Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[beki]

If i ever had the opportunity to skate there, thanks to some freak twist of fate (whatever the status of the rword) it will probably go like this:
I would look around with the biggest smile ever, skate around a bit and five minutes later i would turn into a sad ball of a person crying my heart out

We can't have you turn into a puddle on the ice—too dangerous You'll screw up Gabby's combo

 

[mcq]

Sometimes I want to move to Toronto and become an adult skater there. And not to be a total stalker—I'd do it even after the r*word—just because I like the vibe. "A family oriented private dining and sports Club. Cricket, Skating, Curling, Aquatics, Tennis, Squash, Croquet, Lawn Bowling and Health & Fitness." Aww. Croquet is fun too yo

The adult skating is scheduled at night (pretty late) or morning, while senior competitive singles is usually in the afternoon. I think if you can land 2 type of triples consistently you can actually join the senior competitive singles (elite)

Anyway they have both spring and summer camp and all level of skaters could join. Not sure if they will hold both at olympic season though, or even at all.
This is the 2014 brochure while this is the 2015 one. It is actually not that expensive, kind of similar to dance classes and it is full 8-week course.

ETA : you don't have to pay full membership fee for summer camp, just temporary fee but you can't use some other facilities there like swimming pool etc. Many skaters went there, like lea johanna dastich, wakaba higuchi, etc and they are not TCC regulars/member

 

[liv]

Sometimes I want to move to Toronto and become an adult skater there. And not to be a total stalker—I'd do it even after the r*word—just because I like the vibe. "A family oriented private dining and sports Club. Cricket, Skating, Curling, Aquatics, Tennis, Squash, Croquet, Lawn Bowling and Health & Fitness." Aww. Croquet is fun too yo

Haha. It's known for being an expensive private club around town, lol. Anyway, it's still family oriented. .... just "rich" family oriented, lol.

LOL. So I went back to watch the Autumn classic H&L performance... what a difference 6 months can make Seeing how he was then vs now... , you can see how much the 2 months off took from him... really makes you respect his achievements even more... Yes, I know everyone is rough that time of year, but everything looked so hard for him then... wow.

 

[mcq]

Haha. It's known for being an expensive private club around town, lol. Anyway, it's still family oriented. .... just "rich" family oriented, lol.

LOL. So I went back to watch the Autumn classic H&L performance... what a difference 6 months can make Seeing how he was then vs now... , you can see how much the 2 months off took from him... really makes you respect his achievements even more... Yes, I know everyone is rough that time of year, but everything looked so hard for him then... wow.

I am actually wondering if the 2-3 months off-ice actually benefits him, because his peak shifted 3-4 months from GPF.

 

[liv]

I am actually wondering if the 2-3 months off-ice actually benefits him, because his peak shifted 3-4 months from GPF.

Maybe it did, but try keeping him off the ice for that long again without an injury, lol. That's like keeping a wave upon the sand ( to quote The Sound of Music). I hope he is resting a bit right now... Bodies need a break, even if the heart is willing.

 

[jobori1989]

topic: Hi everyone, Have you seen the latest article about Yuzuru (The Japan Times)? It seems that he is planning a 5-quad layout next season for the FS (the same layout he did at the WTT) with the 4Toe-lo-3Sal instead of the 3A-lo-3Sal. He mentioned neither the 4Lutz nor the 4Axel.
I don't think it is very smart (well it is better than no change), but this would increase BV by almost 4.5 points only assuming there is a YOLO 3A at the end.
The 4lutz does not look ready to me either (he landed 1 out of many attempts).
Brian is not a fan of a new quad either in an Olympic season (it is risky).
What did Yuzuru say in that tv interview about the 4Axel (I'm sorry I don't understand Japanese)?
I think Yuzu can win with the current layout but he has to do everything perfectly (+GOE) or be technically superior to the other skaters (Learn from Yuna's mistake, give the judges no excuse).
I would like to know what you think....

 

[mcq]

Maybe it did, but try keeping him off the ice for that long again without an injury, lol. That's like keeping a wave upon the sand ( to quote The Sound of Music). I hope he is resting a bit right now... Bodies need a break, even if the heart is willing.

