Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[mcq]

In fact, they're not doing very well. At least Javi. Definitely not well at all. I have heard things from his training. Of course Yuzuru is not Javi and not Patrick.

Hmm I see. I know from icetalk that Borser has been complaining about Javi's lack of training and his focus (?) on ice shows, thus affecting his performance. So I was under the impression that his subpar performance at GPF was due to that. Though at Spanish champ he is doing pretty okay. I guess we'll see later how he will do at Euros and worlds. On the contrary, Yuzuru seem to be more focused on training more in Toronto this season, reducing his public appearance in media and stay less in Japan. Borser seem to be relaxed about Yuzuru and not worry about his condition or his training too.
Either way, it is still far ahead. I'm sure things will follow suit and change depending on a lot of things that will happen in the following competitions and the following seasons. For now, I just hope he is in his prime condition and do well for this 4CC and worlds.

 

[Fayruza]

I'm sure Yuzuru will only skate as long as his drive and motivation and ambition and abilities will take him on. Whatever time is left is precious - let's savour it!

 

[Rissa]

I'm late to the CM party, but you know what Yuzuru should advertise? Toothpaste. He's got a Colgate smile.

 

[mcq]

I'm late to the CM party, but you know what Yuzuru should advertise? Toothpaste. He's got a Colgate smile.

Well, P&G got Oral-B. If it is sold in Japan, it is not far-fetched. I remember he endorses Pantene in the last PnG days series. But it seems this time they focused him more on household products

 

[Rissa]

Well, P&G got Oral-B. If it is sold in Japan, it is not far-fetched. I remember he endorses Pantene in the last PnG days series. But it seems this time they focused him more on household products

Pantene sounds more convincing though...

 

[SuzyQ]

P&G CM. Yuzuru with a bit long hair reminded me of Ryo Ishikawa, a popular Professional Golfer.

http://hanyusan.tumblr.com/post/155696150597/marketing

https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=r...UKEwiHo-euiLrRAhWDjLwKHT7JBdgQsAQINw&dpr=2.19

Some might remember Ryo was featured in the same TV program with Yuzuru some time ago.

I just remembered one more thing. Ryo has a good reputation for his polite attitude towards the media, even when he has finished with unsatisfactory results. Yuzuru's father once told him to emulate Ryo's attitude when dealing with the media (I don't remember when I read about this, maybe at the end of junior, or just moved up to senior?)
It seems Yuzuru is keeping his father's words

Sorry guys, really topic:

 

[Lys]

I'd say I don't believe male skaters at age 27 will be able to pull out the hardest layout ever. And for a person like Yuzuru, will he continue when his body can no longer do new tricks? I am just being realistic.

Point is... this is his call and his call alone. You, me, everyone else can be as realistic or as delusional as we want, but to say something as "he should do XYZ" is always jarring to me.
Only thing he should do, in my book, is to do whatever he wants.

Even a come back like Plushenko at Vancouver was considered successful, Plushenko still watered down his tech. I highly doubt Yuzuru would do the same to just go to another Olympic. Of course, if he went to 2022 and landed 4A and other crazy quads and clean... then I'd be happy. I highly doubt it, though.

The reasons Plushenko watered down his tech are a bit more complex than his body alone, tbh. His body was one of the reason, not the only one (but talking about Plushenko's career after Yagudin's retirement and how that retirement influenced his own career would bring us very off-topic )

 

[beki]

I don't know what Yuzuru will be capable of in the future, but it is odd to me that we are talking about him like he is old, just because he came into his own early. Actually, he is still improving. There are always exciting new talents, but most of them don't ever surpass the reigning champions or realize their full potential. Whatever risks or problems exist for him exist for them also. It doesn't make sense to assume the best-case scenario for his rivals and the worst case for him.

I'm not even a fan of Plushenko, but I see him and Hanyu in a different category than other skaters. Their natural ability and will to win is extreme. They can achieve things others can't. So far I am not convinced Jin, Uno or Chen belong to that category. Fernandez and Chan are wonderful skaters but they don't either.

 

[Rissa]

I don't know what Yuzuru will be capable of in the future, but it is odd to me that we are talking about him like he is old, just because he came into his own early. Actually, he is still improving. There are always exciting new talents, but most of them don't ever surpass the reigning champions or realize their full potential. Whatever risks or problems exist for him exist for them also. It doesn't make sense to assume the best-case scenario for his rivals and the worst case for him.

That's a dangerous way of thinking and something that cost, for example, Patrick Chan dearly. Luckily, Yuzuru doesn't underestimate the young talent.

 

[Fayruza]

I don't know what Yuzuru will be capable of in the future, but it is odd to me that we are talking about him like he is old, just because he came into his own early. Actually, he is still improving. There are always exciting new talents, but most of them don't ever surpass the reigning champions or realize their full potential. Whatever risks or problems exist for him exist for them also. It doesn't make sense to assume the best-case scenario for his rivals and the worst case for him.

I'm not even a fan of Plushenko, but I see him and Hanyu in a different category than other skaters. Their natural ability and will to win is extreme. They can achieve things others can't. So far I am not convinced Jin, Uno or Chen belong to that category. Fernandez and Chan are wonderful skaters but they don't either.

That's what makes me chuckle a bit all the time: I hear that Kolyada, Kovtun, Brown etc are still young, but Hanyu is a veteran. He's literally their age! Of course, he's been longer around, but that doesn't make him old, exactly. He can retire tomorrow if he wishes, or he can stay longer (and I won't be the one to object - to hell with results if I still see him skating!)
He chooses what to do with his life - I'm just grateful I was privileged enough to see such a skater, graceful and powerful at the same time.

