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I've heard said before that even a 4A is not possible. Now I'm not saying a quintuple, is that even the name :laugh: is possible, I'm just saying humans are a weird species and it probably should not be absolutely dismissed. Maybe at some point both the ice treatments and the blade technology will progress that that tiny but huge step from a 4A, which I think is doable, to a quint will make it possible. A biomechanist should know better :p

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Oh yeah, I do believe we will see a 4A in competition.
 
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I've heard said before that even a 4A is not possible. Now I'm not saying a quintuple, is that even the name :laugh: is possible, I'm just saying humans are a weird species and it probably should not be absolutely dismissed. Maybe at some point both the ice treatments and the blade technology will progress that that tiny but huge step from a 4A, which I think is doable, to a quint will make it possible. A biomechanist should know better :p

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Oh yeah, I do believe we will see a 4A in competition.

If he has already tried it i doubt he would want to retire without landing it at least once in a competition :laugh:
 
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I've heard said before that even a 4A is not possible. Now I'm not saying a quintuple, is that even the name :laugh: is possible, I'm just saying humans are a weird species and it probably should not be absolutely dismissed. Maybe at some point both the ice treatments and the blade technology will progress that that tiny but huge step from a 4A, which I think is doable, to a quint will make it possible. A biomechanist should know better :p

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Oh yeah, I do believe we will see a 4A in competition.

Based on the article, with maximum rotational speed you can jump 5 1/2 rev in the air (lol), but you would need more airtime thus more height I think. Quite frankly, if you look at nowadays' quad, not even all of them have good height. Yuzuru's quad barely have pre rotation and is fully rotated, considering now he can even jump quad from almost no speed (the 1lo4S lol), I would assume an extra 1/4 to 1/2 rotation is not really a longshot with a bit more height/faster rotational speed. :agree2:
p.s : About this study done by that guy from Delaware Uni, I read his article, the skater(s) he used for study is not Yuzuru-level though so... let's just say I would not be so skeptical about the 4A :p
 
Based on the article, with maximum rotational speed you can jump 5 1/2 rev in the air (lol), but you would need more airtime thus more height I think. Quite frankly, if you look at nowadays' quad, not even all of them have good height. Yuzuru's quad barely have pre rotation and is fully rotated, considering now he can even jump quad from almost no speed (the 1lo4S lol), I would assume an extra 1/4 to 1/2 rotation is not really a longshot with a bit more height/faster rotational speed. :agree2:
p.s : About this study done by that guy from Delaware Uni, I read his article, the skater(s) he used for study is not Yuzuru-level though so... let's just say I would not be so skeptical about the 4A :p

Yes, considering all what we know about Yuzuru's quads, and his 3A, I think it's doable. I think he is rotating faster this year btw and I've got to wonder where that is coming from.

I also truly feel like sometimes it's forgotten that it's not the skater alone who is out there on the ice. It's the skater and their equipment, that is top notch for these best skaters. And the skates, both the boots and the blades have evolved and are evolving. I remember some ten years ago or so, a commentator was remarking on that progress and how much it mattered, and honestly, I at least don't think it's ever talked about that much, if at all. But sometimes it takes very little extra to achieve something and that very little can come from a different source. So when you have a skater like Yuzuru, who has both the technique and the particular body shape and physical ability and combine that with our 21st century technology, then I am not skeptical either, when it comes to the 4A. Not surprised the study wasn't at the level of an absolute elite but then, it is those who will push the limits of what is possible, so a scientist should take that into account.

In general it is always going to be very few people who can achieve such feats but as I said, I think it possible, in a stable way (the 4A).
 
I learned of the news of Yuzu's withdrawal only today, since we were without Internet because of the rainy season. I'm sad because he's sick. I can not stand to see him sick. The flu for him is more painful due to asthma and pharyngitis. I wonder how hard this moment is for him ... You asked us patience Yuzu, now you need to have the patience to heal yourself totally. Be a good boy, rest and enjoy to enjoy your family. You've already accomplished great things this season and will return stronger to complete your goal. We trust you. May our God bless you and bring you healing. Amen! We're rooting for you. Be healed and come back soon. We love you so much.
 
Wishing Yuzu a speedy recovery. It seems it takes him longer to recover from illness from previous times than some people so hope this doesn't put him back too much in terms of training.

Runrun on twitter put together all her chibi HopeLega drawings into videos. It's really cute and something for us to enjoy until we see Yuzu in competition again. Hope you all have a great holiday.

https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/812087699691581440
https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/812088445744988160
https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/812089545030123520
https://twitter.com/runrun8383/status/812090749181313024
 
Get well soon yuzu!! :) I believe all things happen for a reason, I hope you take this chance to get a good well deserve rest, spend good time with your family in holydays and reload your energy for the second half of the season, nothing is more important than your health!!