Well, Javi is already at TCC working on a new program. If Yuzu does join FaOI it will start at May 26th and he would be in japan again likely 2-3 days before that, at the very least. He should be back in Toronto next week the latest, so there should be a bit of a rest but not longer than that. I won't be surprised if Yuzuru is somehow already there at TCC. Buttle is doing SOI, so I heard, so maybe he can't work with him this week? He'll be at FaOI too. But Shae-Lynn should be available. I agree though, I wish he will just rest lol it helped him last season. But because it is olympics and the kuyashii feeling from WTT maybe would prevent him from doing so

topic: Hi everyone, Have you seen the latest article about Yuzuru (The Japan Times)? It seems that he is planning a 5-quad layout next season for the FS (the same layout he did at the WTT) with the 4Toe-lo-3Sal instead of the 3A-lo-3Sal. He mentioned neither the 4Lutz nor the 4Axel.
I don't think it is very smart (well it is better than no change), but this would increase BV by almost 4.5 points only assuming there is a YOLO 3A at the end.
The 4lutz does not look ready to me either (he landed 1 out of many attempts).
Brian is not a fan of a new quad either in an Olympic season (it is risky).
What did Yuzuru say in that tv interview about the 4Axel (I'm sorry I don't understand Japanese)?
I think Yuzu can win with the current layout but he has to do everything perfectly (+GOE) or be technically superior to the other skaters (Learn from Yuna's mistake, give the judges no excuse).
I would like to know what you think....

I read that article, but I think I read and interpret it differently. He said he thought of doing 5 quads for his skate at WTT because of his SP, and that he knew he is capable of doing that + 3 quad in the free skate at second half. He actually mentioned nothing about wanting to do 5-quad next season. Nothing certain/specific about his plan for olympic season layout too (beside not going to add 4Lz at that tv interview).

Anyway I am never a fan of gallagher's writing, though he is generally complimentary to Yuzuru. Gallagher rarely do interviews by himself and just interpret/translate/rewrite article/interview from other japanese news into english. He even quoted what other commentators said in TV broadcast (like BESP guys) or even quote things from the skating lesson (lol, I know right).
Correct me if I am wrong but once he quoted someone from goldenskate too? or not? or was it a different person and I am just imagining things.
He wrote an article about how Mao should move to Orser (like I meant, really). I think you should take what he wrote in articles with a grain of salt and not as facts and just search for the primary news source rather than his rewritten article, actually.

 

[liv]

My opinion is that it is still April, and we have no idea what summer training will bring... the one thing I do know, plans change.

 

[liv]

Well, Javi is already at TCC working on a new program. If Yuzu does join FaOI it will start at May 26th and he would be in japan again likely 2-3 days before that, at the very least. He should be back in Toronto next week the latest, so there should be a bit of a rest but not longer than that. I won't be surprised if Yuzuru is somehow already there at TCC. Buttle is doing SOI, so I heard, so maybe he can't work with him this week? He'll be at FaOI too. But Shae-Lynn should be available. I agree though, I wish he will just rest lol it helped him last season. But because it is olympics and the kuyashii feeling from WTT maybe would prevent him from doing so

Yes, I had the same thoughts with regards to possible timeline in Toronto and choreography. I was giving him another week ( he should come now, we are having really nice weather right now, lol) before coming, but if he has music ideas he might want to discuss with Brian and Shae first. He (like so many skaters), might be really eager to get started.

 

[jobori1989]

I read that article, but I think I read and interpret it differently. He said he thought of doing 5 quads for his skate at WTT because of his SP, and that he knew he is capable of doing that + 3 quad in the free skate at second half. He actually mentioned nothing about wanting to do 5-quad next season. Nothing certain/specific about his plan for olympic season layout too (beside not going to add 4Lz at that tv interview).

Anyway I am never a fan of gallagher's writing, though he is generally complimentary to Yuzuru. Gallagher rarely do interviews by himself and just interpret/translate/rewrite article/interview from other japanese news into english. He even quoted what other commentators said in TV broadcast (like BESP guys) or even quote things from the skating lesson (lol, I know right).
Correct me if I am wrong but once he quoted someone from goldenskate too? or not? or was it a different person and I am just imagining things.
He wrote an article about how Mao should move to Orser (like I meant, really). I think you should take what he wrote in articles with a grain of salt and not as facts and just search for the primary news source rather than his rewritten article, actually.

Oh Yes, I know he didn't say that specifically but I just sensed it when he said "I do still want to think about it". Anyway he can still be creative and pull off different combos. I just feel that a 5th quad is his only option if there is no 4Lutz.

