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Miki is a two time World Champion, something Rika will never be. I agree her posture is not the best, but she evokes emotion. May be I like her so much because for me she channels Akiko and gosh, how I miss Akiko.
2016 World Championships Ladies Free Skate
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I keep having new thoughts about the LP.
Evgenia won as anticipated. Good for her for delivering under pressure. She's very musical. Can't wait to see what she brings next season, if she struggles with growth, and what kind of programs she does. I'd love to see her try something dance-inspired, something different from this season.
Ashley is a hero. Getting that silver and ending the drought after being that American who couldn't seal the deal for such a long time. If I was a skater, I would be trying to skate with Raf. Adam and Ashley were both stunning this week. I wonder if she will retire now that she got that World medal? But US skating would suffer without her, IMO.
Anna is another hero. The red-headed stepchild of the Russian fed, who no one ever expects to make the team but always places in the top 3 at Nationals, and even then no one expects her to be on the Worlds team. Well, she kicked butt here. A little more life in her performance and she would've clinched the silver. But she doesn't connect to Schez like Ashley and Evgenia do to their music.
Satoko was nice, but those pre-rotations kill me, which is why I'm not bothered by Gracie beating her. Gracie made some unfortunate mistakes, but at least she didn't melt down and her elements (sans the double and the opening combo) were quality. But Gracie has more time ahead of her than Ashley does, so I can live with the fact that Gracie's mistakes helped to allow Ashley the medal.
I hope this lights the inner b*itch in Gracie to come back next season and kick Ashley's a*ss. I would love a rivalry that didn't involve so many botched programs.
Congratulations Ashley and Anna!
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Medals? World records? Pfft. I've gotten close to 400 thumbs up this Worlds.
Beat that little Ms Medvedeva. Top that Papadakis and Cizeron.
Thank you all for making this achievement possible! I admire your taste exceedingly!
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Beat that little Ms Medvedeva. Top that Papadakis and Cizeron.
Thank you all for making this achievement possible! I admire your taste exceedingly!
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The travesty lies in the PCS in my opinion. Gracie's performance was nervous and strained.
Mao was very lovely even with the technical errors. Her technical error did not leave her hanging on trying not to make her butt touch the ice.
Thoughts:
1. Medvedeva - deserved World Champion title. Should have gotten an edge call on the lutz, shouldn't have gotten +3s on some of her jump combinations, and shouldn't have beaten Yuna's record. Never mind.
2. Wagner - totally killed it. I'm actually glad she made technical mistakes that made it impossible to put her ahead of Medvedeva because that would have reached Sochi levels of highway robbery. She kept fighting through her performance, so lots of kudos to her. She worked on her spins to get them all to level 4 though that closing spin was slow as ****, shocking that it got a +3 GOE.
3. Pogorilaya - I think she's deservedly in third place. Her PCS is already slightly above what it should be, and she needed more of a running edge out of her jumps. She's improved leaps and bounds though, and is clearly the Russian no. 2.
4. Gold - way overscored in both SP and LP. Her PCS shouldn't be anywhere near Mao's, let alone above it in both programs. I would have had her 6th or 7th at best. As usual she crumbles under pressure.
5. Miyahara - such a joke that she gets the 2nd highest TES but only the 7th highest PCS. She should be getting points because she's a refined and sophisticated skater with wonderful subtlety in the way she presents her programs, not because of her jumps, which even she knows are tiny. Judges need to stop pretending they're giving her all due credit just by giving her +3's for her layback. Also, this is not the first time that she has received 0's and +1's only for her change-of-direction spin. Seriously?
6. Radionova - get better programs, Elena, and work on those windmill arms. She's a lovely girl who fought through puberty but she really needs to up her game somehow now.
7. Asada - Mao, Mao, Mao. I think her 3A deserved bettter GOE even if underrotated, and she was clearly hosed in her PCS. She seemed tentative and nervous and even was slightly off the music at the end but she was fighting through her nerves the whole time. She's trying to keep up with these young girls (even with that tano in the 3 jump combo, the illusion entry into her layback, etc.) but she really just needs to relax and do her thing. She's a 3-time world champion and no one can take that away from her, there's really no need to be so nervous.
1. Medvedeva - deserved World Champion title. Should have gotten an edge call on the lutz, shouldn't have gotten +3s on some of her jump combinations, and shouldn't have beaten Yuna's record. Never mind.
