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They will change the factor though. 0.4 for triples and 0.6 for quads, maybe, that's the best. Otherwise it would be a bit unfair don't you think?



Our beloved Morozov

You're probably joking but before anyone takes this the wrong way, no, this isn't Morozov's blog or anything related to him. :rofl2:


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About the post I think it expresses the reason of why this performance was so captivating by this section: "I would say that the "energy" and "invisible connection" parts imply that such a performance becomes more than the sum of its parts by presenting an invitation to participate in something that exceeds the fetters of our immediate experiences". I think this is exactly the goal he aspired to achieve with H&L since it's such a quiet piece and when it's done perfectly it reaches a regal quality that is hard to pinpoint, at least for me. But it still has some turbulent moments, It's like he invites us to experience the ups and downs of his whole career since this is the theme of the program. And why I need to experience figure skating live someday. :laugh:

Morozombie hates Yuzuru's LP after he moved to Orser (hello I blame you David Wilson). But I guess now Morozombie loves Yuzuru again. Not that I mind if Morozombie turns his head against Yuzuru again though. :rolleye: His love is flicker like the aria La Dona e mobile. :noshake:

He redeemed himself with Notte Stelatta :p And of course props to Yuzuru for reaching a level where he's able to make justice to the program.
 
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On screen, we can see the audience applaud and cheer, we can share in their obvious excitement despite being thousands of miles away, but that ineffable connection between skater and audience must be experienced in person. How do I even begin to describe what it felt like being in the audience during Mr. Hanyu's long program performance? It was, for the lack of a better word, entirely hypnotizing. The thing I remember most were those tingly moments when it felt like the 13,000-strong audience at the Hartwall Arena was living and breathing as a single, very large organism--for example, the silent, expectant tension that felt like the entire arena was collectively holding its breath when Mr. Hanyu was setting up for his second-half 4S-3T combination and the huge, collective roar and lapse back into regular breathing patterns when he landed it perfectly. The universally ecstatic, deafening applause breaking out when Mr. Hanyu landed his final jumping pass--the 3Lz--that continued unabated until he finally left the ice to enter the kiss-and-cry. Seeing the sheer happiness of the people all around me--Russian, Japanese, Finnish, American, whatever--wiping their eyes, hugging each other spontaneously, and letting out the occasional guttural roar or scream.

Given the attendant peculiarities of the particular context in which Mr. Hanyu skated his long program at Worlds (the fifth-place short program performance, the extremely high level of competition, the quest to regain a long-awaited world title), in retrospect, it's understandable why Mr. Hanyu's long program at Worlds was so spellbinding--simply put, it was one of those otherwordly, possibility-expanding moments in sports that allowed the audience to access certain registers of experience far removed from quotidian existence: excitement, beauty, intensity, awe, suspense, greatness, greatness, and greatness.

Damn, I'm smiling again. He is so right on the money. :agree2: The complete strangers next to me, we both agreed it was beautiful. To the two Japanese ladies behind me I tell them "ureshii desu" and they repeat and nod so happily. Hugging random strangers. Sharing my pooh bear with fellow fans to hug in delight. It's amazing how one skater can lead to so many bonds, even if only for a moment. I know it's been a few days, but forgive me that I can't get over it quite yet :yahoo:.
 
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Depends on why they'd want to use the new GOE range for. Whether it's unfair or not, I'm not sure they've figured out what they want. At the time they commented about this, Yuzu had done NHK and GPF and talk was that there should be a wider range of differentiation in GOEs. At this point many skaters get +3 fairly easily without much differentiation so... maybe the +5 is for that?

Then again, it can be utterly abused to.

Yes exactly my point.

for example, skater A check 5 bullet points : entry, steps, height and distance, effortless, good flow,
skater B: varied position, entry, exit, steps, match to musical structure (but jump height and distance was not good and jumps are muscled)
They would get the same GOE bullet-point wise BUT if you watch it live skater A jumps would be more impressive and should have receive bigger GOE no? So I do think it is good if they somewhat alter it a bit :)
 
It has been such a long time since Morozombie writes a new blog: http://morozombie.blogspot.com/2017/04/on-ecstatic-experience.html#more

To paraphrase David Foster Wallace, watching figure skating on a screen is to live figure skating pretty much as watching pornography is to the felt reality of human love. Nowhere have I been more reminded of this fact than when I witnessed* Yuzuru Hanyu skate his Hope and Legacy long program at the 2017 World Figure Skating Championships in Helsinki last week.

