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Seriously.... WHYYYYY??!
Ban on Carolina Kostner Over
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Seriously.... WHYYYYY??!
Doping is effictive in every sport, you just have to use the right substances as far as I've heard. There is at least one acknowledged East German doping victim that I know of in figure skating: Marie-Katrin Kanitz, pair skater, bronze at Europeans in 1987. We're talking about psychotropic drugs, growth-inhibiting drugs and probably steroids (not so much, you wouldn't want the female pair skater to be bulky ...). And the mother of Mandy Woetzel assumes that her daughter has received growth-inhibiting drugs.
I think that the fact that Carolina visited Dr. Ferrari doesn't reflect well on her. Not well at all. Why would she do that?
According to various articles, she didn't visit him. Her boyfriend did, while she waited for him to return. Who knows if she knew it was Dr. Ferrari at that moment? He could have told her it was anyone. Why would she suspect somthing? He might have told her later who it was. We will probably never know but I am giving her the benefit of doubt here.
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Was this revelation delayed so Kostner could continue to compete? If it had been taken care of in a timely manner, she might not have been able to compete at the Olympics . Koster , like all us, made some poor choices and as often is the case must pay the consequences. Surely she must have known lying to the police is not something to be taken lightly. I'm not against taking away any medals won after the deception the date of the deception.
The place they visited him somewhat reflected something shady was going on
But how do you know? You were not there, none of us were.
We don't know anything about what happened and what he made her believe/what he told her. All we know is that she was there while he had a meeting with him and waited for him to return from that meeting. For what we know, she was never in direct contact with that doctor.
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That's good to know.
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I've said it in my post. CONI did the mistake (purposely?) and now they're giving a huge ban to have their clear conscience
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This does seem a likely senario. As I posted earlier, when there are no good reasons, bad reasons will be suspected.
However, there are two points I understand differently from your postulations.
Firstly, Schwazer was unhappy and unmotivated about his sport to the point of depression. So it seems it may be futile to pressure him into continuing his athletic career. In fact, I have some sympathy for him, especially when compared to the long time exploitation of doping for wealth and glory and the bullying tactics to suppress exposure by Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones.
Secondly, didn't Carolina lie to the WADA agent, not the police?
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Yes Schwazer soon lose motivation in his career (for many reasons I won't explain here) but you have to consider that the FIDAL (Italian Athletics Association) has only a handful of good athletes, people who can compete at world level (I would say 2, max 3). Lose even just one medal possibility means to lose credibility when the Government has to share the funds. It's all a matter of money, as usual. That's why they went on forcing Alex to be always on top.
Carolina lied to WADA agents then in the Court (I said Police but honestly I was meaning a functionary, I don't know which term is better). I don't know why her lawyer suggested so, given also the fact that her relationship was already ended and she had not to protect him but only protect her credibility. But this fact, that was immediately known to who was responsible for the case, was revealed only a pair of months ago when journalists had access to documents and publicized the discrepancies in Carolina's questionings.
I don't believe Carolina is so stupid to not understand what was happening in Alex' life but I'm pretty sure most of the things were kept hidden to her too. Schwazer soon revealed everything because he said he was tired of lying to her.
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Many times, if someone can provide incriminating evidence against someone else, either a fellow doper or the supplier, they can get a deal to reduce their ban. Whereas Carolina appears to be just the girlfriend who stupidly lied to protect her boyfriend, might not have anything of value to offer for a reduced ban.
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My better half offered "cramping" as a guess.
The only idea i had was the he wanted to drink the water to get hydrated, but not have excess weight or too much of a sloshing gut. So maybe the idea is to drink water, and purge in a cycle to somehow get hydration but get rid of stomach acid but not have too much weight or gut sloshing. . . at this point I really do want to know what was going on, and I question how much it had to do with that sport specifically.
His coach said even before the incident that his stomach seems to be unable to absorb the liquids he had taken earlier. However he finished 7th. I know figure skating is a tough sport but can you imagine something like that happening in a skating rink?
If his stomach cannot even absorb liquids normally, the he has a serious problem. He doesn't look healthy either.
Not in the rink, but according to jennifer kirk, bulimia or at least an eating disorder is very wide-spread among top skaters. So even if we don't get to see it, it doesn't mean it's not there.
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Y'all kill me. Come on man - USFS lobbying? I mean...really.
get outta here w/that
If anything, they should be lobbying to get Caro that gold medal!!!
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Actually, the possibility was raised upthread. The post may have been meant to be sarcastic but I didn't read it that way. Then again, I can be pathetically gullible at times. If that's what happened, I'll be more than happy to wear some egg on my face! It wouldn't be the first time...
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I no longer have any respect for ant-doping officials and haven't had any for a long time.
Sydney 2000 gymnastics destroyed any credibility they have. I haven't respected them since (or watched any gymnastics in any media).
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Is they are married and live in US, don´t think is the same law in every country in the world.
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