I am not familiar with the writer, I thought he was legit since he is writing for the Japan Times. Did you say he quoted skating lesson before (God help us all )

Thank you for the information

 

[mcq]

Oh Yes, I know he didn't say that specifically but I just sensed it when he said "I do still want to think about it". Anyway he can still be creative and pull off different combos. I just feel that a 5th quad is his only option if there is no 4Lutz.

I am not familiar with the writer, I thought he was legit since he is writing for the Japan Times. Did you say he quoted skating lesson before (God help us all )

Thank you for the information

It's not that he is not legit, he quoted and cited his sources well. But I often find him misleading, like for example he would write a narrative that might misled people and make people misunderstand. He wrote opinion articles too which I think just didn't make sense (he sometimes would mix in his own opinion too in article, which is not wrong, but sometimes it mislead people in thinking his opinion = facts). But he is not the only journalist who has done so, so nothing extraordinary here.

Like after Mao struggled this season he wrote an article about how Mao should "get it together and make a drastic change" or quit. He wrote an essay about it and suggested the best thing for her to do is to go to Brian orser (lol), without realizing Orser already had his hands full with 4 students as a main coach (Yuzu, Javi , Bet, Jun Hwan) and co-coach (Gabby, Alaine etc). He would not have time to give Mao the help and attention she needed and a quick fix. As great as he is, his coaching style is not for everyone.

I think in GS majority has known this, but he still provide a summary of recent events/happenings in figure skating world quite regularly in english. One of the very few who does this in english extensively and resumes stuff, so people (even myself) would always read his article just to catch up. I just read more carefully and selectively to make sure I got the facts right and escape his narrative and opinion. Anyway he is actually nice to Yuzuru (generally from what I see), but often quite harsh on Mao and some other Japanese skaters.

ETA : For Yuzuru, just wait for OP. Last season he said he does not plan to add 4Lo and didn't want to include it in program because the quality was not there, we knew how it turned out. Will not be the first time he said A but end up doing B. People changes his/her mind all the time, nothing weird with that. He changed his demeanor about retiring too, recently. What I believe is the layout he chose would be the hardest one that he is capable to pull off. If there is no 4Lz, I'll just assume the quality and consistency is really not there by the end of summer practice

 

[Hanmgse]

yep. pretty sure it's a screen shot from TOI

Awww TOI aka boys skating show . I want another Yuzuru ice show in the future please

 

[Danibellerika]

It was gross candy covered with licorice, lol.

We tried it. Sorry lake gods.

I had a lollipop that was licorice on the top half, and fruity flavored on the bottom half. And it was nasty. I tried to bite off the licorice parts and ended up biting through all of it and then there was some brown powdery substance in the middle It was even MORE gross. I don't know what that was but I'm not used to anything being at the center of my lollis but gum or a tootsie roll. I have another lolli in a different flavor but I don't want to touch it. Give me those Geisha chocolates with the hazelnuts any day....

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I like this page! It even translates to english really well. I will say it's wonderful seeing how many Russian fans Yuzu has! So cool! They sound like us in here!

Interesting, I'll have to go back and look at your reasons. I've been a fan since the legendary RJ1 in Nice. And I rooted for him over Chan for the Olys. But I think I'm only an uber in the past two seasons. My appreciation was always there, but grew gradually more intense over many years, as he matured and improved. As he came closer to his ideal, which is also my ideal. That's when I realized he is a rare genius.

I noticed him late 2013 and rooted for him to win over Chan. He was just so fresh to me. And then he won and I wasn't paying attention to skating. I didn't really know what was up until I heard about the CoC incident and I remember feeling so horrible. Like, worse than I normally would, especially since I hadn't really followed anything going on with him since Sochi. I was actually really surprised of his attendance because Oly champs usually don't do the season right after winning. That impressed me. And then I assumed he would be out for a while but I paid attention for GPF. And then I paid attention for Worlds. And then Seimei season happened and I've been all in since since then.

judging by that TV appearance, it seem Yuzu more confident with 4A than 4lz, is that even possible? the way he say "hmm...it seem I can jump that" even tho the lady not so sure

I'm a few pages back late, but if Shoma meet Nate at SA, the chance his jumps may get calls is quite a big, maybe SA will treat his Tech the same way SC treated Yuzu PCS.

Wouldn't something like that depend on the caller, not the location?

I am actually wondering if the 2-3 months off-ice actually benefits him, because his peak shifted 3-4 months from GPF.

