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Am I missing something here? When did B/S become elevated to the V/M and D/W category? Is this all because they won a bronze medal last year?
they're clearly not
68+ in SD is still very poor even lower than I/K
Am I missing something here? When did B/S become elevated to the V/M and D/W category? Is this all because they won a bronze medal last year?
Nobody is saying that B/S can't beat W/P under any circumstances. What people are saying is that W/P should beat B/S at the moment, and at the moment (and in my view-- this year) W/P dance is better then B/S.
I/K may became superior in a year or so but now they are not. There was too much of a hype surounding them and everybody in Russia expected I/K to become next D/W, but they are not.I can argue I/K , C/L and P/B are superior to W/P
especially C/L and I/K
I've lived in the Middle East and would say that large majority of Israelis are pro Russia! There are also many Russian Jews living in Israel.
But there is A LOT OF politics, particularly now .I'm an Israeli so...
There isn't too much love between Israel and Russia, .
In Japan everybody had crowd reaction. Even during G/P dance the crowd in Japan was on their feet. And W/P levels, TES and so on are quite high. I/K messed on the levels and on the rythm (short dance).
They are very talented but they are not better then W/P. W/P might be less talented but they do go up and work like a hell.
Yeah because nothing makes the heart grow fonder than erasing your country off the map, violent repression of your culture and mass murder.Some Poles are on Russian side.
But there is A LOT OF politics, particularly now .
Yeah because nothing makes the heart grow fonder than erasing your country off the map, violent repression of your culture and mass murder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland–Russia_relations
http://news.yahoo.com/russia-demands-apology-over-warsaw-riots-outside-embassy-111250439.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Poland
At no other event did so many teams receive L1s on the Finnstep, or so many L1s cumulatively.
Outrageous technical scoring. It should be investigated at a high level.
The Russian minority in Poland is about 13,000 according to the 2011 census. It's not likely they're figure skating officials.Doesn't matter. Most Ukrainians hate Russia, and yet there is still love in judging.
Some Israelis might be on Russian side (many Israelis were Russian citizens and communists)
Some Poles are on Russian side.
So you never know.
I'm Israeli, and in the interest of clarifying a few matters:I'm an Israeli so...
There isn't too much love between Israel and Russia, but there are a lot of Jewish Russian immigrates living in Israel.
Figure skating isn't popular at all in Israel.
However, Israel has a skating federation headed by Boris Chait (Galit Chait's father).
Katalin Alpern has been a judge for Israel for 10 years or so (might be slightly more).
She previously judged for Hungary IIRC.
The Russian minority in Poland is about 13,000 according to the 2011 census. It's not likely they're figure skating officials.
In Ukraine, it's about 30% and there are probably a lot of them in the Ukrainian skating community.
What I meant to say is that the number of immigrants etc. is not important.
What important is the relationship between the countries.
I can see both Poland and Russia as part of an "eastern bloc" during the time of USSR and a few years later.
I don't think, however, that the geographical blocs matter today.
It's more of "Quid pro quo" thing.
You know, some work hard and some less hard. But of course all pairs work, otherwise they would not be where they are now.right and the others dont :sarcasm:
As others pointed out earlier... If you weren't a Russian Ice Dance team, you got a 1 in Finnstep. Will this be investigated? Who knows. What happens going forward will be interesting to see. Some are saying that the marks will be "made up" tomorrow to even things out. Personally, I don't think so. They're already in too deep with "throwing" the SD, to overcompensate in the FD would look even worse.
The noble idea of just scoring what is actually being performed is apparently a thing of the past.