 

[beki]

That's a dangerous way of thinking and something that cost, for example, Patrick Chan dearly. Luckily, Yuzuru doesn't underestimate the young talent.

Exactly, which is why I don't need to worry about it. I wasn't speaking of an athlete's mindset, simply my observations as a viewer. I don't mean that he is invincible. Only that each younger skater will need to make his own way, just as Yuzuru has. And that is very difficult.

I remember skaters like Florent Amodio or Joshua Farris, who seemed to have all the talent in the world, but it didn't happen for them, for various reasons. And there are many more.

 

[Fayruza]

That's a dangerous way of thinking and something that cost, for example, Patrick Chan dearly. Luckily, Yuzuru doesn't underestimate the young talent.

Oh since he WAS the one to overtake Patrick, he'll be the last person to forget about that danger. And as we know he never gives up on upping his ante. As long his health and his body hold - and I do hope they hold the pressure.

 

[Amarante]

Yuzu is the greatest!

I don't know what Yuzuru will be capable of in the future, but it is odd to me that we are talking about him like he is old, just because he came into his own early. Actually, he is still improving. There are always exciting new talents, but most of them don't ever surpass the reigning champions or realize their full potential. Whatever risks or problems exist for him exist for them also. It doesn't make sense to assume the best-case scenario for his rivals and the worst case for him.

I'm not even a fan of Plushenko, but I see him and Hanyu in a different category than other skaters. Their natural ability and will to win is extreme. They can achieve things others can't. So far I am not convinced Jin, Uno or Chen belong to that category. Fernandez and Chan are wonderful skaters but they don't either.

I absolutely agree with you! :luv17:

 

[Yatagarasu]

For me, Yuzuru, and his team of course, are the only ones who know and will know his condition. It's unique to him so any generalizations do not apply. He'll decide what he wants in the future and what he can do.

In general, I really dislike the idea that an athlete, any athlete, who was at the top at some point, has to stop once they cannot sustain that level. If they have a love for the sport and competing and are deriving pleasure out of that and practicing, then they should go on for as long as they want to. Lately I've seen a lot of this with Mao and during the Russian Nats too and it just rubs me the wrong way. As long as they want to and their health allows for it, they should go for it and whether they were once number one is irrelevant. The whole quit while you're on top is implying that their career somehow gets 'tarnished' with latter smaller results and simply no. This is btw coming from an extremely competitive person but at the same time, there are all sorts of competitions, not defined always by the simplicity of who places where.

That's a dangerous way of thinking and something that cost, for example, Patrick Chan dearly. Luckily, Yuzuru doesn't underestimate the young talent.

It's a legitimate, and true, observation though. We see a great many promising Juniors and even young Seniors who either disappear or never realize the potential they have. It's not the same as underestimating, but simply pointing out how tough it is; for everyone, not just Yuzuru.

 

[Sydney Rose]

Point is... this is his call and his call alone.

I think his family's feelings will also impact any decision he makes about how long to keep skating competitively.

 

[Amarante]

Yuzuru's challenging spirit is what excite us like no one else.

 

[vadrouille]

That's what makes me chuckle a bit all the time: I hear that Kolyada, Kovtun, Brown etc are still young, but Hanyu is a veteran. He's literally their age! Of course, he's been longer around, but that doesn't make him old, exactly. He can retire tomorrow if he wishes, or he can stay longer (and I won't be the one to object - to hell with results if I still see him skating!)
He chooses what to do with his life - I'm just grateful I was privileged enough to see such a skater, graceful and powerful at the same time.

Yes I am with you. I just feel lucky to see his skating live or on tv, on the internet. I enjoyed the moments. I don't think about retirement. It will comme when it will be. Just enjoy the time now and each time that I can to see him skating live in competitions.

He is at the same time graceful and powerful, beautiful. I enjoy his costumes too. He never let us down with his choices of costumes.

 

[Plumededragon]

Yes I am with you. I just feel lucky to see his skating live or on tv, on the internet. I enjoyed the moments. I don't think about retirement. It will comme when it will be. Just enjoy the time now and each time that I can to see him skating live in competitions.

He is at the same time graceful and powerful, beautiful. I enjoy his costumes too. He never let us down with his choices of costumes.

It is true that we tend to talk a lot about Yuzu's future plans since we have no idea what he will do after 2018, a year that is coming close... but I also simply wish to enjoy the moment given with Yuzu and hope to see him winning many competitions to come (esp. 4CC, Worlds and Olympics). Yuzu still has a lot to give to this sport.

As for the costumes, well each new one bring the dozen of pages of talk, it never fails to be entertaining.

 

[shiroKJ]

I don't know about him appearing in Milan to secure three spots, but I definitely believe that he will want to stick around for Worlds 2019. Well, I would want him to stick around, I think it'd be great if he could make it his final Worlds, on home ground.


Well, if you're there already, you can just add a few days for sightseeing, or take a train to other pretty cities.
I used to go to Italy often when I was young, because my family had a lot of colleagues/friends there. My first flight ever was to Milano! March/April would be a fine time to visit. I once swore I would never again go in the summer. It was so, so, so hot, never again.

I don't think anything less than 2 weeks is enough for Italy

Also, he looks really good in blue :

 

[Interspectator]

Yuzuru's challenging spirit is what excite us like no one else.

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