Yuzuru Hanyu: 2015-16 Season

[xibsuarz]

These are more complete lists of the top total, free skate and short program scores as of October 15, 2015.

For his first outing in the 2015 Autumn Classic International, Yuzuru did not do too badly.

His total score at the 2015 ACI was 277.19 which is the 11th highest total score of all time.

His free skate score at the 2015 ACI was 184.05 which is tied for 10th highest free skate score of all time with Tatsuki Machida's free skate score of 184.05 at the 2014 Saitama World Championships.

His short program score at the 2015 ACI was 93.14 which is the 19th highest short program score of all time.

Top 11 Total Scores Men – October 15, 2015

01 Patrick Chan (Canada) 295.27 (SP 98.52; FS 196.75) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 293.25 (SP 99.84; FS 193.41) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
03 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 289.46 (SP 97.61; FS 191.85) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
04 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 288.58 (SP 96.27; FS 192.31) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
05 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 288.16 (SP 94.08; FS 194.08) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
06 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 282.59 (SP 91.24; FS 191.35) 2014 WC (Saitama)
07 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 282.26 (SP 98.21; FS 184.05) 2014 WC (Saitama)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 280.98 (SP 93.02; FS 187.96) 2011 WC (Moscow)
09 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 280.09 (SP 101.45; FS 178.68) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
10 Patrick Chan (Canada) 280.08 (SP 87.47; FS 192.61) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
11 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 277.19 (SP 93.14; FS 184.05) 2015 SC Autumn Classic International (Barrie, Ontario)

Top 14 Free Skate Scores Men – October 15, 2015

01 Patrick Chan (Canada) 196.75 (SP 98.52; TP 295.27) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 194.08 (SP 94.08; TP 288.16) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
03 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 193.41 (SP 99.84; TP 293.25) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
04 Patrick Chan (Canada) 192.61 (SP 87.47; TP 280.08) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
05 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 192.31 (SP 96.27; TP 288.58) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
06 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 191.85 (SP 97.61; TP 289.46) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
07 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 191.35 (SP 91.24; TP 282.59) 2014 WC (Saitama)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 187.96 (SP 93.02; TP 280.98) 2011 WC (Moscow)
09 Shoma Uno (Japan) 185.48 (no short program) 2015 Japan Open (Saitama)
10 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 184.05 (SP 98.21; TP 282.26) 2014 WC (Saitama)
10 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 184.05 (SP 93.14; TP 277.19) 2015 SC Autumn Classic International (Barrie, Ontario)
11 Dennis Ten (Kazakhstan) 181.83 (SP 85.89; TP 267.72) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
12 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 181.16 (SP 92.74; TP 273.90) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
13 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 180.93 (SP 84.66; TP 265.59) 2013 Finlandia Trophy (Espoo)
14 Takahiko Kozuka (Japan) 180.79 (SP 77.62; TP 258.41) 2011 WC (Moscow)

Top 20 Short Program Scores Men – October 15, 2015

01 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 101.45 (FS 178.68; TP 280.09) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
02 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 99.84 (FS 193.41; TP 293.25) 2013 GPF (Fukuoka)
03 Patrick Chan (Canada) 98.52 (FS 196.75; TP 295.27) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
04 Patrick Chan (Canada) 98.37 (FS 169.41; TP 267.78) 2013 WC (London, Ontario)
05 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 98.21 (FS 184.05; TP 282.26) 2014 WC (Saitama)
06 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 97.98 (no free skate) 2014 Olympics Team Event (Sochi)
07 Denis Ten (Kazakhstan) 97.61 (FS 191.85; TP 289.46) 2015 4CC (Seoul)
08 Patrick Chan (Canada) 97.52 (FS 178.10; TP 275.62) 2014 Olympics (Sochi)
09 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 96.42 (FS 179.51; TP 275.93) 2014 WC (Saitama)
10 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 96.27 (FS 192.31; TP 288.58) 2015 WTT (Tokyo)
11 Daisuke Takahashi (Japan) 95.55 (FS 172.76; TP 268.31) 2013 NHK Trophy (Tokyo)
12 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.37 (FS 168.22; TP 263.59) 2013 Trophee Eric Bompard
13 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.32 (FS 165.71; TP 261.03) 2012 NHK Trophy (Sendai)
14 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.20 (FS 175.88; TP 271.08) 2015 WC (Shanghai)
15 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 95.07 (FS 148.67; TP 243.74) 2012 Skate America (Kent)
16 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 94.08 (FS 194.08; TP 288.16) 2014 GPF (Barcelona)
17 Javier Fernandez (Spain) 93.92 (FS 171.09; TP 265.01) 2014 COR (Moscow)
18 Tatsuki Machida (Japan) 93.39 (FS 175.70; TP 269.09) 2014 Skate America (Chicago)
19 Yuzuru Hanyu (Japan) 93.14 (FS 184.05; TP 277.19) 2015 SC Autumn Classic International (Barrie, Ontario)
20 Patrick Chan (Canada) 93.02 (FS 187.96; TP 280.98) 2011 WC (Moscow)

