What about "noodle arms" though? I've seen that comment often, not only about Yuzuru but also about Anna Pogoriaya, who is my favorite girl. Whatever it means, I must be a fan of "noodle arms" but it didn't sound like a complement...
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season
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What about "noodle arms" though? I've seen that comment often, not only about Yuzuru but also about Anna Pogoriaya, who is my favorite girl. Whatever it means, I must be a fan of "noodle arms" but it didn't sound like a complement...
And Boyang got the same complaint as well. I think it means sloppy & meaningless (and (excessive) arm movements.
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Just excessive arm swings, no real control over its movements, not elegant, not smooth.... :think: Things like that.
Well I've seen many people here and there complain about him looking like a wet noodle but with no real example. However in TSL, when they discussed NHK, they said the way his arms were dangling when he got up from that 4T in the FS gave that impression (aside from poor posture, but it could have been health-related at that time).
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That description was applicable to him in the past, but not so much now. I haven't really seen anyone use that term to describe him in a while. Of course he has his moments where he lets go but thats because he worked on correcting/being mindful of it as opposed to it being natural to him (unlike others, such as Mao).
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Sorry if I'm being off topic but here is the small interview Yuzu gave to the French television during the gala. Nelson still has a tendency to cut people mid-sentence to translate into French but I think Yuzu cope with it very well ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXDAd6P5OC4
I don't think French commentators knew a lot about Yuzu's poor condition before coming to Worlds as they didn't mention it in their comment of the free skate. They're talking about him feeling pressured or nervous mainly, as Nelson does in the interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXDAd6P5OC4
I don't think French commentators knew a lot about Yuzu's poor condition before coming to Worlds as they didn't mention it in their comment of the free skate. They're talking about him feeling pressured or nervous mainly, as Nelson does in the interview.
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I think the wet noodle thing has something to do with him not being able to control his limbs, or just being like a little calf, you know, arms and legs go all over the place when he falls 
And him winging the choreography and doing meaningless arm movements specially at his FPs like this or this VS this, see that his arms are kind of flailing around. It has gotten a LOT better, but he still does it when he's too focused on technical or tired.
About the posture, it's so much better now, but it's not something that comes natural to him. He needs to constantly be paying attention to not slouch.
I love this montage
And him winging the choreography and doing meaningless arm movements specially at his FPs like this or this VS this, see that his arms are kind of flailing around. It has gotten a LOT better, but he still does it when he's too focused on technical or tired. About the posture, it's so much better now, but it's not something that comes natural to him. He needs to constantly be paying attention to not slouch.
I love this montage
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I have no idea if this has been posted before because I can't really keep up at the moment, but I'm LMAO because of this picture right now 
somebody doesn't look too thrilled here
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Special flying Pooh , I hope he keep this one 
Someone videod the 2nd K&C. How did that stuff toy landed in there at 0:45min? I wonder whether it was for HanYan. And Yuzu tried to throw it back and landed behind the TV
Someone videod the 2nd K&C. How did that stuff toy landed in there at 0:45min? I wonder whether it was for HanYan. And Yuzu tried to throw it back and landed behind the TV
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I have no idea if this has been posted before because I can't really keep up at the moment, but I'm LMAO because of this picture right now
Uhm, apparently I was wrong thinking it didn't take much "persuasion" from Kaitlyn for him to show off his quad. Still this is much less than what he and Javi did to poor Nam.
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at 8:25 you can see him trying to tell her no. But how could he say no to such a beautiful women? 
I posted this in the Javi thread, but I'll post it here too because he is asked about Yuzuru :http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/2015/03/31/actualidad/1427811472_655099.html
My Spanish is modest at best, but what I got from it is that he is asked if he gets along well with Yuzuru and he says that he does, as they spend a lot of hours on ice together, but that sometimes the conversations are short because Yuzu's English is not great.
The other question is whether Yuzu had performed at a lower level than his usual and Javi says yes, but that it wasn't a disaster and says that it has been a difficult year for Yuzu with his collision, surgery and injury.
My Spanish is modest at best, but what I got from it is that he is asked if he gets along well with Yuzuru and he says that he does, as they spend a lot of hours on ice together, but that sometimes the conversations are short because Yuzu's English is not great.
The other question is whether Yuzu had performed at a lower level than his usual and Javi says yes, but that it wasn't a disaster and says that it has been a difficult year for Yuzu with his collision, surgery and injury.
Are those movements considered meaningless arm movements and flailing around? I didn't think those are natural movements of anyone. I've always thought those are part of the choreography. I've always thought the choreographer needs to choreograph every move in the program and make each move meaningful. Skaters don't make up the move they like. If the movement is meaningless, then it's a problem of the choreography. Is it different in skating choreography?
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I think the wet noodle thing has something to do with him not being able to control his limbs, or just being like a little calf, you know, arms and legs go all over the place when he falls
I kinda like it :blush: I like Patrick's better but I like Yuzu's as well, it's like "I'll go where the movement takes me" and it appeals to me as well. :think:
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I think this is completely right. This is why Yuzu's R&J 1.0 was so so so clever and such a good fit for him. The arm movements were such clear, defined movements that it stopped him from getting too out of control.
I've always thought it's the choreographer's job, not the skater's the job to make every move meaningful unless the skater is the choreographer. Because if you don't choreograph each move before the competition, then most likely, you will end up doing random moves on the spot during the competition. I think the Russian couple really helped refine R&J 1.0
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I would love to see this smile in my bookstore magazine aisle...how I envy you, Japan
I think the wet noodle comes out to play especially when he is tired. I think Notre Dame is full of them also because he doesn't seem to really get the connection between the choreography and the music and so his arm is just kind of flailing and dangling. However I do not see it once at all this season. Not even when he is injured. Lots of respect them.
I think the wet noodle comes out to play especially when he is tired. I think Notre Dame is full of them also because he doesn't seem to really get the connection between the choreography and the music and so his arm is just kind of flailing and dangling. However I do not see it once at all this season. Not even when he is injured. Lots of respect them.
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Brian Orser did say that before he took Yuzuru on, he never saw the same choreography from Yuzuru twice. [See Yuzuru's R&J1 performances in 2011 GPF and 2012 Worlds.] Brian attributes it to Yuzuru being an "emotional skater." (http://www.skatecanada.ca/2014/03/canadian-coach-brian-orser-creating-champions-toronto/)
Even now under Brian, we can still see how Yuzuru adds his personal touches to his programs as a result of being in the moment. I rather like it because it makes every performance from him seem like new. It is also a testament to his emotional commitment to his programs, making them "speak" to the audience. Simply stated, his skating touches the heart. It's a rare gift. Others may be more polished or have better posture but do not have the same emotional impact.
Re the "flailing arms," Eteri Tutberidze once commented that while Yuzuru's arms look somehow carelessly thrown, it looks so natural when he does it. (http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...-a-good-bet-at-the-team-event-in-sochi.89116/)
For sure, the foregoing does not mean that Yuzuru does no longer need to improve, only that his "flaws" are not as big a liability as some would like them to appear.
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It's indeed true. I also really like the personal touches Yuzuru adds to each program he skates! Each performance he skates has its highlights and it's different every time, of course the 'general' choreography is the same but the special touches he adds 'in the moment' are most impactful. :agree: :yes:
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latest example, his finishing pose at worlds in the SP :agree:
