Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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"He is pencil thin but packed with power"
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I'm not saying height isn't a factor at all, but I strongly doubt that it's the main factor in deciding how high someone can jump. In 10 cm smaller Yuzus jumps would still be huge, and in 10 cm bigger Shomas still wouldn't be (thanks to technique alone). What I'm disagreeing with is Yuzu not being able to do quads if he was shorter (especially since we have short quad jumpers out there. Nathan is a pretty short and slender guy too).
As for the research, of course that's scientific stuff, but in the end, take it with a grain of salt too. I am a researcher, and it's basically a miracle if you don't find a publication where there is abother directly contradicting it. I'm sure I read a scientific research that said 4As are impossible once
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And it has a lot to do with timing, with the fact who is the coach or who is the president of ISU. See Kostner, she was the saviour of European ladies after Slutskaya's retirement, but judges loved her whatever she did on the ice (and she often had a meltdown), accidentally the president of the ISU was Italian during this time.
It's similar with Javi, he's the saviour the European men at the moment, the difference is that he is way more consistent than Kostner ever was, and he doesn't get any (political) help from his fed. He improved a lot and worked hard for his success but let's repeat one of the judges words: to a certain level, it always counts which coach is sitting with the skater in the k&c.
You mean the Fed that has the daughter of ex CIO president Samaranch as ex President and now as ISU council member? Yep, sure, Spanish Federation has no political links at all and it does not help whatsover their only star
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Mr Samarach from Spain was president of IOC for over 20 years... his daughter is in ISU council and his son (if I remember correctly) is also in IOC council.You mean the Fed that has the daughter of ex CIO president Samaranch as ex President and now as ISU council member? Yep, sure, Spanish Federation has no political links at all and it does not help whatsover their only star
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You mean the Fed that has the daughter of ex CIO president Samaranch as ex President and now as ISU council member? Yep, sure, Spanish Federation has no political links at all and it does not help whatsover their only star
This! ^^
Whenever I read that, I have to raise my eyebrow. Samaranch, well, the power that man held was immense, he was a giant of the IOC and the IOC is ... and the connections that always get passed on, the massive power of the name and family ... plus all she has done and is. There is political pull there, tons of it.
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Oh yes! He's been a member of the IOC since the early 2000s, he's also of course a member of the Spanish OC and more. Powerful, powerful family (see the wrestling controversy with the IOC where he had a hand).
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You mean the Fed that has the daughter of ex CIO president Samaranch as ex President and now as ISU council member? Yep, sure, Spanish Federation has no political links at all and it does not help whatsover their only star
True, but seemingly she/her family and connections didn't do anything at all to improve the sport in the country. I don't want to guess why she is in that position, though.
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Yes, she could have done something useful for figure skating in Spain. There are talented kids here but they have almost no chance to get on Javi's level. And when Javi retires we will have no more FS broadcasts probably
.Btw Side by side slow motion 4T russian junior vs Yuzuru I tried to translate what the post says but it doesn't make much sense.
Interesting stuff guys
In my opinion I am quite skeptical to the idea of quints, there was triple attempts quite a while before they become the norm at competitions and the same with the quads. Also more importantly, with the great equipment and data available there is no data that really deems it possible. For a human body to be physically able to rotate 5 1/2 rotations is very different from it being something one actual person can learn to do somewhat consistently. Also the "being able to rotate" fact is not the same as being able to land such a jump safely - or really at all. I could perhaps imagine a scenario where someone does an extreme yolo-overrotated quad where they do rotate 5 times but crashes quite hard.
Like the report said, pencil thin (and it is funny that it is the description of Yuzuru used by Simon Reed). Yuzuru does seem to have perhaps the best combination of features for the maximum rotations possible, but it is also due to his excellent technique. I really want to see the quad axel he did at TCC (this sentence does not feel real, I mean he actually quite possibly landed a QUAD AXEL), cause by looking at what kind of landing he did I think one could speculate how possible a quint or the quad axel itself as a possible consistent jump could be.
I mean Brian Orser saying that we will definitely see a quad axel one day is what gives me hope
In my opinion I am quite skeptical to the idea of quints, there was triple attempts quite a while before they become the norm at competitions and the same with the quads. Also more importantly, with the great equipment and data available there is no data that really deems it possible. For a human body to be physically able to rotate 5 1/2 rotations is very different from it being something one actual person can learn to do somewhat consistently. Also the "being able to rotate" fact is not the same as being able to land such a jump safely - or really at all. I could perhaps imagine a scenario where someone does an extreme yolo-overrotated quad where they do rotate 5 times but crashes quite hard.
Like the report said, pencil thin (and it is funny that it is the description of Yuzuru used by Simon Reed
). Yuzuru does seem to have perhaps the best combination of features for the maximum rotations possible, but it is also due to his excellent technique. I really want to see the quad axel he did at TCC (this sentence does not feel real, I mean he actually quite possibly landed a QUAD AXEL), cause by looking at what kind of landing he did I think one could speculate how possible a quint or the quad axel itself as a possible consistent jump could be.I mean Brian Orser saying that we will definitely see a quad axel one day is what gives me hope
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Probably means that he saw 4A already?
Since my post#500 is about quad axel, I will make a wish
Probably means that he saw 4A already?
Since my post#500 is about quad axel, I will make a wish
Exactly my thinking, does anyone know when he said this though? I want to see if it correlates with Ambesi's spy's report
This person thought the timing and use of the upper body resembled someone and tried comparing them. Don't know if I see it.
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It is what I understood as well. Iirc this girl is from Eteri group, probably they study Yuzuru's jumping tecnique
Exactly my thinking, does anyone know when he said this though? I want to see if it correlates with Ambesi's spy's report
Around 4CC, maybe?
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Sorry 
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the best thing that will happen if Yuzu ended up with Zenya is their Future baby, I can't imagine what kind of a Monster these two can create, maybe a crazy quint jumper with the best consistency in the World
I hope the baby boy will look like Echizen Ryoma, from 'the prince of Tennis' anime tho
topic:the best thing that will happen if Yuzu ended up with Zenya is their Future baby, I can't imagine what kind of a Monster these two can create, maybe a crazy quint jumper with the best consistency in the World
I hope the baby boy will look like Echizen Ryoma, from 'the prince of Tennis' anime tho
To build a sport and to use political influence for other things are not the same
For the former you need invested people that wants to work at lower levels (kids, school) with little visibility and gain.
It's the same with Cinquanta and Italy, btw. The man had a lot of power, but what good did he do for the sports root-base? And still, you can't deny his influence and power was something. The two things are not connected, tho.
I don't want to guess either, I just find funny that with so many people involved and interested in sports, you keep finding the same names - across all disciplines and sports - in old IOC and (especially) European Federations. Must be a coincidence.
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Thank you, I thought is was earlier then Worlds. I checked tweets about Miki Ando mentioning it and Ambesi also, it was around 27-29 March. And Brian interview was around this time also. Interesting...
From Massimiliano Ambesi Facebook page 2016-2017 season best scores
So quick 
https://twitter.com/wahuwahueriko/status/856704193540767744
"Hanyu-kun is No. 1 in Japan.
No, no, he is No. 1 in the world."
https://twitter.com/wahuwahueriko/status/856704193540767744
"Hanyu-kun is No. 1 in Japan.
No, no, he is No. 1 in the world."
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