The list that Alia posted is the one aknowledged as 'official' in terms of which competitions are taken into account or not.
The lists normally just include ISU sanctioned competitions, the GPs, 4CC, Euros, Worlds, Olympics, and WTT. And Autumn Classic is not one of those, it's not even a part of the Challenger series anymore. Or if so, there would be many many competitions that should be included. But for matters of records and official lists, they are not included.
Unless you really have taken every single competition ever done into account, in which case a take my hat off to the impressive work

So Yuzu will be skating last at the SP in SC?

 

[FTnoona]

So Yuzu will be skating last at the SP in SC?

Yups. In the GP the short program rankings are done by world standings, so Hanyu should be skating last in the short for both his GPs. not good for my heart lol

 

[shiroKJ]

Yups. In the GP the short program rankings are done by world standings, so Hanyu should be skating last in the short for both his GPs. not good for my heart lol

Just reading this is giving me butterflies

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➣ Another lovely fanart of the new Chopin [cr.]

➣ Seems like some people are missing the Pooh Rain, so here's another angle of that infamous moment

➣ And in honor of him doing a 4Lo during AC's, here is his 4Lo3A in 3 different camera angles [1] [2] [3] (cr/cr.)

 

[Hanmgse]

Yups. In the GP the short program rankings are done by world standings, so Hanyu should be skating last in the short for both his GPs. not good for my heart lol

our poor hearts

 

[ethereal]

A partial translation of some of Nobunari Oda's commentary on Yuzuru's FS:

http://yuzusorbet.tumblr.com/post/131683414767/nobunari-oda-comments-on-yuzus-seimei-autumn

 

[alia jackson]

Thanks for the links and translation.

Anyone could translate or provide a gist of this fanart, it looks funny

 

[giulia95]

a wonderful 4L out of nowhere at 15:45

many thanks to the uploader!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3...ice-part-1-autumn-classic-international_sport

 

[shiroKJ]

a wonderful 4L out of nowhere at 15:45

many thanks to the uploader!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3...ice-part-1-autumn-classic-international_sport

Here's a gif of that 4Lo at Autumn Classics. He gets so much height and distance on that, probably more so than his 4T/4S. And his 4S is so consistent compared to his 4T now :hopelessness:

Sigh...Should just do 4Sx2 & 4Lo instead. I would worry less lol

[GIF cr.weibo]

 

[gsyzf]

The list that Alia posted is the one aknowledged as 'official' in terms of which competitions are taken into account or not.
The lists normally just include ISU sanctioned competitions, the GPs, 4CC, Euros, Worlds, Olympics, and WTT. And Autumn Classic is not one of those, it's not even a part of the Challenger series anymore. Or if so, there would be many many competitions that should be included. But for matters of records and official lists, they are not included.
Unless you really have taken every single competition ever done into account, in which case a take my hat off to the impressive work

So Yuzu will be skating last at the SP in SC?

Autumn Classic is a ISU sanctioned competition. It's not part of the challenger series, but it is still a regular senior B. Yuzuru got 250 points for winning that competition. There will be little incentives for athletes to participate in senior B's if they don't get any points at all.

http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsmen.htm

 

[ice coverage]

Autumn Classic is a ISU sanctioned competition. It's not part of the challenger series, but it is still a regular senior B. Yuzuru got 250 points for winning that competition. There will be little incentives for athletes to participate in senior B's if they don't get any points at all.

http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsmen.htm

But... the ISU does not count scores at non-Challenger internationals toward official ISU PBs and SBs.

Thus the inclusion of Autumn Classic scores in Geo1's list strikes me as unconventional, to say the least. YMMV.

 

[xibsuarz]

Autumn Classic is a ISU sanctioned competition. It's not part of the challenger series, but it is still a regular senior B. Yuzuru got 250 points for winning that competition. There will be little incentives for athletes to participate in senior B's if they don't get any points at all.

http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsmen.htm

Oh Ok, thanks, I just remembered someone once said it didn't count for season's/personal's best, but these small competitions always get me confused :hopelessness:

But... the ISU does not count scores at non-Challenger internationals toward official ISU PBs and SBs.

Thus the inclusion of Autumn Classic scores in Geo1's list strikes me as unconventional, to say the least. YMMV.