Maybe it did, but try keeping him off the ice for that long again without an injury, lol. That's like keeping a wave upon the sand ( to quote The Sound of Music). I hope he is resting a bit right now... Bodies need a break, even if the heart is willing.

I'm really hoping that "raising the average" thing comes in handy in that case.

 

[Meoima]

Do we have a compliation video or gifs in which Yuzuru put various stuffs on his head at WTT?

I was in the hospital that time so I could not see. :sad21: Thank you in advance.

 

[HoneyGoldLev]

Basically: i was completely detached from FS because it was too painful to see things i would never be able to do. But i saw him skate to PW and i fell in love with his lines, with the way he moved across the ice and naturally i wanted to know more and follow him. But, i knew it was going to be one intense ride with him, i just knew it and my life wasn't in a good place at that moment so i ignored him as much as i could: didn't google him, didn't watch his videos until he popped on the kouhaku and well... Here i am. I tried to ignore him after that again but he kept popping left and right

Ooh this is interesting... I don't follow Men FS back then, then stop watching FS altogether after that because of Sochi scandal.
The last thing I remember before leaving FS was that there's this new rising star in Men FS, the youngest and first Japanese to win gold at Olympic, but I didn't bother (THE REGRET THO)
Surprise2, 2 years later I found out it was Hanyu. I kinda wish I discover him sooner...
After binge-watching his programs, PW for me is his best short program. The raw emotion is just

 

[Fresca]

I was wondering : what do you technical specialists think about this (small) critique on Yuzu's jump landing posture ? : http://figureskatingask.tumblr.com/post/159970087357/hello-im-curious-to-know-what-you-mean-when-you

I'm assuming the blogger means this.

I'm not a skating technical specialist but I know about jumps and about balance from dance. What Yuzu is doing there in his upper body is purely aesthetic and doesn't affect his alignment/balance. In dance, this is called contraction and release. This curving forward over the torso is an integral part of modern/contemporary dance movement. I find it ironic the blogger finds it a flaw while I find this movement is very natural and adds a dynamic appeal to jumps.

This is related to "bad posture" complaints. It will come as a shock to these people that such "bad posture" is part of the aesthetic preference of modern dance.

I just noticed the blogger also says that Yuzu doesn't engage his core well in his jump landings. That is completely wrong. Yuzu has a very strong core on his jump landings. It's how he's able to keep his alignment and how he is able to "release" back into a neutral or curved backwards spine from contraction when he opens his upper body and arms. If he did not have a strong core he would not keep his balance and fall. In addition, contraction and release come from the core. Without a strong core he wouldn't be able to open up as he did.

 

[Floria]

i was watching some Spanish interviews with Javi and i found this one from April 2015 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzqM1XuIUOI&t=545s ). It’s 40min long, it’s very informal and friendly, the interviewer is pretty clueless about figure skating, lol. There’s this part where they talk about Yuzu (4:10-8:30) that I don’t think has been translated anywhere:

I: What's Hanyu's signature move?
J: He's a very consistent skater. He does a good job at almost all competitions. I mean, he's a super complete skater. Everything he does is really... I mean, he's an Olympic champion.. He's always very clean, he's a /brilliant/ guy. He skates very well, jumps very well, his spins are wonderful.

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Thank you for translating and sharing!

The part I liked most is about the consistency. When a praise like this comes from one of your biggest rivals it means quite a lot.

 

[Altie]

I just noticed the blogger also says that Yuzu doesn't engage his core well in his jump landings. That is completely wrong. Yuzu has a very strong core on his jump landings. It's how he's able to keep his alignment and how he is able to "release" back into a neutral or curved backwards spine from contraction when he opens his upper body and arms. If he did not have a strong core he would not keep his balance and fall. In addition, contraction and release come from the core. Without a strong core he wouldn't be able to open up as he did.

Thank you !

There's been good answers on tumblr too : by chibura here and here (I think it's Fayruza ?); and by fuckyeahdearlybeloved, here

 

[teeannroo]

OK let me just drop my current lockscreen... his arms



We need to balance out the serious talk from earlier today!

Speaking of lockscreens, does anyone have any other photos of Yuzu that they use as their lock screen?

 

[Floria]

I have found this on YT. Probably it was shared hundreds of times, but it's still interesting to see. If I am not mistaken it seems to be a video of first 3A attempts. And there is a fragment with Ina Bauer I can rewatch all day (about 0:17)