It's not just that Wagner performed a similar long program at Canada too. She definetly needs polish, but she's consistent, and well we need that right now. You know that everyone is going to hype Zhang's performance on the GP, but Zhang's had easier assignments...
Ladies Free Skate - Asada vs. Meissner - Round 2
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It's not just that Wagner performed a similar long program at Canada too. She definetly needs polish, but she's consistent, and well we need that right now. You know that everyone is going to hype Zhang's performance on the GP, but Zhang's had easier assignments...
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Kimmie is starting to develop a habit of popping that 2nd Lutz attempt into a single. I applaud her for being able to do a true Lutz, but she's got to find the consistency again in that jump for the GPF, Nationals, and Worlds. She also got charged with doing a lip instead of a flip. I don't believe I've ever seen her under-rotate the 3Salchow, so again something she needs to work on. It'll be interesting to see if her presentation improvements I noticed in her SP carried over into her LP here. She's got work to do on her jumps, for sure! I've never seen Kimmie fall on a 3loop - that was a shocker!
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Yes the U.S women need to send someone reliable to Worlds, because while Meissner will most likely place quite high (how high is debateable of course) they need a 2nd women to place somewhere in the top 10 (likely) to mantain 3 spots. Hughes is becoming increasingly unreliable, and Czisny and Liang were never reliable in the least.
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Zhang did have to deal with a crazy tech specialist, an injury, and what appears to be an ice problem at COC, so I don't know if I would say it was 'easier'
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There are more to skating than skating cleanly! because if thats the case Mira would have won!
Meissner had two jumps downgraded and I'd like to see if they were minor under-rotation problems before handing the virtual silver over to Wagner. Slight under-rotations are much better than singling jumps in my estimation. Meissner singled her 3T or 2T in the SP and she singled her 3Lz and didn't even attempt her 2nd 3T in this FS. And I thought she had a mental edge over Asada ...
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Yeah. Wagner to Worlds, please!!! Kimmie wont have her LP ready until nationals, after all, it's still new & needs time to adjust. Paris is Kimmie's self-destruction button, for 3 years in a row she has fallen on that ice!!! But now the curse is not on her 3lutz anymore, now it's the 3loop,LOL!!! Cheers Kimmie, you will eventually tame that ice xDDD.
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Mira isn't exactly a clean skater. She has a really bad habit of under-rotating her jumps and landing them very sloppy.
Exactly...It was a lovely program and it totally deserved first.
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Well, of course there is more to skating. And I do not think that we are talking about one shaky landing or one two-footed jump - but two clean triples in one program?!?
I think it is part of the beauty that someone does not struggle every 30 seconds, I do not like seeing a shaky landing at every jump, it also hurts the expression and the general performance IMO. For example Takahashi touched down at the 4Toe at worlds - but nobody really cared because the rest of the program was exceptionally beautiful and clean!
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What is the PCS?
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What is the PCS?
Well, if you look at who Caroline has outperformed in her GP assignments compared to Wagner ...
current ISU rankings of skaters Caroline has outperformed:
7 Julia Sebestyen
9 Carolina Kostner
11 Emily Hughes
13 Susanna Poykio
15 Fumie Suguri
17 Alissa Czisny
18 Beatrisa Liang
19 Elene Gedevanishvili
current ISU rankings of skaters Wagner has outperformed:
6 Sarah Meier
16 Aki Sawada
20 Nana Takeda
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PCS are the Politics Corruption Scandal scores. Oops! I meant the Program Component Scores, silly me. *waits for the sekret computer to reboot*
Sixth is still better than 7th, and I'm talking about the quality of skating at Skate Canada and Trophy Bombard versus Skate America and Cup of China.
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Still, though, you have to consider the circumstances surrounding each competition. At Skate America, there was a strict technician, and Cup of China had possible ice problems. In correlation with this, at both events, Caroline was injured. That's why I think you might have a problem labeling Caroline's events easier. Besides, both Caroline and Wagner got dinged on PCS (imo).
Just my opinion
The only surprise here (imo!!) is Wagner. I have never heard of her before (only heard her name in passing threads) nor seen her, so I did not expect her to just pop up onto the podium like a jack-in-the-box. Anyway, seems like both top guns didn't have their best night, but Meissner in particular seems to have struggled. Red flag? Or just an off-night (which happens even to the best of the best)? Stay tuned. Next up: the GPF.
Injury.. (I"ll give you) But it's my opinion that Ashley would handle a stricter competition better than Caroline because while Caroline is definetly better presentation wise, Ashley's jumps are just much more sound than Zhangs.
not ready to jump on the bandwagon, but good to know that there's someone waiting in the wings to possibly take Alyssa/BeBe's place as the runner-up behind the Meissner/Hughes team. Now she just needs to deliver at Nats and try to get on that world team.
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