That was the impression I was under, as well

 

[shiroKJ]

If anyone is curious, the official list is here http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pa...ncluding-personal-bestseason-best-information

 

[xibsuarz]

If anyone is curious, the official list is here http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pa...ncluding-personal-bestseason-best-information

A bit off topic with the conversation but I've got the feeling that list (progression of highest scores) hasn't been accurately updated, there are several scores I can think on top of my head that should be there. For the SP: Tatsuki, Javier and Yuzuru's SP scores at Worlds 2014, Yuzuru and Javier's at Worlds 2015, Denis at 4 CC 2015, Patrick at the Olympics. None of Yuzuru's scores are even included in the FS list or total score list and he's got a few that would make the cut. And of course, half of the list if made by competitions in 2003, hard to believe they still stand. A men's FS score of 98 points is the 19 highest? Unless I'm missing the point of the list? The PB do seem to be right, though as well as another one further down solely about highest TS.

But yep, in the SB list for the 2015-2016 season, Autumn Classic is not listed, and that one HAS to be updated.

 

[ice coverage]

If anyone is curious, the official list is here http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pa...ncluding-personal-bestseason-best-information

Yes, exactly :agree:.
Hanyu's 2015 Autumn Classic scores therefore are not included in any of the official ISU Season Bests lists.

http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/sb2015-16/sbtsmto.htm
http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/sb2015-16/sbtsmfs.htm
http://www.isuresults.com/isujsstat/sb2015-16/sbtsmsp.htm​

Meanwhile, for gsyzf: ISU bios do list non-Challenger internationals, and thus Hanyu's ISU bio includes a notation that he placed first at the 2015 Autumn Classic.

http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010967.htm​

 

[shiroKJ]

A bit off topic with the conversation but I've got the feeling that list (progression of highest scores) hasn't been accurately updated, there are several scores I can think on top of my head that should be there. For the SP: Tatsuki, Javier and Yuzuru's SP scores at Worlds 2014, Yuzuru and Javier's at Worlds 2015, Denis at 4 CC 2015, Patrick at the Olympics. None of Yuzuru's scores are even included in the FS list or total score list and he's got a few that would make the cut. And of course, half of the list if made by competitions in 2003, hard to believe they still stand. A men's FS score of 98 points is the 19 highest? Unless I'm missing the point of the list? The PB do seem to be right, though as well as another one further down solely about highest TS.

But yep, in the SB list for the 2015-2016 season, Autumn Classic is not listed, and that one HAS to be updated.

There are several different lists.
Personal Best Total
Personal Best SP
Personal Best FS

Total Highest Score (Under COP)

 

[Lindacrow]

Evolution of jumps to worry about

2010-11: 4T and 3A
2011-12: 4T and 3S
2012-13: 4S
2013-14: 4S and 3F
2014-15: 4T and 3Lz
2015-2016: ???

 

[gsyzf]

Meanwhile, for gsyzf: ISU bios do list non-Challenger internationals, and thus Hanyu's ISU bio includes a notation that he placed first at the 2015 Autumn Classic.

http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00010967.htm​

Thanks. The scores from Autumn Classic are not included in the SB or PB list. But those scores are still valid international competition scores and can be compared to scores from other ISU sanctioned competitions. They are not inflated scores from domestic competitions.

ETA: I believe geo1's list is the official isu ranking. He just inserted Yuzuru's autumn classic scores into the list. It's very likely he didn't check all isu sanctioned senior b competitions, but I don't think it will make any difference because I don't think there is any other male skater that scored higher than yuzuru's autumn classic scores at isu sanctioned non-challenger series senior b competitions.

 

[xibsuarz]

There are several different lists.
Personal Best Total
Personal Best SP
Personal Best FS

Total Highest Score (Under COP)

Yeah, that's why I said the PB lists and the TS score list further down do seem right :agree: thank you for posting the link BTW

Evolution of jumps to worry about

2010-11: 4T and 3A
2011-12: 4T and 3S
2012-13: 4S
2013-14: 4S and 3F
2014-15: 4T and 3Lz
2015-2016: ???

Goodness me, please don't say it. I don't want to start worrying about him when the big competitions haven't even begun :hopelessness:

 

[shiroKJ]

Evolution of jumps to worry about

2010-11: 4T and 3A
2011-12: 4T and 3S
2012-13: 4S
2013-14: 4S and 3F
2014-15: 4T and 3Lz
2015-2016: ???

Hopefully...
2015-2016: ......
2016-2017: ......
2017-2018: NONE!


@xibsuarz, Ah~ Didn't see that

 

[ice coverage]

... But yep, in the SB list for the 2015-2016 season, Autumn Classic is not listed, and that one HAS to be updated.

Again: The 2015-16 ISU SB list intentionally does not include the Autumn Classic.
Thus the 2015-16 ISU SB list does NOT need to be updated b/c of the Autumn Classic.

The 2015 Autumn Classic was a non-Challenger international.
And scores from non-Challenger internationals do NOT count toward official ISU Season Bests and official Personal Bests.