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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2017-2018

Hi there, not a big follower of mens, but I did watch the event at the Olympics. Great stuff, especially Hanyu's performances. I was just randomly wondering, has he skated in China since they banned Winnie the Pooh? Like it's got me wondering...what will the audience throw onto the ice in that case if he goes to Cup of China or something? :unsure:

This? Or this? It doesn't have Pooh's name anywhere on it, just a yellow bear wearing a costume :laugh:
 
Yuzuru Hanyu (more or less) sings on Japanese TV! ;)
https://twitter.com/mamiyuzu519/status/994912181169803264
Lol I when “Brian” appeared hahaha
And at the end where Pooh-sans are thrown and Yuzurenai hugged “Brian”... “Shoma” was standing there looking like he thought “what am I doing here” just like the real Shoma being adorably awkward when he was in the group hug with Javi!

This Yuzurenai guy, was he someone famous before he stared doing Yuzu cosplay? Or did he became famous for doing it?
 
Not new info but this is an article by Sportiva published yesterday, it is about the rule change.

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2018/05/11/30/index.php

Next season's figure skating likely to result in a major revision of the rules will be officially decided at the general meeting of International Skating Union (ISU) to be held in Spain in June. In addition to revising rules on scoring, such as the base value of the jump is lowered than before, and the grading of execution point (GOE) is expanded from 7 stages of plus or minus 3 to 11 stages of plus or minus 5, there is possibility that men's free skating will change greatly in particular.

The performance time is shortened from the current 4 minutes and 30 seconds to 4 minutes, and accompanying this, the number of jumps will also be reduced from 8 to 7. It will be the same as women's free skating.

It is said that the intention of former ISU president Ottavio Cinquanta worked significantly for this revision. Mr. Cinquanta, an Italian and was Short track speed skater, has for some time asked the question "Why does it have to be 4 minutes and 30 seconds only for men in figure skating?" and suggested that it should be 4 minutes as well as women's. Furthermore, in recent years, it seems there is also an aspect of reducing the burden on men whose jumping is highly developed.

What kind of program is going to be when the performance time is shortened and the number of jumps decreases by one? Mr. Nobuhiko Yoshioka who experienced the position of the strengthening director of Japan Skating Federation and currently has been active as an international referee expects as follows.

"When the jumps change from eight to seven, you probably will respond by reducing the easiest jump. For example, in Hanyu's program, he is not going to jump like 3F coming lightly from the step. You could say that it is enough."

However, it can not be said clearly that if the burden will decrease as the time becomes short.

"If you are a skater who can jump without stress in the music, you can cope with this change as a matter of course, but for skaters who need the preparation for the jumps, the loss of 30 seconds of performance time may have huge influence. Because there is not enough room to show the whole program, such as transition (the link of the elements), etc. As the ISU intends, even if you set it for 4 minutes to reduce the load of men, the skaters jump quads may actually be burdened more." (Mr. Yoshioka)

On the other hand, there is concern that the highlight of appealing skating and powerful performance from male skaters may be fading due to shortening of the time, but Mr. Yoshioka says, "Ladies and junior boys are showing the program attracts the fans in 4 minutes".

"Comprehensively, I think it will be even more advantageous for skillful skaters with higher levels, which will make it easier for telling the difference in ability. In the sense that the skaters who can jump in the music will be advantageous, I think it is going to be in a good direction as a result for figure skating." (Mr. Yoshioka)

In addition, in this revision of the rules, a topic of the restrictions in some form to the bonus rule that the jump in the second half of the program is scored 1.1 times the base value has been emerging quickly. In the background, it is not hard to imagine that it was influenced by Alina Zagitova's strongest program, vivid senior debut in the Olympic season, which has made her rise to the queen's position.

Originally this bonus rule was to prevent all the difficult jumps in the first half of the program and to become a latter half empty. Then, the skater having all the jumps in the second half aiming at increasing the score appeared. From the original purpose of the jumps should be arranged in the balanced way throughout the program, this would also be a kind of deviation.

Mr. Yoshioka who evaluates Zagitova's program "has been slightly deviated from the original good figure skating" says, "It seems they are considering the limitation of the number of jumps in the second half, or/and the score of 1.1 times base value applies to only last three jumps, for example."

If the rules are revised as just described, it is expected that the quality of each element will be raised and the direction of the completion level of the program as a whole will increase. For the coming season, many skaters may be showing the programs look more appealing than ever.

text by Synn Yinha


So... do you think Yuzuru will say bye-bye to 3F at last?
 
Yes. If the "all types of jumps" bonus comes in, maybe he'll try to train a 3A-1Lo-3F, but I'm not sure if he can make sure he'll be stable with the proper edge like that? He probably could, he doesn't lip (and hasn't for a really long time). But maybe he puts in 3F relatively early in so he can focus more on the edge.
 
Lol I when “Brian” appeared hahaha
And at the end where Pooh-sans are thrown and Yuzurenai hugged “Brian”... “Shoma” was standing there looking like he thought “what am I doing here” just like the real Shoma being adorably awkward when he was in the group hug with Javi!

This Yuzurenai guy, was he someone famous before he stared doing Yuzu cosplay? Or did he became famous for doing it?

He was not famous, like, at all, he was no one!! (by the way, I still don't know his real name but it is okay since he is a comedian.) I watched this last night by accident and I burst out laughing when Orser appeard :drama: Well, I don't think Yuzurenai look alike Yuzuru, but he is a good singer :shocked: I hope he sings without cosplay lol.

If I am not wrong, he is going to be in TV program tonight, too, with these skaters (https://twitter.com/taiikukaitv/status/995120409224740864).
 
