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If you have access to Russian Eurosport 2- they are doing the recap of Men's event from Skate Canada. Finally. Tune in NOW.
 
YuzusHydroblade said:
Poor bby :c at least it looks like he understands now how important is to rest and heal properly.
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His injury takes longer to heal though. But I think it's goodness in disguise for him, as he now understands that he can't just go on ignoring the pain. I remember when he was 17 he said something like "pain is alright!", now he doesn't say things like that anymore.
He looked calm at SC LP actually, I guess he has another goal in his mind at that moment, to adjust himself accordingly to his body condition and to each competition.
 
His jumps technique is better, he doesn't seem to need anymore to be in top physical shape to nail quads. I was impressed by how easily he nailed 4T as 5th(!) jump in FS more than half way trough. Last year that wouldn't have been possible
 
Meoima said:
His injury takes longer to heal though. But I think it's goodness in disguise for him, as he now understands that he can't just go on ignoring the pain. I remember when he was 17 he said something like "pain is alright!", now he doesn't say things like that anymore.
He looked calm at SC LP actually, I guess he has another goal in his mind at that moment, to adjust himself accordingly to his body condition and to each competition.
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No pain no gain? Goodness gracious, Yuzu no... It's never late to understand these kind of things i guess. I sometimes wonder if he is going to ever be fully healed but i suppose i should have more faith in his doctors...
this is getting dark again, i'm sorry. Let's move into a happier topic. Like his squishy tofu cheeks
 
Oh-kay. I'm caught up. Mostly. Real life has been crazy. :drama:

Only just got around to watching Yuzu's EX from the Eurosport HD recording, as well as the Eurosport recap of the men's event. Cried tears during both programs. I'd read that he was skating to The Swan, but it never occurred to me people meant Saint-Saens' swan. :luv17: Utterly and completely in love. Combined with Joe Hisaishi (seriously, who is this Jo woman?!), I couldn't ask for better music this season. Although I still have some issues with the way "View of Silence" and "Asian Dream Song" are mixed together, and I'll be honest, I really do prefer the piano version of ADS, but that's just personal preference, and I am already much happier with how it sounds than with Autumn classic; just a matter of getting used to it.

The Gala costume, well, I could maybe do with a bit less white, but since it's apparently supposed to be a white swan, cannot be too picky. LOVING the feathers, please yes!!!! And the big V cutout at the back, yummy, and all the bling and did I mention the feathers? Hurah. So much better than all those boring non-costumes-but-basically-plain-clothes outfits most men are wearing. It's no wonder I'm more drawn to the Ladies and Ice Dance nowadays...
And the FS costume is such a sight for sore eyes after that SP. I just couldn't take my eyes off it just now, HD on television. Gorgeous. Don't ever change, Yuzuru!

I'll try and write down some of the comments from the Dutch commentators on Yuzu's FS and Gala ex sometime soon (later this weekend maybe, for now I'm going to Germany to attend a Final Fantasy Japanese video game music concert; Yuzu would approve, I think!). Dutch eurosport commentators are not the biggest fans, but there will probably be some nice stuff in there. Not by the usual team, btw, as Jeroen Prins who usually does commentary was a judge at the Pairs and Ice Dance at this event.
 
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JuliettaG said:
This kind soul has been traslating Yuzu's Ice Jewells interview. Here is the first part of it.
I look forward to reading the next ones!:thank:
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Thanks for this! I think this article is out for a while and just got (fully) translated, thanks for the translator. :)
I remembered a member of this forum (sorry I forgot who it was) translated bits and pieces of the interview before. Does anyone remember if this interview is held during open practice or near AC?
 
HanDomi said:
His jumps technique is better, he doesn't seem to need anymore to be in top physical shape to nail quads. I was impressed by how easily he nailed 4T as 5th(!) jump in FS more than half way trough. Last year that wouldn't have been possible
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Although I agree, I think it's telling that only his 4T has been really consistent this competition (in the K&C after the FS, Brian mentioned that he didn't miss any 4Ts). To me, that seems like he is relying on 'muscle memory' since 4T has been a stable jump for him for a long time already and he can whip it out anytime even with little practice. He will almost always rotate it even if he falls. On the other hand, although he had been practising more 4S and 4Lo compared to his 4T due to the injury, they are still considerably more inconsistent in comparison and need way more focus to land. Everything needs to line up correctly for him to even rotate them (though when he does rotate them, they're great). I know some of it is due to the mechanics of edge vs toe jumps but I think he hasn't 'conquered' the 4S yet to the extent that he can nail it without being in top physical shape.

Also, I hope they are paying attention to how he is doing his 4T and make sure that he's not doing it the same way that led to the injury in the first place. He was throwing out a lot of toe jumps in the gala practice.
 
Raomina said:
Although I agree, I think it's telling that only his 4T has been really consistent this competition (in the K&C after the FS, Brian mentioned that he didn't miss any 4Ts). To me, that seems like he is relying on 'muscle memory' since 4T has been a stable jump for him for a long time already and he can whip it out anytime even with little practice. He will almost always rotate it even if he falls. On the other hand, although he had been practising more 4S and 4Lo compared to his 4T due to the injury, they are still considerably more inconsistent in comparison and need way more focus to land. Everything needs to line up correctly for him to even rotate them (though when he does rotate them, they're great). I know some of it is due to the mechanics of edge vs toe jumps but I think he hasn't 'conquered' the 4S yet to the extent that he can nail it without being in top physical shape.

Also, I hope they are paying attention to how he is doing his 4T and make sure that he's not doing it the same way that led to the injury in the first place. He was throwing out a lot of toe jumps in the gala practice.
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Actually, last season his 4S is more consistent that his 4T. He only failed it once in the SP at Japan Nats and then the FS at worlds, other than that he landed all the rest cleanly with + GOE. Just my assumption, his inconsistency with 4S recently may possibly be due to his not being used to the difference in timing between 4S and 4Lo just yet. He used to say that timing between 4Lo and 4S is similar thus in the past he thought by practicing 4Lo he began to gain consistency in 4S. But recently, both him and Brian claimed that the timing and mechanics between 4S and 4Lo is actually pretty different and not the same. He probably just need time to get used to doing both jumps at the same program, I think.
 
mcq said:
Actually, last season his 4S is more consistent that his 4T. He only failed it once in the SP at Japan Nats and then the FS at worlds, other than that he landed all the rest cleanly with + GOE. Just my assumption, his inconsistency with 4S recently may possibly be due to his not being used to the difference in timing between 4S and 4Lo just yet. He used to say that timing between 4Lo and 4S is similar thus in the past he thought by practicing 4Lo he began to gain consistency in 4S. But recently, both him and Brian claimed that the timing and mechanics between 4S and 4Lo is actually pretty different and not the same. He probably just need time to get used to doing both jumps at the same program, I think.
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I think the reason why his 4T was inconsistent last season was simply due to the injury, not that his 4S is really more consistent than his 4T. I agree that doing both 4Lo and 4S in the same program probably affects the timing for both, or perhaps doing two edge quad jumps just takes more energy? I think just doing 2 4S in his program takes more energy than doing 2 4Ts, even without 4Lo in the picture, which is why he's trying to make the jump more efficient and it looks very airy when he does land it.
 
Raomina said:
I think the reason why his 4T was inconsistent last season was simply due to the injury, not that his 4S is really more consistent than his 4T. I agree that doing both 4Lo and 4S in the same program probably affects the timing for both, or perhaps doing two edge quad jumps just takes more energy? I think just doing 2 4S in his program takes more energy than doing 2 4Ts, even without 4Lo in the picture, which is why he's trying to make the jump more efficient and it looks very airy when he does land it.
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No, even in practice, his edge jumps have always been more consistent than his toe jumps. This time it's just the timing and the pressure of quad loop. That's all.
 
Raomina said:
I think the reason why his 4T was inconsistent last season was simply due to the injury, not that his 4S is really more consistent than his 4T. I agree that doing both 4Lo and 4S in the same program probably affects the timing for both, or perhaps doing two edge quad jumps just takes more energy? I think just doing 2 4S in his program takes more energy than doing 2 4Ts, even without 4Lo in the picture, which is why he's trying to make the jump more efficient and it looks very airy when he does land it.
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Oh yes, I agree with you. Not saying that his 4S overall is more consistent than his 4T, just assuming that his trouble with 4S recently might be because of his still making adjustment and getting used to the timing. When done individually (from fancams I watched for SC and AC, official practice or warmup) he doesn't seem to have much problem landing them (the success rate is not 100%, ofc. But the jumps are there). I guess when sewn together in a program it will take him a little time to get used to.
 
Actually I think his solo quad salchow is pretty consistent. It's when he's had to do it in combination that he has trouble, he hasn't landed a 4S3T in official competition yet (either this season or at Worlds last season). I feel when he finally does land it it'll start to be consistent in competition. It's a real beauty in practice.
 
kiches said:
Actually I think his solo quad salchow is pretty consistent. It's when he's had to do it in combination that he has trouble, he hasn't landed a 4S3T in official competition yet (either this season or at Worlds last season). I feel when he finally does land it it'll start to be consistent in competition. It's a real beauty in practice.
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I think so too, his solo 4S is ok in practice even during summer when he resumed his training. It's the combo the issue. But again I hope he won't go back to 4T3T because it relates to his foot injury.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that he has a problem landing the 4S, but that he cannot yet nail it under pressure/not in top form, even without 4Lo like during Worlds for example. Having multiple edge quad jumps and the combo definitely seems to affect it.

He already has less hesitation going into it compared to last season and the axis seems more stable, so hopefully the 'muscle memory' will become more solidified and the timing doesn't have to be perfect for him to land it.
 
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He was drilling the 4S3T quite a few times during the gala practice, some successful some not. It was definitely frustrating him since he let out a sound of frustration at one point. I wonder if the fact that he takes the trajectory for the set up on a bit of a curve is what messes with it, sometimes when skaters go into those corners I worry they'll run out of room and hit the boards.
 
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