Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[Meoima]

GUYS!! My ice rink agrees to pay for my trip to the ISU seminar! To be frankly, more like I will work as their translator. But I will try to ask some questions if they do not find it irritating. :luv17:

 

[cherryncy]

GUYS!! My ice rink agrees to pay for my trip to the ISU seminar! To be frankly, more like I will work as their translator. But I will try to ask some questions if they do not find it irritating. :luv17:

WOW CONGRATS! I hope you enjoy it

 

[mcq]

Not in terms of time zones. Nathan and Yuzuru are but not Javier. He's had plenty of time to acclimate and NY and Toronto are in the same time zone. But I don't think all the hopping is a problem for Yuzuru or they wouldn't have done it, so I am sure it's fine.

Yes, but Javier's ice show is closer to GPF date than NHK is to GPF for Yuzuru. He basically has to fly in within 2-3 days from now after an ice show, and I will be honest, I am a bit surprised that he took a performance job so close to GPF though I understand his reasons. All I am saying is that Yuzuru is not the only skater with scheduling and/or travel disadvantage here. Both Yuzu and Javi has the choice to lessen themselves of the scheduling and travel fatigue but they made their choice against it either way, and I would think they know best what is appropriate for them. I wouldn't so far saying the travel hopping won't be a problem, since I think this is probably the first he travel so much within busy competition week in just a 2-week window, and I have yet to see how it will affect his performance. I just thought that if he had to do it, there must be a reason that triumph the disadvantage of doing this, in his and his team's mind.

GUYS!! My ice rink agrees to pay for my trip to the ISU seminar! To be frankly, more like I will work as their translator. But I will try to ask some questions if they do not find it irritating. :luv17:

If you don't mind me asking. Is this seminar for judges, technical panel or just for ISU committee in general? Or is this actually for coaches and skaters? hahah.
Have fun there.

 

[alia jackson]

I wouldn't so far saying the travel hopping won't be a problem, since I think this is probably the first he travel so much within busy competition week in just a 2-week window, and I have yet to see how it will affect his performance. I just thought that if he had to do it, there must be a reason that triumph the disadvantage of doing this, in his and his team's mind.

My concerned is same like last year which is the three back to back important competitions (NHK, GPF, Nationals across different time zones within 10days of each) that Yuzu need to perform well as this will decide who Japan will send to Worlds and also the #1 status which will impact international PCS.

Last year he was tired by Japanese Nationals and made some errors.

 

[Yatagarasu]

GUYS!! My ice rink agrees to pay for my trip to the ISU seminar! To be frankly, more like I will work as their translator. But I will try to ask some questions if they do not find it irritating. :luv17:

Oh that sounds great, hopefully you can poke around a bit and have fun, apart from just work!

Yes, but Javier's ice show is closer to GPF date than NHK is to GPF for Yuzuru. He basically has to fly in within 2-3 days from now after an ice show, and I will be honest, I am a bit surprised that he took a performance job so close to GPF though I understand his reasons. [...]I wouldn't so far saying the travel hopping won't be a problem, since I think this is probably the first he travel so much within busy competition week in just a 2-week window, and I have yet to see how it will affect his performance. I just thought that if he had to do it, there must be a reason that triumph the disadvantage of doing this, in his and his team's mind.

The scheduling definitely, I admit I was surprised myself when I read it here Javier is going but maybe he's calculated it's within acceptable parameters. Much like with Yuzuru and his hopping, we'll see. I think that he must have some tolerance for it at least or I don't think they'd have risked it, unless it was some emergency and I certainly hope not. There are people who are ok with it, one of my friends who hops around like crazy due to his job isn't affected at all (everyone around him hates him; they're dying and he's the Energizer bunny) so Yuzuru is probably in the handles it fine category. Fingers crossed at least I expect we'll see him in France on Sunday or Monday latest.

The SP is on Thursday right? I'm trying to get my bearings, as it's been on Fridays up to now.

 

[Marin]

My concerned is same like last year which is the three back to back important competitions (NHK, GPF, Nationals across different time zones within 10days of each) that Yuzu need to perform well as this will decide who Japan will send to Worlds and also the #1 status which will impact international PCS.