Yes. If the "all types of jumps" bonus comes in, maybe he'll try to train a 3A-1Lo-3F, but I'm not sure if he can make sure he'll be stable with the proper edge like that? He probably could, he doesn't lip (and hasn't for a really long time). But maybe he puts in 3F relatively early is so he can focus more on the edge.

Oh, I forgot about that! (it is a proposal from Japan :laugh:) 3A-1Lo-3F, sounds interesting, new sequence for him :)
 
Yuki Ishikawa, a volleyball player, talked about Yuzuru in the Olympics.

"I thought the performance of Hanyu Yuzuru san was awesome, he looked confident. I felt his willpower in the performance. I simply thought the gold medal was great (he means he also wishes he could have gold medal) and I realized again that I wanted to play on the stage where we could aim for the medal."

https://twitter.com/YuumiChan11/status/994958320246046720
 
Lol I when “Brian” appeared hahaha
And at the end where Pooh-sans are thrown and Yuzurenai hugged “Brian”... “Shoma” was standing there looking like he thought “what am I doing here” just like the real Shoma being adorably awkward when he was in the group hug with Javi!

This Yuzurenai guy, was he someone famous before he stared doing Yuzu cosplay? Or did he became famous for doing it?
Here is more of him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_lLMDb3Iw
 
He was not famous, like, at all, he was no one!! (by the way, I still don't know his real name but it is okay since he is a comedian.) I watched this last night by accident and I burst out laughing when Orser appeard :drama: Well, I don't think Yuzurenai look alike Yuzuru, but he is a good singer :shocked: I hope he sings without cosplay lol.

If I am not wrong, he is going to be in TV program tonight, too, with these skaters (https://twitter.com/taiikukaitv/status/995120409224740864).

It’ll be interesting to see the skaters’ reactions if he shows up with a yuzu cosplay!

I don’t think he looks similar to yuzu either haha.
 
Yuzuru’s 3F out of steps is so beautiful it’d be such a shame to take it out :( but yeah, I guess unless there’s the all jump types bonus, the 3F will be most likely to get cut

Yes. If the "all types of jumps" bonus comes in, maybe he'll try to train a 3A-1Lo-3F, but I'm not sure if he can make sure he'll be stable with the proper edge like that? He probably could, he doesn't lip (and hasn't for a really long time). But maybe he puts in 3F relatively early is so he can focus more on the edge.

Oh, I forgot about that! (it is a proposal from Japan :laugh:) 3A-1Lo-3F, sounds interesting, new sequence for him :)

Can’t he put the 3A after the Flip in the jump sequence? That way he would have better edge control... or is it not allowed/impossible? I remember reading something about jump sequence in the rules proposal, which, to be honest, I didn’t quite understand hahaha Can someone explain?
 
Yuzuru lands on his right foot.

3A means he lands on a right back outside edge. The 3F needs to be a left back inside edge, and so he needs to add the 1Lo.

He could do a 3F+3A+SEQ, but that won't get as many points because it's not a combo.
 
Yuzuru lands on his right foot.

3A means he lands on a right back outside edge. The 3F needs to be a left back inside edge, and so he needs to add the 1Lo.

He could do a 3F+3A+SEQ, but that won't get as many points because it's not a combo.
Ahh, thank you. So both are valid but putting the 3A first is better score-wise.
 
I wasnt a fan tbh, but why level 2?

Some time after Seimei's original StSq was choreographed, there was a rule change on what constituted difficult steps and turns and how many you needed for each level. As such, the original Seimei steps no longer fit the requirements for level 4. And sadly didn't meet the requirements for even level 3 at ACI, possibly because he made a mistake on a turn or step that lowered the level even further. They redid the step sequence to match level 4 requirements but he continued to have at least one issue per outing that kept it at level 3. If I remember correctly, the only time he hit level 4 on Seimei's steps was at Boston Worlds.

He didn't have nearly as many issues with steps levels with H&L, where he mostly got level 4s across the season.
 
"When the jumps change from eight to seven, you probably will respond by reducing the easiest jump. For example, in Hanyu's program, he is not going to jump like 3F coming lightly from the step. You could say that it is enough."

So... do you think Yuzuru will say bye-bye to 3F at last?
I pray that he doesn't. In my opinion Yuzu's 3F is the definition of a perfect camouflage-jump. It doesn't even appear as a technical element but rather like a special move in his step sequence. His back-counter 3A and se-4S-se dito. I don't know any other skater, who can merge jumps into the choreo like Yuzu does.
If he has to drop his 3F because of the rule change, that would be a slap in the face for everyone, who loves artistry in figure skating and ISU can blame himself for that loss. :dev2:


They have to decide, which kind of figure skating they want to see in the future:

Route (A): A selection of high quality elements (technically AND artistically).
Idea: Let the skater do, what he can do best and reduce mistakes.

Route (B): Technical diversity with all types of jumps.
Idea: Force the skater to show everything, even if it lacks artistic quality and mistakes are more likely to happen. It's a sport after all.

If you ask me, the Zayak-rule and overall number of two repeats (quads and triples) is a massive restriction for the skater anyway. Today you can't talk about a 'free' skate anymore.

Little brainstorming:
Skater A delivers a clean program with all six types of jumps, but with two miles of preparation, small height and sloppy landings.
Skater B doesn't show the Loop (for example), but every other jump with difficult step sequences in and out, remarkable height and graceful landings.

Well, it's no question for me, whom I want to see on top of the podium... :confused2:
 
It’ll be interesting to see the skaters’ reactions if he shows up with a yuzu cosplay!

The program has just ended and it was soooo funny (at least to me) :rofl: Please be prepared for Alina's face when Yuzurenai showed up, I LOVED her reaction and couldn't stop laughing. The program was about 3 hours length and they gave about 1 hour for figure skating, the skaters challenged 4 kinds of games and they were very interesting. I hope we're going to have video :)
 
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