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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season

Could someone be kind enough to explain to me the new rule changes for penalties on falls and jumps in the ISU rules.
 
Could someone be kind enough to explain to me the new rule changes for penalties on falls and jumps in the ISU rules.

http://static.isu.org/media/207718/1944-sptc-sov-communication-2015-2016.pdf

It's pretty clear here and there is actually a thread on the edge. But basically, a fall on a quad (exclusively) means automatic -3 across the board, which will result in a -4 points from the BV. Aside from the -1 point deduction for falling. 4T and 4S UR have a higher BV now, as well as the fully rotated 3T and 3S. The UR 3A now has a slightly (insignificant) reduction in BV, too.
 
From Edmonton and going to SC! Super excited for my 1st live FS event. You should definitely go, the cast this year is kinda amazing! I typically don't get too excited over skaters other than Yuzu, but Pchiddy+Nam+Joshua+Kanako+Liza+Ashley+Duhamel&Radford+Weaver&Poje+Shibutanis definitely should be quite attractive combined!!

Hurry though, coz I was only able to get an upper bowl ticket :( will hopefully get a better ticket if ppl sell them later on...

Feel free to contact me if you do decide to go and will need a lunch or dinner buddy :)

Okok...I might just buy the tickets haha.
 
http://static.isu.org/media/207718/1944-sptc-sov-communication-2015-2016.pdf

It's pretty clear here and there is actually a thread on the edge. But basically, a fall on a quad (exclusively) means automatic -3 across the board, which will result in a -4 points from the BV. Aside from the -1 point deduction for falling. 4T and 4S UR have a higher BV now, as well as the fully rotated 3T and 3S. The UR 3A now has a slightly (insignificant) reduction in BV, too.

Does it? I thought the only case where final GOE must be -3 from all judges is combo of one jump in SP. For fall it's -3 reduction of GOE.
At least that table is called "REDUCTIONS FOR ERRORS", so theoretically speaking judges can still give -2 or even -1 for fall if that jump had many positive aspects (diff.entry, good height, was effortless etc).
 
Does it? I thought the only case where final GOE must be -3 from all judges is combo of one jump in SP. For fall it's -3 reduction of GOE.
At least that table is called "REDUCTIONS FOR ERRORS", so theoretically speaking judges can still give -2 or even -1 for fall if that jump had many positive aspects (diff.entry, good height, was effortless etc).

In theory yes. I'm not so sure though we'll see that in practice. A lot of judges are awful stingy with awarding +3 on about any jump that is landed. It wouldn't be so bad if they were a bit more stingy with going -3 for falls in my opinion. In fact....I wish that a fall would just be pure BV reduction and then the judges could award GOE freely. Positive or negative GOE. I'd love to see what judges consider a -3 fall versus a +2 fall. That would be so fun and the marks would be all over the place. Drama. Pure drama :popcorn:

Heaven forbid the sport becomes fun from a judging standpoint.
 
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In theory yes. I'm not so sure though we'll see that in practice. A lot of judges are awful stingy with awarding +3 on about any jump that is landed. It wouldn't be so bad if they were a bit more stingy with going -3 for falls in my opinion. In fact....I wish that a fall would just be pure BV reduction and then the judges could award GOE freely. Positive or negative GOE. I'd love to see what judges consider a -3 fall versus a +2 fall. That would be so fun and the marks would be all over the place. Drama. Pure drama :popcorn:

Heaven forbid the sport becomes fun from a judging standpoint.
you're evil :laugh: :points:
 
Spoiler because I am a S: a lot of bromance. :love: I am on the dark side :p

Ok, but I think you also have a light side to you (else you wouldn't be part of this fandom) so no more spoilers please for us who haven't yet watched the two movies and who are not all Ms. ;)
 
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Just my two cents, Yuzu is playing Seimei, who is a real person in the history. He just uses the music from the movie ant that's all. In order to know who Seimei is and how he is like, I guess reading some articles written by historians or watching documentations would be more relevant than watching a movie which is based on a novel. And there is no need to emphasize too much about the bromance. Historians rarely suggest any bromance between Seimei and his friend.
 
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I think the movies have an entertainment value and can serve as a good introduction as to who Seimei is so I'd still watch them. When we finally get to see Yuzuru's competitive LP, we can see how much, if any, he's taken from the movie besides the music.
 
Just my two cents, Yuzu is playing Seimei, who is a real person in the history. He just uses the music from the movie ant that's all. In order to know who Seimei is and how he is like, I guess reading some articles written by historians or watching documentations would be more relevant than watching a movie which is based on a novel. And there is no need to emphasize too much about the bromance. Historians rarely suggest any bromance between Seimei and his friend.

What if Yuzuru is perfectly content to base his interpretation of Seimei on the movie?

Or did he read the Phantom of the Opera and Notre Dame the Paris?

I mean, he's going to fight evil with magic, right? Did the historians suggest that? Well, I'm sure portraying a historically accurate astronomer/priest who advised the king would be just as interesting on ice as a demon fighter.

Oh, and lots of people here enjoy watching bromance so there's actually some need to emphasize that there is some in the movie they're getting recommended. It's actually an incentive to watch it, you know.
 
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What if Yuzuru is perfectly content to base his interpretation of Seimei on the movie?

Or did he read the Phantom of the Opera and Notre Dame the Paris?

I mean, he's going to fight evil with magic, right? Did the historians suggest that? Well, I'm sure portraying a historically accurate astronomer/priest who advised the king would be just as interesting on ice as a demon fighter.

Oh, and lots of people here enjoy watching bromance so there's actually some need to emphasize that there is some in the movie they're getting recommended. It's actually an incentive to watch it, you know.

I agree. Although Yuzu is the only one who really knows, I would venture to guess that his impression of Abe no Seimei is from the movie and perhaps anime, manga and video games.

I wonder whether he has watched the anime series, "Shonen Onmyoji" ("The Young Spirit Master")? The young protagonist in this anime series is supposed to be the grandson of Abe no Seimei:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWAgahmXPz8
 
The thing that I remember the most from Onmyoji movie is the bromance :biggrin: And Seimei is so Yuzuru somehow...

I feel you Meoima, for me one of the most remarkable things about this movie was bromance indeed :laugh: I also didn't expect mysterious and resilient Seimei to turn so sentimental and touching at the end of the first movie. It was refreshing and reminding us that he's still a human being who feels things deeply and shows strongest affection to others. Seimei himself was my absolutely favourite thing about this movie. I really wanted to see more of this character. He's just magnetizing.
I also see no problem with Yuzu potraying the character from movie. Wasn't he asked about whether the character from "Onmyoji" fits him? imo, role was taken from movie, but they did study traditional dance and Japanese cultural features based on many different sources.

I wonder whether he has watched the anime series, "Shonen Onmyoji" ("The Young Spirit Master")? The young protagonist in this anime series is supposed to be the grandson of Abe no Seimei:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWAgahmXPz8

You think he might identify himself with the grandson of Abe no Seimei? That's cute:laugh:
 
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