To be honest I don't think winning nationals decides international PCS, people give Japanese nationals too much credit, Mao and Daisuke both lost Nationals couple of times , it never affected their international status. If you watch US or Canadian Nats it is the same, Osmond despite loosing nationals always gets more PCS than Gabby/Alaine, winning/loosing nationals never affected Gracie /Ashley or Adam/Jason. Yagudin has never won (never ever ) Russian Nationals but it didn't affect beating Plushenko internationally most of the time. Japanese Nationals is very much commercial so that is why media gives so much attention , other than that ISU doesn't care about it too much.

 

[Yatagarasu]

^^
The Japanese nationals this time around are important for that third spot for the World's and who gets to go, that's about it.

 

[mcq]

My concerned is same like last year which is the three back to back important competitions (NHK, GPF, Nationals across different time zones within 10days of each) for Yuzu that will decide who Japan will send to Worlds and also the #1 status which will impact international PCS.

Yes, but last year he stayed in Japan throughout GPF and Nats, didn't return to Canada. Personally, I think Nats should not be the competition he stressed about. He is locked for that world spot whether he win it or not. Most TJ men are injured, Dice and Sota aren't going to Nats. Realistically speaking, only Keiji Tanaka and Takahito Mura is contender for the podium + 3rd spot. It is not like 2013 where there are basically 6 person that were podium contenders (with Oda, Kozuka, Yuzu, Dai, Mura and Machida) fighting for that olympic spot. The only person Yuzuru should worry about is Shoma, but quite honestly, if he lost to him (knock woods) he should look ahead to 4CC and worlds. But I'm not Yuzuru and he got his own way of thinking, so
Takahashi and Asada did not win National the whole time, Dai was beaten by Oda and Kozuka at some point before Yuzu did and Mao by Miki and Akiko. A more extreme example is Yagudin, who never win Russian Nationals, not even once. But he is an olympic champion and 4x world champion regardless. Though Nats might influence international results, international showing is still going to be what matters to the judges, regardless of Nats results, I think.

The SP is on Thursday right? I'm trying to get my bearings, as it's been on Fridays up to now.

Yep, he should have arrived latest by Tuesday since OP is Wednesday. So i expect him to fly by Sunday and Monday too.

 

[giulia95]

Javier is in New York now for an ice show so no, Yuzuru is not the only one with a packed schedule.

It seems to me New York is not that far from Toronto , while I highly doubt Javi's exibition has 4 quads and 2 3A combo

so we have ice show versus competition and 3 jet lags versus 1 ...ohh well I forgot Yuzu is an alien

 

[Marin]

^^
The Japanese nationals this time around are important for that third spot for the World's and who gets to go, that's about it.

agree ^^

and Yuzuru can just say he will skip Nats and they will send him anyways ... just we all know he will never do that .

 

[Marin]

^^
The Japanese nationals this time around are important for that third spot for the World's and who gets to go, that's about it.

Also people love drama , tales about how once Yuzuru "dethroned " Daisuke is endless and boring already, now some are making noises how Yuzuru can be "dethroned"
As if it was Olympic gold or World Championships, of course I am sure Yuzuru wants to keep his national title but I'd prefer to see him winning 4cc and wc than Nationals ( winning all 3 is the best option tho) So if he is going to stumble I'd "prefer" this to happen at Nats and not WC this time.

 

[mcq]

Also people love drama , tales about how once Yuzuru "dethroned " Daisuke is endless and boring already, now some are making noises how Yuzuru can be "dethroned"

This is the whole reason why Nats matter so much to some lmao. Frankly speaking this should be the least stressful Nats for both Yuzu and Shoma. Japan got 3 spots, both of them are pretty much a lock. If you look at SB score, Keiji and Mura is far off from them, even when their skates are disastrous. This championship is about pride of being National Champion rather than for world spot to be honest. This is not like the ladies in Japan and Russian Nats or the US men fighting for 2 spots at worlds

 

[Marin]

This is the whole reason why Nats matter so much to some lmao. Frankly speaking this should be the least stressful Nats for both Yuzu and Shoma. Japan got 3 spots, both of them are pretty much a lock. If you look at SB score, Keiji and Mura is far off from them, even when their skates are disastrous. This championship is about pride of being National Champion rather than for world spot to be honest. This is not like the ladies in Japan and Russian Nats or the US men fighting for 2 spots at worlds

true but Japanese media loves some "cookies" about non existent rivalry . baking and cooking biiiig news ))) ... I wish Yuzu did like Shizuka in 2006 just do enough at Nats to have secured spot. Anyways this wc and the next one are about 1. Securing 3 spots and 2. Qualifying for WC and Olympic team, the rest doesn't matter just matter of pride for Yuzu personally.

 

[Yatagarasu]

As if it was Olympic gold or World Championships, of course I am sure Yuzuru wants to keep his national title but I'd prefer to see him winning 4cc and wc than Nationals ( winning all 3 is the best option tho) So if he is going to stumble I'd "prefer" this to happen at Nats and not WC this time.

I think Yuzuru has a lot of pride, a lot, so I think the title of the National Champion probably means quite a bit to him though I couldn't agree with you more, if he has to stumble, Nats are the best place to do so. But even if he isn't perfect his programs are still insanely difficult so he's fine from the other two chasing him. Both he and Shoma are in the GPF though, so that's the same in that regard. It'll be interesting to see if we can find out if he goes back to Canada first or not.

Though of course, the ideal option is the quadruple crown

 

[Yatagarasu]

For some fun, ticket prices for PC are out, for Koreans (it's pricier for the rest of us but those are not announced yet). Cat A goes from 440 for the SP to 480 Euros for the FS, Cat B 280 and 320 and Cat C 120, same for both events. Gala tickets are 640, 400 and 180 (I've rounded up the numbers).

 

[Lambari]

To be very honest, at this point I don't care if he finishes dead 6th in GPF or decides to roll around at the ice at Nats, just wIN THE GODdAM WORLDs !!1!!1! Lmao.

But of course he has very different thoughts than mine. :rofl2:

Actually it wouldn't even make that much difference if he doesn't win Worlds but this World title has been eluding him for 2 seasons already and even his title at 2014 wasn't all that much definite. If it's already frustrating for me, someone that has no relation with him whatsoever, I imagine how it is for him.

Of course, there's that standard talk about "I don't care where he places as long as he keeps skating" that should be said but I just want that one flawless H&L skate at Worlds, c'mon.
I'm sorry for being a sinner. :dev3:

 

[mcq]

For some fun, ticket prices for PC are out, for Koreans (it's pricier for the rest of us but those are not announced yet). Cat A goes from 440 for the SP to 480 Euros for the FS, Cat B 280 and 320 and Cat C 120, same for both events. Gala tickets are 640, 400 and 180 (I've rounded up the numbers).

this is in Euros? Are you sure? This is very expensive actually. more expensive than olympic tickets

 

[Plumededragon]

I'll be in Marseille next week, so basically it's a chance of a lifetime to see him performing, since I have no idea if I'll ever be able to go to FaOI (the dates are apparently out, for those of you who will be/are in Japan in May/June). I can only hope my heart will handle it well, considering how I stress a lot when I watch him on livestream, or even when I'm not watching and waiting for Jackie to report the results on twitter.
But yes, as you guys say, I mainly want him to win Worlds this year, and to go to 4CC so that he can try out the venue for the Olympics. But he'll be extra happy if he can win GPF too, so... hoping things will go well!

 

[Yatagarasu]

this is in Euros? Are you sure? This is very expensive actually. more expensive than olympic tickets

It is the Olympics, sorry, my PC means Pyeongchang, I am too lazy to type it out

Here, you can see the prices. Those are Korean Won. They are going to be raking it in, especially when you add the rest of us, which should be higher due to taxes.

 

[mcq]

It is the Olympics, sorry, my PC means Pyeongchang, I am too lazy to type it out

Here, you can see the prices. Those are Korean Won. They are going to be raking it in, especially when you add the rest of us, which should be higher due to taxes.

Lol, sorry my bad. Technically 4CC is also in Pyeongchang/Gangneung where the olympics are held so I misunderstood lol.
Well, the venue is not really big and with the amount of Japanese going to see TJ it still will sellout anyway no matter the price, BUT STILL This is the same price that I have seen going around for a while I think.