Yuzuru Hanyu: 2017-2018

[jace93]

Chasse is good for short distance. Crossover is good for long distance. Crossover is the fastest and easiest way to gain speed. Hanyu does not use many crossovers to gain speed, for the like of him, using such easy tool to gain speed isn't ideal. So for Hanyu to use chasse to gain speed, it's quite interesting as this move is for short distance but he still gains much speed thanks to it. This is why his skating is amazing.

I can see in Hanyu the preference for intricate footwork which looks more effortless and rhythmic than most men out there. Chasse is originated from ballet, it is rhythmic but harder to use for long distance. However it helps creating a flowy feeling of the skating, especially with his flexible knee bend that move with the music.

In short, Hanyu uses a short distance move to gain greater speed than most other skaters who use the move for long distance. This method is not new, some old coaches are still thinking the same style. For example I think Brian Orser's old coach, Doug Leigh also has the same mentality. He once gave Brian Orser a program without any crossover at all.

In the latter generation, my Russian coach doesn't like it when a skater does more than 3 crossovers in a row. Hanyu is the only man I can think of to qualify her criteria (maybe Chan at his prime also).

Among ladies, I would say Tutberidze's students fulfill that idea very well. Medvedeva and Zagitova and that very tall girl I forgot how to spell her name. They all use very few crossovers. Only 6-8 crossovers in the short program. Some people might complain that these Tutberidze's girls are slower than other girls but using less crossovers is very good for them in the long term. As they develop their skating, using more difficult turns on 1 foot continuously will help them to improve their skating skills. I think Tutberidze understands basic skating very well and she is applying the robotic way, less organic style on her students but it's very down to earth and help her students get fast results. She originated from ice dance after all. She doesn't let her students abuse the crossovers aka the more labored way to gain speed.

Thanks, that was really informative=)

 

[Interspectator]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5u2rhq A Japanese Karate Champion, Shimizu-senshu, says she watches Yuzuru Hanyu to learn about presentation, how to center the body's axis, use muscles etc. :agree:

 

[Interspectator]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuZb3Olc9e/ This is funny. Yuzu's tourism poster needs 24 hour security to prevent theft.

 

[iorii]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuZb3Olc9e/ This is funny. Yuzu's tourism poster needs 24 hour security to prevent theft.

Has anything like this happened before? He's like a k-idol. I know one time where EXO Lay's cutout cardboard got stolen by some fanboys and captured by security camera, but I didn't know such thing could happen to figure skaters too! (or it's because it's Yuzuru Hanyu)

 

[Interspectator]

https://twitter.com/Iron_Klaus/status/887759818500558848 Yuzu's donations to Ice Rink Sendai have helped buy a new shuttle bus for students.

 

[iorii]

https://twitter.com/Iron_Klaus/status/887759818500558848 Yuzu's donations to Ice Rink Sendai have helped buy a new shuttle bus for students.

That's very nice. But the tweet says 'probably'?

I don't know if this has been posted before, but I found this site that features Yuzuru while looking for design references back then. Lovely shots. http://weekend-sendai.com/

There's a nice autoplay video with high FPS on his own page http://weekend-sendai.com/hanyu.html

 

[Interspectator]

That's very nice. But the tweet says 'probably'?

I don't know if this has been posted before, but I found this site that features Yuzuru while looking for design references back then. Lovely shots. http://weekend-sendai.com/

There's a nice autoplay video with high FPS on his own page http://weekend-sendai.com/hanyu.html

Yes, it's 'probably'.

 

[yude]

That's very nice. But the tweet says 'probably'?

I don't know if this has been posted before, but I found this site that features Yuzuru while looking for design references back then. Lovely shots. http://weekend-sendai.com/

There's a nice autoplay video with high FPS on his own page http://weekend-sendai.com/hanyu.html

Seeing Yuzuru eating something always warms my heart :luv17: I have been to Sendai twice but it was before I became Yuzuru's fan. Food of Sendai were all delicious, I especially enjoyed oysters. Yuzuru says he likes Zundamochi as in video and he always has Gyutan-bento (beef tongue lunch) when he travels to Tokyo (I think he means he has it in airplane or bullet train).

