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Honestly, I was surprised by his music choices. I thought he would choose something modern for at least one of his programs but he unexpectedly ended up with such original musics. I'm even more surprised it's what he likes and always wanted to skate to. Personally I'm totally fine with it, it's not exactly to my taste though. Program wise, It's different from his usual style, the music is dramatic and dynamic and I have no doubt of Bourne's choreography. I totally can see judges would like it.
After watching some small footages of his practice, I have to say his free skate has great potentials to become another masterpiece if he skates it clean in competitions and I'm sure with his superior quality of jumps and skating, it won't overshadowed by Plushenko's program.

To someone who has followed Hanyu a bit like me, it's not surprising because he has always been fanboying Plushenko and Weir, since his youngest years. Weir influence is quite evident but he wouldn't have become Plushenko's fan if he hadn't liked his programs. Nijinsky is is possibly the most memorable program of Plushenko's, it must have etched itself in young Hanyu's mind just like in ours. :laugh: So now when he's in a position to do whatever he wants, well, he does.


I think Hanyu has become quite cerebral regarding his skating. It's not "awesome music, I wanna skate to that!" with him anymore. It's all about the message right now and his current music choices reflect that. If he just wanted to do Nijinsky because he loves the music and watching Plushenko do it in a show for a hundreth time made him do it, he wouldn't have chosen Otonal as his SP. He has already done a full-on tribute to Weir with his Swan ex, and Otonal sounds very much like his comfort zone. It sounds like the program choices are a result of quite a bit of soul-searching, and the result is, aptly named, origins.

Anyway, I'm hoping he will be able to include the trademark Nijinsky steps somehow!
 
Anyway, I'm hoping he will be able to include the trademark Nijinsky steps somehow!
It's some kind of a double edged sword... Nijinsky's trademark, yes. But it's Plushy's as well and I don't think, Yuzu wants to copy him. (I might be wrong...)

We'll see some parallels between both programs for sure, but at the end of the day Yuzu will try to create something new. Something very special, that's my guess :hap10:
 
It's some kind of a double edged sword... Nijinsky's trademark, yes. But it's Plushy's as well and I don't think, Yuzu wants to copy him. (I might be wrong...)

We'll see some parallels between both programs for sure, but at the end of the day Yuzu will try to create something new. Something very special, that's my guess :hap10:

I think there'd be no danger of being accused of copying as long as the rest of it is different, because what's the point of a tribute if you don't include a bitty bit of an original in it, and so far it's actually very little Plushenko and very much Hanyu in terms of skating style. To the point that now I'm not sure if a choreo sequence consisting of steps on his toe picks wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb, in a negative way. I want it, but I'm afraid of actually getting it... :biggrin:
 
You guys must be all too young to remember that Otonal was one of the most overused music pieces in figure skating for years and years. It is one of those well forgotten warhorses. Old fashioned too. I'm not a fan of his music choices for the upcoming season. I get his reasons but boy oh boy this should be a hard season for me.

Now you know how I felt every time Let´s Go Crazy started... boy do I dislike that music
 
Yuzu is so poetic. He says he is free from expectations from the public to skate to win. And what's so pure about him is that he is skating for his younger self just for the sake of skating. There's nothing more pure in life than doing what you love and not caring about what the world demands or expects of you. I'm so happy Yuzu is free from public expectations. Hope we don't ses him retire soon. Just hoping he will leave us with breathtaking programs that will last centuries. He is going to become the Shakespeare of Figure Skating. A pure artist. [emoji7]
 
Hey guys I know that there's a section on the forum for sales and stuff but just in case, if you happen to know someone selling an All Event or Saturday ticket for ACI, please, please let me know, I'm willing to pay way over their original price, I'm desperate :laugh:

And to stay on topics, I freaking LOVE his music choices, specially Otoñal, and the choreography is looking beautiful, cannot wait to see the programs :luv17:

As for the costumes, Johnny has had his hit and misses, admittedly more misses that hits but lets remain hopeful :laugh:
 
More than a tribute to his idols, I perceive these choices fron him more like a closure to his young self as a skater, in perfect timing now that the pressure is a little bit off and to start over on a new path. Like a breath with a little glance back before to launch yourself forward in a new adventure in FS (and the idea of 4A, that will be not so easy to land well - on Yuzu standard - in competition ...) and then also in life.

