Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[Danibellerika]

Well for worlds they don't have other events like short track to share the rink with. But it doesn't matter. Never understand why they don't just alternate men with another field and why does it have to be back-to back. I think the Men's event is the earlier event after team event too, so it will be much more tiring for them. Considering they all are doing hundreds of quads today, it will be quite a task for the Olympics. And the top 6 guys sans Javier all will likely skate at the team event too.
It's not like they are not used to do back-to-back event, for GP there is a chance it will be back-to-back I think. But Olympic it will be team event - a day off- SP- FS. Talking about tiring. There is a one-day gap for the last field, but I think it is for the ladies? I am not sure need to recheck (if yes, why not just give it to the men sigh)

I don't get this logic either and I'm surprised no one advocated for a schedule change. I am expecting a war of attrition. Still, it's a bucket list item for me and no better time to go than when I can see my favorite skater in action. Also doesn't hurt that he already has one of those babies and that's a forever kind of thing.

 

[mcq]

I don't get this logic either and I'm surprised no one advocated for a schedule change. I am expecting a war of attrition. Still, it's a bucket list item for me and no better time to go than when I can see my favorite skater in action. Also doesn't hurt that he already has one of those babies and that's a forever kind of thing.

I know right? Many skaters (including Yuzu) has been trained to have this one-day off as their cool-down pattern relating to peaking too, and it is working well for Yuzu particularly at worlds this year. But now they have to change it so that he can peak and be in top form for 2 days straight, while the GP events and GPF will likely have a day-off. If he is going for team event (I assume in SP), he would need to be in peak form for almost 1 week. :hopelessness:

 

[Pamigena]

Are we now pretending that the Olympics are about sports and athletes and not about money and politics? OK. (sorry. I'm actually asleep. The most cynical part of me just briefly woke up and demanded to post something. Going back to sleep now.)

 

[fishheadanon]

Doesn't that ridiculous schedule has to do with the preferred TV broadcasting schedule of some bigwig American tv network? It's not like they would suddenly learn to not treat athletes as playthings so that they can earn more money. There is like 0 chance of Japan getting a medal in team event anyway, I wouldn't put a single bit of effort in team event SP if I were him but unfortunately...

sorry I'm cynical too ok off to do some real work...

 

[itiahs]

Are we now pretending that the Olympics are about sports and athletes and not about money and politics? OK. (sorry. I'm actually asleep. The most cynical part of me just briefly woke up and demanded to post something. Going back to sleep now.)

Doesn't that ridiculous schedule has to do with the preferred TV broadcasting schedule of some bigwig American tv network? It's not like they would suddenly learn to not treat athletes as playthings so that they can earn more money. There is like 0 chance of Japan getting a medal in team event anyway, I wouldn't put a single bit of effort in team event SP if I were him but unfortunately...

sorry I'm cynical too ok off to do some real work...

I'm just as cynical as you all about the Olympics (I'm even pessimistic about how much longer the olympics can continue looking at current world events), but the internalized yuzuru quotes part of me says doesn't it make it even more of an accomplishment to win the damn thing under all those circumstances? He likes challenges...

 

[mcq]

Doesn't that ridiculous schedule has to do with the preferred TV broadcasting schedule of some bigwig American tv network? It's not like they would suddenly learn to not treat athletes as playthings so that they can earn more money. There is like 0 chance of Japan getting a medal in team event anyway, I wouldn't put a single bit of effort in team event SP if I were him but unfortunately...

sorry I'm cynical too ok off to do some real work...

The morning schedule might have to do with them. But alternating event carried 0 effort in my opinion and it will not disrupt the primetime broadcast schedule. I meant something like Men SP - Ladies SP - Men FS - Ladies FS. So everyone has a good day rest instead of Men SP-Men FS- Ladies SP-Ladies FS. I am just curious about their reasoning of doing these too, there must be a reason, unless they are just clueless.

 

[sallycinnamon]

Well for worlds they don't have other events like short track to share the rink with. But it doesn't matter. Never understand why they don't just alternate men with another field and why does it have to be back-to back. I think the Men's event is the earlier event after team event too, so it will be much more tiring for them. Considering they all are doing hundreds of quads today, it will be quite a task for the Olympics. And the top 6 guys sans Javier all will likely skate at the team event too.
It's not like they are not used to do back-to-back event, for GP there is a chance it will be back-to-back I think. But Olympic it will be team event - a day off- SP- FS. Talking about tiring. There is a one-day gap for the last field, but I think it is for the ladies? I am not sure need to recheck (if yes, why not just give it to the men sigh)

Not sure if it's accurate what I write here because the only detailed schedule I found was updated a year ago. So it looks like this:
Team Event:
9 Febr. Team Event Men's SP
12 Febr Men's FS (+medal ceremony),

Singles Event:
16th Febr Men's SP
17th Men's FS

So if Yuzuru will skate the SP then he will have 6 days off between the Team and the Singles Event, similar as it was in Sochi.
(and yes, the ladies will have a day off in the Singles Event, they are the only ones)

Doesn't that ridiculous schedule has to do with the preferred TV broadcasting schedule of some bigwig American tv network? It's not like they would suddenly learn to not treat athletes as playthings so that they can earn more money. There is like 0 chance of Japan getting a medal in team event anyway, I wouldn't put a single bit of effort in team event SP if I were him but unfortunately...

sorry I'm cynical too ok off to do some real work...

