We don't know yet. Technically she has qualified for a spot at the OWG. But Sweden's policies are very strict, and she might be dropped because of them.I am confused.... So we WON'T/CAN'T see the Lady Joker at the Oly Games?
2021 Nebelhorn Trophy: Women's Free Skate
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I see that Olga Kozhemtakina is up to her old tricks again by calling both of Alysa's flips. I guess this is good; Russia is really concerned about Liu's potential.
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@ISU_Figure @olympicchannel @playthegame_org Here are the questionable Judges: J8 Olga KOZHEMYAKINA and J9 Nobuhiko YOSHIOKA. https://t.co/JB6lDNC4BB https://twitter.com/FSU_Figure/status/1190837638296723456?s=20
FSU Fair Skating (@FSU_Figure) Tweeted:
@ISU_Figure @olympicchannel @playthegame_org Here are the questionable Judges: J8 Olga KOZHEMYAKINA and J9 Nobuhiko YOSHIOKA. https://t.co/JB6lDNC4BB https://twitter.com/FSU_Figure/status/1190837638296723456?s=20
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I would call it too, as i called her Flip in SP
I really think that sometimes her flip edge should be better. And not just hers. Trusova's too.
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This is a bit strange. Although, I will say this is the first time I have seen her skate where the URs weren't too noticeable in real time. I do find it a bit hard to believe she was the only skater with fully rotated jumps. But, I guess miracles happen. She is adorable. Glad she got the silver medal.So no UR or even q for Kurakova?
No, you originally called her Lutz, not her flip, before sp protocols came outI would call it too, as i called her Flip in SP
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Trusova's is truly outside sometimes. Alysa's is at worst flat. However, what I find strange is how many flip edges judges like to call compared to flutzes. More women flutz than lip but I notice technical callers ignore flutzes and call lips. It is interesting to me. It seems inconsistent.I would call it too, as i called her Flip in SP
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Am i? I can't remember. I think her Lz edge was fine today. About the calling, it has to be at least two judges agreeing on a call.
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It sometimes really depends on a judge's 'taste'. Do you remember that one time when they called Kaori's flip and not her lutz?
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Also, I love Kurakova, but it's hysterical that her Lutz wasn't called on her three jump combo, but Alysa's flips were.
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okay. thanks. ;;; What was her mission/order by her Fed to be completed, I'd wonder, to win this competition over Alysa, a podium finish or something? I clearly remember the Swedish Fed did the same to Sasha Majorov four years ago. So so so sad.
Maybe Borowicz agreed to go along with Olga on Alysa, if Olga agreed to call Kurakova's lutz on three jump combo clean. Both calls seemed pretty egregious to me.
Congrats to Alysa for another challenger win. She has maxed out the points she can earn from the Challenger circuit and earned them without having to face a Russian. Her scores here is more of what I expect for her to receive in The international Senior GP Circuit. She really needs the 3A , if she wants to contend in her Senior GP events. But, she really is a joy to watch. Congrats to the EX Russians who also qualified for the Olympics. I thought Katya skated the best free skate here. With a stronger SP skate and the same skate she skated here, she could top 200 score this year. Also, kudos to Josefine. She is the best performer and if I was a judge, she would get the highest PCS scores from me.
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Get a score that would place in the top 8 at Worlds 2021. (Which is crazy)
But they were noticeable. I would understand if tech panel wouldn't be that strict with everybody, but they were. So I'm very surprised.
She skated good and deserved a spot, but this "help" was too obvious.
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But they called Kurakova's flip too. As Shabotova's and both Zinga's flips etc etc Maybe this panel is just more strict about flip edge than some other panels. As Amano is more strict about rotation than the others.
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That is especially sad.
I am also sad about Turkey not getting one spot for sure in men's, when it has two really good men.
She did a Satoko Miyahara (skater known for chronic URs issue but has competitions were almost everyone but her got dinged hard).So no UR or even q for Kurakova?
Miracles happen.
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Well, according to you and @flanker, she already did have to face 3 Russians.
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So, we will see 6 russian women at the olympics actually
And ... with Alysa's hard work and the incredible progress she's made over the past 8 to 9 months, I trust she'll have that 3A soon. After all the grief people have given Alysa, complaining she needed to change her jumping technique, she actually did it, and has shown in 2 ISU Challenger Series events that she can make that technique stick in competition.
Here's an article from earlier in September discussing how she and her coaches accomplished that.
A “new” Alysa Liu in a good place for a transformative season
Liu, now 16, is in the best headspace of her career and displaying a more mature style of skating just in time for the Olympic season.
olympics.nbcsports.com
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