 

[DorYiu]

Seeing Yuzuru eating something always warms my heart :luv17:

I am in the same club as well! :luv17: every time seeing him eat, that's the moment I feel like "oh, he is only 22 years old." He is our "absolute king" but he is also a boy, happy and satisfy with the delicious food in front of him.

I haven't never been to Sendai before, but I do make up my mind that I will go someday, 2 of my favourite persons were from Sendai, Yuzu and writer, Isaka Kotaro.

Chasse is good for short distance. Crossover is good for long distance. Crossover is the fastest and easiest way to gain speed. Hanyu does not use many crossovers to gain speed, for the like of him, using such easy tool to gain speed isn't ideal. So for Hanyu to use chasse to gain speed, it's quite interesting as this move is for short distance but he still gains much speed thanks to it. This is why his skating is amazing.
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She originated from ice dance after all. She doesn't let her students abuse the crossovers aka the more labored way to gain speed.

This is so detail! Thank you so much!

 

[xeyra]

Has this been posted yet? NHK 2017 schedule.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

Among ladies, I would say Tutberidze's students fulfill that idea very well. Medvedeva and Zagitova and that very tall girl I forgot how to spell her name. They all use very few crossovers. Only 6-8 crossovers in the short program. Some people might complain that these Tutberidze's girls are slower than other girls but using less crossovers is very good for them in the long term. As they develop their skating, using more difficult turns on 1 foot continuously will help them to improve their skating skills. I think Tutberidze understands basic skating very well and she is applying the robotic way, less organic style on her students but it's very down to earth and help her students get fast results. She originated from ice dance after all. She doesn't let her students abuse the crossovers aka the more labored way to gain speed.

Polina Tsurskaya?

And Eteri always says she admires Yuzus skating, so I guess it's no wonder her students are the closest to Yuzu in the few crossovers camp. It's also one of the things about his skating that I like, and contributes to him looking very agile, quick and effortless to me on the ice. Thanks for the great post!

 

[Ender]

Polina Tsurskaya?

And Eteri always says she admires Yuzus skating, so I guess it's no wonder her students are the closest to Yuzu in the few crossovers camp. It's also one of the things about his skating that I like, and contributes to him looking very agile, quick and effortless to me on the ice. Thanks for the great post!

Yes, that's her name. I am not good at remembering names in particular. I am better at remembering their faces. About Hanyu's skating, I think he already had deep edge before going to Orser. I don't get why some people said Hanyu had weak skating skills before Orser. That was completely wrong. His basics were quite strong by the time he's 17.

I have just watched several videos of his era before Orser and I think his skating was already smooth and fast. During step sequence he did the difficult turns and steps so fast and effortless with great natural sensitivity to the music. I think he was more spontaneous and didn't get a whole of his total energy when young. I think going to Orser certainly helps Hanyu getting near to the more ideal skating style, like using less crossovers to make the skating look more effortless, less labored. Hanyu also has paid more attention to the various details in skating that he didn't do before.

I am sure Hanyu is pretty much aware of his issues, but he must have had some very good help from other coaches other than Orser at Cricket Club. I would say that's Tracy Wilson. She was a great ice dancer and her attention to details in basic is great. However it's not like other skaters at Cricket Club obtain the same care for details like Hanyu. I start wondering maybe it's from Doug Leigh at Mariposa, as Hanyu also goes there to get choreography from Jeffrey Buttler. Anyway, whoever they were or have been, Hanyu certainly has absorbed all their greatness.

Needless to say, his good knee bend has already been there, his sharpness in each turn has been there at the age of 17.

 

[Interspectator]

Yes, that's her name. I am not good at remembering names in particular. I am better at remembering their faces. About Hanyu's skating, I think he already had deep edge before going to Orser. I don't get why some people said Hanyu had weak skating skills before Orser. That was completely wrong. His basics were quite strong by the time he's 17.

I have just watched several videos of his era before Orser and I think his skating was already smooth and fast. During step sequence he did the difficult turns and steps so fast and effortless with great natural sensitivity to the music. I think he was more spontaneous and didn't get a whole of his total energy when young. I think going to Orser certainly helps Hanyu getting near to the more ideal skating style, like using less crossovers to make the skating look more effortless, less labored. Hanyu also has paid more attention to the various details in skating that he didn't do before.