One key aspect of a live figure skating performance that cannot be translated onto the screen is that somewhat vague and underdefined criterion listed in the "Performance/Execution" component of the official Program Components Score explanations: "[t]he skater radiates energy resulting in an invisible connection with the audience." I would say that the "energy" and "invisible connection" parts imply that such a performance becomes more than the sum of its parts by presenting an invitation to participate in something that exceeds the fetters of our immediate experiences, but whatever that criterion means, Mr. Hanyu's performance of his long program at Helsinki last week undeniably embodied it, and embodied it in spades. I have been fortunate to witness a number of indelible figure skating performances in person through the years, but I don't think I've ever had an experience as an audience member quite like what transpired at Hartwall Arena during Mr. Hanyu's long program.

On screen, we can see the audience applaud and cheer, we can share in their obvious excitement despite being thousands of miles away, but that ineffable connection between skater and audience must be experienced in person. How do I even begin to describe what it felt like being in the audience during Mr. Hanyu's long program performance? It was, for the lack of a better word, entirely hypnotizing. The thing I remember most were those tingly moments when it felt like the 13,000-strong audience at the Hartwall Arena was living and breathing as a single, very large organism--for example, the silent, expectant tension that felt like the entire arena was collectively holding its breath when Mr. Hanyu was setting up for his second-half 4S-3T combination and the huge, collective roar and lapse back into regular breathing patterns when he landed it perfectly. The universally ecstatic, deafening applause breaking out when Mr. Hanyu landed his final jumping pass--the 3Lz--that continued unabated until he finally left the ice to enter the kiss-and-cry. Seeing the sheer happiness of the people all around me--Russian, Japanese, Finnish, American, whatever--wiping their eyes, hugging each other spontaneously, and letting out the occasional guttural roar or scream.

Given the attendant peculiarities of the particular context in which Mr. Hanyu skated his long program at Worlds (the fifth-place short program performance, the extremely high level of competition, the quest to regain a long-awaited world title), in retrospect, it's understandable why Mr. Hanyu's long program at Worlds was so spellbinding--simply put, it was one of those otherwordly, possibility-expanding moments in sports that allowed the audience to access certain registers of experience far removed from quotidian existence: excitement, beauty, intensity, awe, suspense, greatness, greatness, and greatness.

I really need to watch a competition live before I die!
 

What are the chances that Misha is going to do a choreography for Yuzu (Maybe the EX)?
If i recall correctly, he said on twitter that next season he was going to work with one of the top skaters and during worlds he said that Brian gave him the approval to work with one of his students...
Now we see this and i can't help but feeling that it might not be the only thing they're going to do together...

I really need to watch a competition live before I die!
I started saving up since last year... It's been a dream of mine since i was four, but now i have a big motivation to go to one!
 
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What are the chances that Misha is going to do a choreography for Yuzu (Maybe the EX)?
If i recall correctly, he said on twitter that next season he was going to work with one of the top skaters and during worlds he said that Brian gave him the approval to work with one of his students...
Now we see this and i can't help but feeling that it might not be the only thing they're going to do together...

Not zero, Dwilson might be busy for oly season. But then again, I was assuming he would work with more junior skaters, not Yuzuru. And he was already working with top skater this season. Pogorilaya SP was (partially?) choreographed by him if I am not wrong.
 
Skating events can be weird. With big ones like worlds, I feel like the highs are so high (Helsinki) and then the lows are really low (Boston - I was a little teary the day after the free in Boston but maybe I wouldn't have been if I didn't go at all; I'm really not much of a crier). So it's kind of a gamble if you actually have a horse in the race. And a horse in the race is pretty much the only way I'd actually pay as much money as I do for these events. And it's not that I don't love skating for the sake of skating or else I'd only watch Yuzu last week. I could have been going to US Nationals for years, but...I'm not nearly as invested to spend the money and definitely not willing to give up the vacation time for it. I was looking at the prices for the Olympic trials and I'm pretty sure I'd pay more to attend those Nationals than I paid to attend worlds.
 