I don't know if this was posted before but is from Yzriko channel, an extra video of the nhk banquet, it's very short but you can see yuzu looks really cute as always :)
 
Yuzuru is a considerate boy. He doesn't want Brian to lose his hair. Or die of shock.

Being a Hanyu fan is hard work for the nerves and heart but what a ride ah? :laugh: So worth it!

Are you saying Nathan is not considerate? Or maybe that was Mao's fault. Giggles
 
Isn't that every year the previous national champ needs to give back his big trophy to the officials and they will give a small trophy in exchange? Does that mean this year they won't do that for men's because well Yuzu won't be there?
 
It wasn't an interview. Elle transcribed their commentary during Yuzu's GPF SP and set them to photos.

Ah I see, thank you I will correct it :biggrin:

ETA : Ah wait, it does look like an interview though, because there are questions on it? I used google trans and it does seem like an interview. Can you kindly help check this link?

Simon said his favorite program from Hanyu is Prince's LGC and he commented that he was mesmerized by his performance after the collision at COC. Chris also like this year's program.
 
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Ah I see, thank you I will correct it :biggrin:

ETA : Ah wait, it does look like an interview though, because there are questions on it? I used google trans and it does seem like an interview. Can you kindly help check this link?

oh ooh. I think I clicked into the wrong link. My bad. I'll look at it again XD Totally was an interview, but I clicked into a separate link they provided with the commentary stuff.
 
Thank you very much! :thank:

1/20
Caption: 2016 GPF EX. Elegant~

Title: “Elegant and a very strong competitor"
Q: What’s the best point about Yuzu?
Simon: Hm. He’s really elegant, really strong. He’s also a great competitor, always looks like he’s enjoying the competition. Tries his best even under the stiffest circumstances.

2/20
Caption: 2014 Sochi podium. Sleeves too long (cute)

Title: “First skater to get 300+ score"
Chris: Exactly as Simon says. It’s clear if you look at his past results, but he’s the first person to go for a quad loop in competition, and the first Japanese male skater to get the Olympic gold. And now he wins GPF for the 4th consecutive time. And he was the first skater to ever score 300+… All that really speaks to his character.

3/20

Title: “No doubt the strongest skater right now"
Chris: He’s no doubt the strongest skater right now. And, as Simon said, he performs and delivers under extreme pressure. It’s indescribable how much pressure it is to show up at the ice rink with so many spectators watching. Although even if there is no pressure, it’s still hard...

4/20

Title: “That’s Yuzu!"
Chris: He made a great landing with the quad loop at GPF. Although he almost seemed like his nose was going to touch the ground, he somehow managed to hold his body back up to survive the landing. That’s Yuzuru for you! It’s always so exciting / nerve-wrecking (in a good way, adrenaline-y?) to watch his performance. He has such charisma in him, it’s always a pleasure.

5/20
Title: “Dignified even after a fail"
Q: What’s a skill that only Yuzu has?
Simon: Nobody beats his elegance on the ice. He is dignified and stately. But he also isn’t perfect, as you can also see from this year’s GP. Then again, even when he fails, it’s as if nothing happened. Even after he fails, he continues in a majestic manner. You can really feel his confidence.

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Title: It’s like magic!
Chris: Yes. There’s no one else that has all his qualities. The ability to draw spectators in, his exquisite technical ability, and as Simon said, that elegance. Of course, he doesn’t always display all these qualities at the same time. But when he does, it’s like magic!

7/20
Title: Yuzu pushes the technical limits
Chris: And, I just have to say this. Yuzu challenges himself to his technical limits and pulls the other skaters along. We might be seeing more failures from skaters hereon in the coming years, but that’s because they are now challenging harder jumps than ever. And that’s because Yuzu is always challenging himself. That’s awesome!

8/20
Title: Prince Program. Love that!
Q: What’s your favorite program by Yuzu?
Simon: Hmmmm, I can’t decide on one, I have two. One’s the Prince Program that Jeff Buttle choreographed for his SP this year. Loved that.

9/20
Simon (cont): But, to me, I really felt his charisma during 2014 CoC. He collided with Yan Han and was really injured.

10/20
Simon (cont): Despite falling five times, he won the silver medal. It’s a wonder that he didn’t stop mid-performance. He could seem so weak then, but really he was tremendously resilient. Such a fantastic combination!