Yuzu mentioned it today, too.

 

[mcq]

Not sure if it's accurate what I write here because the only detailed schedule I found was updated a year ago. So it looks like this:
Team Event:
9 Febr. Team Event Men's SP
12 Febr Men's FS (+medal ceremony),

Singles Event:
16th Febr Men's SP
17th Men's FS

So if Yuzuru will skate the SP then he will have 6 days off between the Team and the Singles Event, similar as it was in Sochi.
(and yes, the ladies will have a day off in the Singles Event, they are the only ones)

Ah thanks, so the men is not right after the team event, isn't it? So at least there should be enough rest in between. I think it should be accurate since they are already selling the ticket. I doubt they will change it? I saw many complaints even for Sochi about lack of day-off between SP and FS, so I thought they are learning something for it (especially since the men's event was a disaster). Apparently they were not since the schedule was exactly the same lol.

ETA : I am just wondering, is there an olympic village too in gangneung or is it only in Pyeongchang?

 

[beki]

I never understand why Olympics have to separate each event. Why not just alternate it with the ladies or pairs or ID so that everybody have at least a good day rest between SP and FS. And they wonder why all the men bombed at Sochi

Exactly. It's infuriating, and there's the risk of another splatfest. At least forewarned is forearmed.

 

[beki]

Doesn't that ridiculous schedule has to do with the preferred TV broadcasting schedule of some bigwig American tv network? It's not like they would suddenly learn to not treat athletes as playthings so that they can earn more money. There is like 0 chance of Japan getting a medal in team event anyway, I wouldn't put a single bit of effort in team event SP if I were him but unfortunately...

sorry I'm cynical too ok off to do some real work...

As an American, I don't understand why we attempt to dictate everything, especially in a sport where we are flirting with irrelevance. Some parts of our national character I really dislike. American exceptionalism, fixation with being "the greatest nation on earth"

I'm just as cynical as you all about the Olympics (I'm even pessimistic about how much longer the olympics can continue looking at current world events), but the internalized yuzuru quotes part of me says doesn't it make it even more of an accomplishment to win the damn thing under all those circumstances? He likes challenges...

I love the Olympic values. If only we lived up to them... Despite the corruption and geopolitical uncertainty, I think it would be tragic if we didn't attempt to come together in this way.

 

[sallycinnamon]

Ah thanks, so the men is not right after the team event, isn't it? So at least there should be enough rest in between. I think it should be accurate since they are already selling the ticket. I doubt they will change it? I saw many complaints even for Sochi about lack of day-off between SP and FS, so I thought they are learning something for it (especially since the men's event was a disaster). Apparently they were not since the schedule was exactly the same lol.

ETA : I am just wondering, is there an olympic village too in gangneung or is it only in Pyeongchang?

Pairs will compete right after the Team Event, so it is not too bad for Yuzuru. He could test the ice conditions and rink in the Team SP (maybe LP), and then have a couple of days rest until the Singles Event.
I would also think the schedule is the same as it was a year ago, but on the official site I couldn't find the detailed program, only the days of competitions and medal ceremonies. It looks like the medal ceremony will be on the same day as the free skate/free dance.

 

[itiahs]

I uploaded cosport's schedule of events to drive.

ETA: so both the hardest discipline (pairs) and men's don't have a day of rest :noshake:

 

[Danibellerika]

As an American, I don't understand why we attempt to dictate everything, especially in a sport where we are flirting with irrelevance. Some parts of our national character I really dislike. American exceptionalism, fixation with being "the greatest nation on earth"



I love the Olympic values. If only we lived up to them... Despite the corruption and geopolitical uncertainty, I think it would be tragic if we didn't attempt to come together in this way.

Here here to that. And it's not like it helps our own horses in the race because this inconveniences them too! And yea, it's sad that skating is going downhill and honestly even if Chen is the great white hope he won't have the same effect as a new ice princess would have. Evan Lysacek didn't. Skating just isn't appreciated here if there isn't a leading lady because of the nature of the sport. It's generally not considered as manly as the more popular sports like football, basketball, baseball, etc. Davis & White won the olympics and that's done nothing to help anything in the US. If only they could enjoy the champion perks like Yuzu did/is.