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Me too. But that would require funds I don't have. :laugh: Unless a competition takes place again in Spain one day.

I know it probably won't be the case if Javier isn't skating, but I wouldn't mind if GPF were in Barcelona every year. What a great crowd. I almost felt like I was there through the screen.

But you must go. I knew it would be different and better watching live, but I couldn't imagine how much. Maybe Milan isn't too far? I'm just so overflowing with joy that I want to buy a ticket for you!
 
I wasn't paying attention to FS then! My greatest regret. :sad21:

Oh, sorry for reminding of the scars, I didn't notice the date you registered here. :cry: At least you know that as long as Javier is competing there's chance of a competition being held there, or maybe a new skater might come along, who knows. I personally would love if all GPF were held in Barcelona lol They were well organized events with great audience.
 
I wasn't paying attention to FS then! My greatest regret. :sad21:

You are still in Europe, there will always be plenty of competition there. You can always fly/take train to TEB/CoR or GPF/worlds in Europe, I think ;)
IF he continues, you will have plenty of chances.
 
Skating events can be weird. With big ones like worlds, I feel like the highs are so high (Helsinki) and then the lows are really low (Boston). So it's kind of a gamble if you actually have a horse in the race. And a horse in the race is pretty much the only way I'd actually pay as much money as I do for these events. And it's not that I don't love skating for the sake of skating or else I'd only watch Yuzu this weekend. I could have been going to US Nationals for years, but...I'm not nearly as invested to spend the money and definitely not willing to give up the vacation time for it. I was looking at the prices for the Olympic trials and I'm pretty sure I'd pay more to attend those Nationals than I paid to attend worlds.

Exactly. I was just looking at those prices, and I don't think it's the best investment for me. Too many of my favorites are international skaters.
 
I know it probably won't be the case if Javier isn't skating, but I wouldn't mind if GPF were in Barcelona every year. What a great crowd. I almost felt like I was there through the screen.

But you must go. I knew it would be different and better watching live, but I couldn't imagine how much. Maybe Milan isn't too far? I'm just so overflowing with joy that I want to buy a ticket for you!

:laugh: The problem is not the ticket but always the other expenses (travel, room, food) and I'd need to save up for those. Maybe I'll consider Milan. Italy isn't too expensive. I am somewhat iffy on Milan Worlds, though, because it's post-Olympics and I have no idea how many of the skaters I like would attend. Then again, less stress that way and I could just enjoy the skating itself!
 
Not zero, Dwilson might be busy for oly season. But then again, I was assuming he would work with more junior skaters, not Yuzuru. And he was already working with top skater this season. Pogorilaya SP was (partially?) choreographed by him if I am not wrong.
Yeah, and he did work with some juniors too, right?
But idk, maybe is just me, but i would love to see a Yuzu EX with Misha's choreo :luv17: a dream come true
:laugh: The problem is not the ticket but always the other expenses (travel, room, food) and I'd need to save up for those. Maybe I'll consider Milan. Italy isn't too expensive. I am somewhat iffy on Milan Worlds, though, because it's post-Olympics and I have no idea how many of the skaters I like would attend. Then again, less stress that way and I could just enjoy the skating itself!

Milan is my backup plan in case Yuzu doesn't go to SC :/ Somehow i don't think he would want to skip World's?
 
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:laugh: The problem is not the ticket but always the other expenses (travel, room, food) and I'd need to save up for those.

You are quite right. But I never stay in hotels; my airbnb in Helsinki was so nice and cheap. And I found a shockingly low airfare so that is really why I went. Set the sale alerts now (although would you take the train?).

Maybe I'll consider Milan. Italy isn't too expensive. I am somewhat iffy on Milan Worlds, though, because it's post-Olympics and I have no idea how many of the skaters I like would attend. Then again, less stress that way and I could just enjoy the skating itself!

I'm wondering that too, but Yuzu being Yuzu, I think he will go.
 
I think Misha has amazing potential as a choreographer. But I am of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school. So for competitive programs, probably sticking with Jeff and Shae-Lynn would be best. At least with Notte Stellata, David Wilson has redeemed himself for RJ2 ;) (I know the music choice was Yuzu's fault. I'm glad he seems to realize now that he can create greater programs if he avoids overused music like RJ and POTO.)
 
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