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They're very entertaining and of course, Johnny's outfits makes good cable TV!
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They're better than Scott and Co. but not as good as the BBC or Eurosport though. Johnny in particular can get negative. And he has his biases and makes it very obvious. I don't like to hear negativity and bias from commentators.
I like the generally positive and unbiased commentating from the British more. Even when someone does badly they find something nice to point out while politely talking about their short comings. And you'd never know if they have a bias (which I'm sure they do) because they don't let it be known. American and Canadian commentators unfortunately do this.
I have enjoyed the entertainment though that Johnny's outfits have brought to the table. Poor Tara has tried to match his fierceness but can't.
I like the generally positive and unbiased commentating from the British more. Even when someone does badly they find something nice to point out while politely talking about their short comings. And you'd never know if they have a bias (which I'm sure they do) because they don't let it be known. American and Canadian commentators unfortunately do this.
I have enjoyed the entertainment though that Johnny's outfits have brought to the table. Poor Tara has tried to match his fierceness but can't.
I like them overall, but they seem to be remiss in pointing out errors and/or deviations from planned elements. Also, I hate the way Johnny purses his lips while staring into the camera....this is not supposed to be a hybrid of America's Next Top Model and Rupaul's Drag Race. BTW, this criticism is coming from an out and proud gay man.
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That's exactly what Tara should learn.
Even so, I am not sure I can stand her comment,
because, for me, she is the one who had stolen Kwan's OGM and run away.
I'm loving the Tara, Johnny, and Terry team and that I get to watch the entire competition. I find they explain the technical issues in jumps and the program layout very well--Johnny in particular. They are generally very respectful towards the skaters and try to find something positive even in a non-stellar performance--a skater has good lines, or how much they have developed in recent years, etc. I also find that their occasional disagreement on whether they prefer a skater's style or not is good in that it shows the average viewer, that it's ok to like one style or the other, and that there is room in the sport for different styles. Tara and Johnny obviously have great chemistry, and I've noticed that Terry is getting more jovial as well as the Olympics go on.
As some others here, I've had people contact me on FB, e-mail, and phone just to tell me--a well known skating fanatic
--how much they are enjoying the commentary of this team and how much they have learned about the sport from them. Several people have told me they DVR the NBCSN broadcast to watch that instead of just getting the prime time highlights.
I'm genuinely curious about what negative comments Johnny has made, as I think he's been very balanced in his commentary. Examples, anyone?
P.S. Johnny's witty analogies and sparkly wardrobe have indeed been excellent PR for NBC. They should give him a bonus for that
As some others here, I've had people contact me on FB, e-mail, and phone just to tell me--a well known skating fanatic
--how much they are enjoying the commentary of this team and how much they have learned about the sport from them. Several people have told me they DVR the NBCSN broadcast to watch that instead of just getting the prime time highlights. I'm genuinely curious about what negative comments Johnny has made, as I think he's been very balanced in his commentary. Examples, anyone?
P.S. Johnny's witty analogies and sparkly wardrobe have indeed been excellent PR for NBC. They should give him a bonus for that
NBC Live Extra has two different streams (no idea why!). I generally wait until a few minutes before the broadcast starts for NBC's NickMcCarvel (@NickMcCarvel) to tweet the link to the feed of the actual NBCSN broadcast. I also read yesterday that if you're using the LiveExtra app, you have have to click the Gold Zone button first to get Tara, Johnny, and Terrys commentary. I hope this helps!
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Bingo! I read another poster say Scott must get paid by NBC because he can yell loud and
may I add he is just annoying, IMHO.
I do enjoy Weir's commentary and Tara - welljust say she is a pleasant surprise even tho I loathed her skating style.
Scott and Sandra are just awful. Their knowledge of CoP is minuscule and they are LOUD. The evening broadcast shows only a few selected skaters anyway, so it is a waste.
Johnny knows a lot more about CoP than Tara does, and he often corrects her when she strays out of her knowledge zone, which is fine. In the first few days, Tara was prone to say everything was "cool" and giggle a lot, which might seem appropriate from a 15-year-old Tara, but not the 30+ year-old version. She's toned that down since then.
Johnny knows a lot more about CoP than Tara does, and he often corrects her when she strays out of her knowledge zone, which is fine. In the first few days, Tara was prone to say everything was "cool" and giggle a lot, which might seem appropriate from a 15-year-old Tara, but not the 30+ year-old version. She's toned that down since then.