I am sure Hanyu is pretty much aware of his issues, but he must have had some very good help from other coaches other than Orser at Cricket Club. I would say that's Tracy Wilson. She was a great ice dancer and her attention to details in basic is great. However it's not like other skaters at Cricket Club obtain the same care for details like Hanyu. I start wondering maybe it's from Doug Leigh at Mariposa, as Hanyu also goes there to get choreography from Jeffrey Buttler. Anyway, whoever they were or have been, Hanyu certainly has absorbed all their greatness.

Needless to say, his good knee bend has already been there, his sharpness in each turn has been there at the age of 17.

I agree that Yuzu had nice edges and good speed before his move to Canada. One can see this especially in his Etude SP.
Here's a beautiful photo from last year's NHK. https://twitter.com/xoxomyseries/status/887807333857939457 --tomorrow we get a bit of video from Figure Skate TV, don't forget. Yay!

 

[yude]

Has this been posted yet? NHK 2017 schedule.

Thanks for posting! I have already submitted an application for a paid holiday on Friday during NHK I'm not going to the venue but I have to sit all day in front of TV and PC and I'm doing this every year...

 

[iorii]

Thanks for posting! I have already submitted an application for a paid holiday on Friday during NHK I'm not going to the venue but I have to sit all day in front of TV and PC and I'm doing this every year...

That's wonderful, I would like to do that too. But no channel on my TV subscription airs figure skating and I'm not gonna rely on livestream with uncertain quality for a paid holiday

Last 4CC (or Worlds?) I tabbed between livestream and work, my boss caught me but he only commented gleefully, 'oh you like figure skating? Sometimes I watch it at night too, before going to sleep!'

Sorry for going OOT! Here is a beautiful photo of beautiful Yuzu in beautiful spread eagle! https://twitter.com/wioveriyw/status/887958426424229890

 

[Henni147]

I've just thought about some fitting programmes for Yuzuru in the future (not necessarily the Olympic season) and popped into James Horner's film score for Avatar.
If I think about it - Yuzuru wasn't really sure about a figure skater career in the first place, but considered baseball as well. Today you can say, he truly became an Avatar of figure skating.

I've played with Photoshop a little and that's approximately how I imagine Yuzu as an Avatar:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Henni147/status/888415294343045121

 

[DorYiu]

I've just thought about some fitting programmes for Yuzuru in the future (not necessarily the Olympic season) and popped into James Horner's film score for Avatar.
If I think about it - Yuzuru wasn't really sure about a figure skater career in the first place, but considered baseball as well. Today you can say, he truly became an Avatar of figure skating.

I've played with Photoshop a little and that's approximately how I imagine Yuzu as an Avatar:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Henni147/status/888415294343045121

WOW, that's a nice artwork that you did.

I was actually thinking about the same thing last week, music that would work for Yuzu, I was thinking about Howl's moving castle, I am sure "merry-go-round of life" will become a beautiful program.

 

[yude]

WOW, that's a nice artwork that you did.

I was actually thinking about the same thing last week, music that would work for Yuzu, I was thinking about Howl's moving castle, I am sure "merry-go-round of life" will become a beautiful program.

That's a great choice I hope Yuzuru's team won't have to visit Hisaishi's office if he skates to it

 

[yude]

That's wonderful, I would like to do that too. But no channel on my TV subscription airs figure skating and I'm not gonna rely on livestream with uncertain quality for a paid holiday

Last 4CC (or Worlds?) I tabbed between livestream and work, my boss caught me but he only commented gleefully, 'oh you like figure skating? Sometimes I watch it at night too, before going to sleep!'

Sorry for going OOT! Here is a beautiful photo of beautiful Yuzu in beautiful spread eagle! https://twitter.com/wioveriyw/status/887958426424229890

Sorry to hear your situation, I hope we're going to have good live streams this year since it's Olympic season! You have a nice boss, I also watch figure skating before I go to sleep (I mean, Yuzuru's programs ). Lucky thing is, my current boss doesn't ask me why I 'm taking paid holidays. Boss in the past was always curious why and asked me like "Where are you going? Are you going to the concert? Or Kabuki?" and I answered "yes...something like that"

 

[jace93]

Seeing how all the young guys are pulling out all the stop on the technical side, do you think Yuzuru will try the quadruple Lutz too?