 

[narcissa]

Here here to that. And it's not like it helps our own horses in the race because this inconveniences them too! And yea, it's sad that skating is going downhill and honestly even if Chen is the great white hope he won't have the same effect as a new ice princess would have. Evan Lysacek didn't. Skating just isn't appreciated here if there isn't a leading lady because of the nature of the sport. It's generally not considered as manly as the more popular sports like football, basketball, baseball, etc. Davis & White won the olympics and that's done nothing to help anything in the US. If only they could enjoy the champion perks like Yuzu did/is.

Well Yuzu is special and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Yuzuru Hanyu fans in the US than fans of...well, US men's skaters I feel like it's a once in a decade? century? thing to have someone as mediagenic as Yuzu and it's not just about winning medals, IMO (although that certainly helps )

 

[beki]

Here here to that. And it's not like it helps our own horses in the race because this inconveniences them too! And yea, it's sad that skating is going downhill and honestly even if Chen is the great white hope he won't have the same effect as a new ice princess would have. Evan Lysacek didn't. Skating just isn't appreciated here if there isn't a leading lady because of the nature of the sport. It's generally not considered as manly as the more popular sports like football, basketball, baseball, etc. Davis & White won the olympics and that's done nothing to help anything in the US. If only they could enjoy the champion perks like Yuzu did/is.

topic:
I was just thinking about Evan Lysacek. I think Johnny Weir has more of a legacy than he does. As an influence on our beloved Yuzu, for one. Sure, the skating situation in the US is bad, but part of it is on Evan. Either he didn't try much to have an impact past competition, and/or he didn't have the personality. A lot of skaters will be more remembered. Stephane, Dai, Jeff.

The USFSA is botching promoting ice dance. They can't get past it being a hard sell. But above all, Americans love winners. And we rock at ice dance. To me the USFSA is made of fail. Instead of growing the sport, they'll focus more on sabotaging Yuzu or Evgenia.

 

[Danibellerika]

Well Yuzu is special and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Yuzuru Hanyu fans in the US than fans of...well, US men's skaters I feel like it's a once in a decade? century? thing to have someone as mediagenic as Yuzu and it's not just about winning medals, IMO (although that certainly helps )

I don't know the last time there has been this much fanfare for a male skater, but I do think on the female side Kwan and Yuna and Mao rival him a bit for anything like it over the past few decades. Not sure how many Kwan or Yuna fans followed them all over the world to their competitions though. And of course I think having a mascott like Pooh helps a lot too. And yes, he has an infectious personality along with his amazing skating abilities. That goes without saying but I don't mind saying it .

 

[narcissa]

topic:
I was just thinking about Evan Lysacek. I think Johnny Weir has more of a legacy than he does. As an influence on our beloved Yuzu, for one. Sure, the skating situation in the US is bad, but part of it is on Evan. Either he didn't try much to have an impact past competition, and/or he didn't have the personality. A lot of skaters will be more remembered. Stephane, Dai, Jeff.

The USFSA is botching promoting ice dance. They can't get past it being a hard sell. But above all, Americans love winners. And we rock at ice dance. To me the USFSA is made of fail. Instead of growing the sport, they'll focus more on sabotaging Yuzu or Evgenia.

Ice dancing is a hard sell, though. It's hard for the public to really get behind a sport where they most likely will have no idea how it's scored. At least with figure skating, you can reasonably say that falls are bad and triples are harder than doubles. That's not too hard to understand. But levels of step sequences? It'll be easier to sell ice dancing as an art like ballet than a sport...

 

[xeyra]

Ice dancing is a hard sell, though. It's hard for the public to really get behind a sport where they most likely will have no idea how it's scored. At least with figure skating, you can reasonably say that falls are bad and triples are harder than doubles. That's not too hard to understand. But levels of step sequences? It'll be easier to sell ice dancing as an art like ballet than a sport...

Maybe that's why I haven't really been interested in Ice Dance so much. I mean, I love dancing and I guess I could try and watch it as just dancing, but it's kind of hard to ignore that it's a sport being scored and since I can't understand what is being scored I just tend to... not watch it so much?

 

[alia jackson]

English sub of news reports and Oda comments on Yuzu's World 2017 performance.


Part 1 translation of Yuzu & Shizuka talk at Sendai Monument ceremony

 

[YuzusHydroblade]

So... Work in progress because i just finished one hand.
This is my way to saying goodbye to Notte Stellata.
With flash so you see the gory details
Without flash and blurry so you can see that yes, that is glitter.
Individually placed glitter. I should add that i am right handed and that is my right hand.
Yes, i have a problem.