brian, and he (or his team) may be more sensitive about things than Javier.

This, Brian has never been good at PR, it was even worst after Yuna left him.

Yuzuru is grown and very mature so he will always make the right decision when it comes to his skating, after all he said he would go anywhere and do everything for skating. We dont know the situation at TCC but I know Yuzuru is very grateful to Brian and his team, Im not always team brian but I am very grateful for what his done for Yuzuru as well. Lets hope that whatever is happening can be solved. I think since we all care about Yuzuru so much is logical that we will have strong reactions when we talk about him.

Him saying he feels lonely makes me feel sad though.

 

[Interspectator]

Oh the number of mountain ranges that get made of molehills over here... Will this last until next season, I wonder?

There will be shows...and then all will be well. -2 months? We'll see.

 

[hamaguri]

He makes people feel very strongly for him. When he skates, it is to me, ideal skating.
Watching his Exhibition at worlds was a soothing balm to my heart. He still loves to skate and as long as he loves it he will continue to be great.

And I'd like to thank all the posters here, even when we don't agree, we all post because we really enjoy his skating and want to see him succeed. We can agree on that.

Sharing our hopes and joy and frustration on this board helps us through the tough times and makes the good times better.

Thanks spec. yesterday I watched Requiem and my heart was washed up, but this morning, my heart again went to a mess..
Yes, I always his skating is based on his love for skate. And after the competition, seeing his interviews or so, I can reconfirm his fierce love for skate and the love gets stronger. I was so glad. And yes, as long as he has this mind, he shall be all right.

Sharing our views, although they are different with each other from time to time, their base is love for yuzu, his skating. That’s certain. And i think that we can have some time here is happy thing. For some time recently, my health went bad, so I could rarely comment here. When I came back, I was so happy. We may have already had much blessing that we don’t realize. About yuzu, he lives, he smiles, he has no big injury, he has the future… All our sad and joy for yuzu is because he can get skating and competing (although I keep supporting him also after his retirement, he loves competitions more than else!) (Oh, I lost myself writing this. I cannot do well like you..)