11/20
Title: He challenges his weaknesses every single year
Chris: It’s a hard question for me… Well, I also enjoyed the SP (it was a great program) this year immensely. Yuzu keeps challenging his weaknesses every single year, and that’s what’s so great about him. This year’s program was particularly challenging for him, so it left a great impression on me.

12/20
Title: Delicate but strong
Q: Beside his technical skills, what do you like about Yuzu?
Simon: Although he’s delicate, he’s a really strong figure skater. The combination.

13/20
Title: The fact that he still went to Canada (to train with Brian) after having been through so much is great
Simon: His resilience, which he showed in the CoC incident. But also, after the 2011 earthquake, when he was unable to practice in Sendai and went to Yokohoma until the rink in Sendai reopened. The amazing courage that took him to Canada. (Of course Brian Orser is a great coach) But he really completely changed his life.

14/20
Title: Yuzu is a success case
Simon: Well many skaters go abroad, but amongst them, Yuzu is a great example. It was a necessary step at the time for him to advance to the next level, and he made it.

15/20
Caption: Russian fairy Evgenia full of smiles in front of Yuzu. She gave Yuzu a (Elle says electric facial :laugh2:) tumbler for his birthday.
Title: Yuzu is really popular with the girls
Simon: Although Yuzu says he doesn’t have a lot of Japanese friends, his friends say he’s the most popular among Japanese girls. Kei Nishiki the tennis player might be more popular amongst boys, but amongst the girls… (of course there are male fans too) he’s by far the most popular (laughs).

16/20
Title: Yuzu might be even more popular than Beckham at the time
Simon: I think David Beckham was pretty popular in Japan. He was the most popular athlete in the past 20 years. But, as far as I know, Yuzu seems to be more popular than Beckham back then.

17/20
Title: While facing staggering pressure
Simon: While he faces staggering pressure, he skates as if he doesn’t feel that at all. Of course, his looks probably contribute to the popularity. Well, you can ask the girls (laughs).

18/20
Title: Amazing charisma
Chris: I think Yuzu has great charisma. He just catches my attention every single time he gets on the ice. I can’t look away. It’s like “I can see exciting things coming up!” I think that’s his magical charm.

19/20
Title: He always overcomes pressure
Chris: Simon was also saying, but it’s amazing the amount of pressure he faces, with so many fans watching. And he always overcomes and shows us.

20/20
Title: Of course, he’s handsome too
Chris: There are no other players with such amazing qualities. And of course, he’s a looker! (laughs)
 
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Wow @gladiolusc thank you so much for the translation! :ghug:

Always a pleasure listening (or this time reading) about BESP uncles gushing about Yuzuru :biggrin:
 
National is only important because it decides your worlds/olympics/4CC berth. You will risk your health to compete in national if that's the only way you can be sent to worlds/4cc/olympics. If you can make the worlds/4cc/olympics team without competing in national, then national isn't that important any more and it's not worth taking the risk.

No way. You never understand the value of Japanese Nationals for Japanese figure skaters. They are devoted themselves in figure skating in a not so easy environment in Japan, from the top level skaters like Yuzuru to those who are in the last season of competitive field and experiencing the first Nationals in their career. Some may have to give up due to study, some due to work, or others. They just share the feeling of love to figure skating. They all know that, so they respect other skaters. It is their pride to be the champion of them, and go to the Worlds as the national champion.

There are so many dramas every year. Fans all love every scene happening in the Nationals.

Great Moments of Nationals (Men)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x55p41w_髙橋さんと振り返る名場面-男性編_sport

(Ladies)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x55slzu_髙橋さんと振り返る名場面-女性編-真央復活_sport

The members I want (not prediction) ;)

Worlds: Yuzuru Hanyu, Shoma Uno, Takahito Mura

4CC: Yuzuru, Keiji, Ryuju Hino (Come on Ryuju, show us your best in the Nationals :cheer2:)

Asian Games: Shoma, Keiji or someone from the juniors, maybe Kazuki Tomono (Sota could be here :cry:)
 
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Wow @gladiolusc thank you so much for the translation! :ghug:

Always a pleasure listening (or this time reading) about BESP uncles gushing about Yuzuru :biggrin:

No problem :thumbsup: I love the BESP uncles, plus I had planned my weekend around the nationals and now I'm kind of lost and obsessively looking up old performances and interviews. Thanks for sharing the link to the interview!
 
No problem :thumbsup: I love the BESP uncles, plus I had planned my weekend around the nationals and now I'm kind of lost and obsessively looking up old performances and interviews. Thanks for sharing the link to the interview!

The funniest thing here is they also gushed about his look and called him handsome. Lol i love these two :laugh2:
 
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