Well, as I said before, I like Johnny's commentating more than Tara's; and think three is a crowd...
I haven't heard Cousins and Barker, but wish I could. I love the Eurosport guys that I think are British, but I think I read they aren't 'working' the Olympics.
I haven't heard Cousins and Barker, but wish I could. I love the Eurosport guys that I think are British, but I think I read they aren't 'working' the Olympics.
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I agree with you 100%.
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They're better than Scott and Co. but not as good as the BBC or Eurosport though...I like the generally positive and unbiased commentating from the British more. Even when someone does badly they find something nice to point out while politely talking about their short comings. And you'd never know if they have a bias (which I'm sure they do) because they don't let it be known. American and Canadian commentators unfortunately do this.
I have enjoyed the entertainment though that Johnny's outfits have brought to the table. Poor Tara has tried to match his fierceness but can't.
Pretty much this. They are a lot better than anything else America currently offers, but they have their flaws and could be better. I DO like that they both have an understanding of COP. Some people have said she doesn't know as much since she's not involved in skating now and never competed under it but I wonder if those people have actually watched her. I think she holds her own in the CoP talk. I also do think that, while their biases are obvious, they come up with factoids and something nice to say about literally every skater, and that is great.
However, both can be quite negative at times (noticed this more during team events than the individuals so maybe something was said to them about it as they have toned it down).
Yes, this is actually my biggest problem with them. I wish they'd be like 'that was supposed to be a triple toe'. Even Scott does this so it's not like it's hard.
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I really appreciate Johnny's articulateness & knowledge. Tara can spend a lttle too much time talking about her short but successful career. I do prefer them to Bezic & Hamilton. (I like Tanith Belbin & Ryan Bradley as commentators too.)
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The commentators are Chris Howarth, who is British, and Belinda Noonan, who is Australian. I like them too.
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Where do you access the bbc live stream? Is it available to Americans?
I think Johnny is understands the IJS and explains the elements because he did compete under those rules. Tara seems to have the same candid phrases and interjects them when she feels it applies. Her constant referral to her won experiences is annoying as are Terry and Johnny's referrals to her career (however short it was). They both missed mistakes such as the lift by Virtue and Moir. Chris Howarth and Belinda Noonan explain each element. For example, I never knew how many turns were required on the pairs elements and how the back had to be arched and it was better to be lower to the ice. I also never knew on the split twist there was different grades of execution for where the man places his hands on the lady's hip. I have heard Paul Wylie and because he is a technical specialist he does offer information about the elements and why they are either good or bad.
This was a good read appraising T&J's performance , although I think the author got it wrong saying both were recently retired (that only applies to JW). I will say that T&J really have no business commentating during ice dance, however, and they needed to bring in Tanith or someone who's actually been an ice dancer to explain the intricacies of the dance.
Overall, I prefer them to S&S. Scott's commentary isn't bad itself I just hate the way he groans during the jumps. It's Sandra I can't stand, she rarely adds anything of value to the conversation.
Overall, I prefer them to S&S. Scott's commentary isn't bad itself I just hate the way he groans during the jumps. It's Sandra I can't stand, she rarely adds anything of value to the conversation.
I'm in the middle about Tara and Johnny. I do like some of the random/snarky comments we get from the two. Theyre great with the singles competitions. But during the pairs and dance portion of the team event, it was just too many comments on nonessentials (how shiny are those rhinestones!). it felt as if they were covering up how little that they know about the technical aspects of pairs and ice dance. The only thing that i like about Scott and Sandra is their positivity, they sell these skater's programs to the audience a bit more. I noticed this in the men's short.
Overall, Tara and Johnny are doing a fine job, and the outfits are giving me life. But give me Tanith for ice dance. I'll even take Peter Carruthers for dance (very grudgingly tho)
Overall, Tara and Johnny are doing a fine job, and the outfits are giving me life. But give me Tanith for ice dance. I'll even take Peter Carruthers for dance (very grudgingly tho)
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They are so fashionable, knowledgeable, and witty. Example: Johnny explained how difficult it is to change jump technique after a certain age. Gannon: "So it's like a golf swing?" Tara: "We wouldn't know." Gannon: What makes a good costume? Johnny: "If I like it."