And I have to say I am really happy not only for his choices (i liked always so much that FS of Plushy) but - more - because he chose them: you can feel finally a sense of acomplishment that he is starting to realize, and also he understood what is the right thing to do as human being and athlete in this point of his life, i.e. something for himself without the pressure of the thought of the others (also if I am not sure he will really able completely to do it).

Well said. He's entering the final chapter(s) of his career. Hanyu has already accomplished so much it's nice to see him skate for himself.
 
Hey guys I know that there's a section on the forum for sales and stuff but just in case, if you happen to know someone selling an All Event or Saturday ticket for ACI, please, please let me know, I'm willing to pay way over their original price, I'm desperate :laugh:

And to stay on topics, I freaking LOVE his music choices, specially Otoñal, and the choreography is looking beautiful, cannot wait to see the programs :luv17:

As for the costumes, Johnny has had his hit and misses, admittedly more misses that hits but lets remain hopeful :laugh:

I believe someone was selling an All Event for ACI but packaged with Skate Canada tickets in the For Sale section.
 
Yuzuru Hanyu - turning buzzing about 4A into a separate element and perfecting it's technique.:ohwell:
 
I am still “old” enough to remember “the beautiful blonde lady won WC with it” (Maria). And please it is not like people use it again and again like Carmen & POTO. It is not “never before” but it is tested to work well for ice skating programs. Also the short program is short people will not notice it is a boring piece of music. They use music with repetitive motifs all the times for short programs lol.

You know what- had you really remembered it that well you wouldn't call the winner like that- you'd name her and give a link to her skate. Then that music was used not only by winners, because it was well skated by winners many young and not so young skaters who wanted to get some recognition also used that music with lots of sub par performances that were soon forgotten. Just because some music is not used that much anymore- it is only because new times bring new tastes and new arrangements that sound more up to date to overall tastes.
To me Otonal already sounded old fashioned when Johnny skated to it.
 
How can music be old-fashioned in FS? Kolyada just did Elvis Presley. Javier just did a program to music from 1936. Keegan Messing is stuck in the 50s. People do Mozart...
 
I don't mind legacy programs. I love Lambiel's little nod to Yagudin in his 4 Seasons FS. I suspect these will be in the same ballpark. With that said, I don't find those pieces of music particularly inspiring, especially Otonal -- it's a bit flat.

Judging by how precious Yuzuru seems to be with his own programs (see the 400 adjustments to the Seimei piece, not introducing new jumps unless he can put a difficult enough entry before it, etc...), I wonder how much of this has to do adjusting to the new 4mn time limit. Being too much of a perfectionist is often a detriment to creativity; it could be he is trying to cut corners a bit in order to have time to fiddle around with the new programs to his heart's content.
 
hmmmm, the more I think about this the less exciting it gets. I think it's great that Yuzu wants to pay tribute to his idols but coming off a season with programs that were repeated two and three times...I was hoping to see some truly original fresh programs. I'm sure he'll put his own spin on it but since he's announced that they are tribute programs its going to be very difficult not to compare.
 
Yuzu is so poetic. He says he is free from expectations from the public to skate to win. And what's so pure about him is that he is skating for his younger self just for the sake of skating. There's nothing more pure in life than doing what you love and not caring about what the world demands or expects of you. I'm so happy Yuzu is free from public expectations. Hope we don't ses him retire soon. Just hoping he will leave us with breathtaking programs that will last centuries. He is going to become the Shakespeare of Figure Skating. A pure artist. [emoji7]

I love that “Shakespeare of figure skating”! You know he truly loves his sport when after everything he has accomplished he still skates with a kind of childlike wonder. He hasn’t become exhausted with skating, although he feels the pressure is off his shoulders he still wants to go out there and compete. I’m excited to see what his programs will look like!

Poetry on ice.
 
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