2. Wagner - totally killed it. I'm actually glad she made technical mistakes that made it impossible to put her ahead of Medvedeva because that would have reached Sochi levels of highway robbery. She kept fighting through her performance, so lots of kudos to her. She worked on her spins to get them all to level 4 though that closing spin was slow as ****, shocking that it got a +3 GOE.
3. Pogorilaya - I think she's deservedly in third place. Her PCS is already slightly above what it should be, and she needed more of a running edge out of her jumps. She's improved leaps and bounds though, and is clearly the Russian no. 2.
4. Gold - way overscored in both SP and LP. Her PCS shouldn't be anywhere near Mao's, let alone above it in both programs. I would have had her 6th or 7th at best. As usual she crumbles under pressure.
5. Miyahara - such a joke that she gets the 2nd highest TES but only the 7th highest PCS. She should be getting points because she's a refined and sophisticated skater with wonderful subtlety in the way she presents her programs, not because of her jumps, which even she knows are tiny. Judges need to stop pretending they're giving her all due credit just by giving her +3's for her layback. Also, this is not the first time that she has received 0's and +1's only for her change-of-direction spin. Seriously?
6. Radionova - get better programs, Elena, and work on those windmill arms. She's a lovely girl who fought through puberty but she really needs to up her game somehow now.
7. Asada - Mao, Mao, Mao. I think her 3A deserved bettter GOE even if underrotated, and she was clearly hosed in her PCS. She seemed tentative and nervous and even was slightly off the music at the end but she was fighting through her nerves the whole time. She's trying to keep up with these young girls (even with that tano in the 3 jump combo, the illusion entry into her layback, etc.) but she really just needs to relax and do her thing. She's a 3-time world champion and no one can take that away from her, there's really no need to be so nervous.
No Mao did not. She was underwhelming and quite slow.
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It was different with Elena because her natural skating is that bad. Evgenia? No.
I still think there should be two panels of judges, one for tech and one for PCS and they should be sitting at opposite ends of the rinks so they are not influenced by each other. I think then maybe the PCS would be more accurate and reflective of what was actually done on those counts. Anyway big congrats to Ashley who is a champ in more ways than one in IMHO (yes I know she was second). And to Pogo for also being on the podium. I think this was the strongest ladies comp I've seen in a long long time.
Have you guys ever wondered that maybe Zhenya gets SS points because she's able to make slow skating VERY smooth and graceful? (This obviously isn't why, it's clearly inflation but just food for thought
Nah I'd say the opposite. Her skating isn't smooth but she scrapes her edges deep to eek out as much speed as she can. Seems to be a common technique with the Russian ladies.
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Also want to add:
Everyone needs to stop complaining about how "skater A was rude to skater B for not....blah blah blah" and everything like that. Maybe Anna didn't hug Ashley because she doesn't know her and maybe she thinks Ashley would be uncomfortable??? Anna didn't do it to be rude. This is the best moment of the careers of all the skaters on that podium and I'm sure none of them are trying to ruin it with snideness.
Everyone needs to stop complaining about how "skater A was rude to skater B for not....blah blah blah" and everything like that. Maybe Anna didn't hug Ashley because she doesn't know her and maybe she thinks Ashley would be uncomfortable??? Anna didn't do it to be rude. This is the best moment of the careers of all the skaters on that podium and I'm sure none of them are trying to ruin it with snideness.
It's not the first time a Russian lady got away with an edge call at a major competition. *cough* Adelina. But seriously, what the **** is wrong with the technical panel? Sometimes you give a borderline flip an e, but you don't call for an obvious flutz? NOT EVEN !????????
Rant aside.....
Actually, more rant. I can't tell who's the clear winner because everyone's GOE and PCS looked entirely "fixed".
My few thoughts
1. Evgenia: GOE on her flutz is a complete joke. We all know you'll break the WR, but break it in a right way please. And I can't believe her PCS is higher than Mao's.
2. Ashley: Probably the only one who's given score is relatively fair. Looking at the protocols, she probably would've won if she didn't have URs.
3. Satoko: 66.35 PCS??? WT*?
4. Anna: 68.11 PCS??? WT*
5. Elena: 67.94 PCS FOR THAT?
6. Gracie: She seems to miss all the opportunity
7. Mao: You deserve 75+ PCS.
8. Rika: How did she get 63.60 PCS when ear-killing Elena's music and sub-par performance receives 67.94?
I can't deal with this farse. I
Rant aside.....
Actually, more rant. I can't tell who's the clear winner because everyone's GOE and PCS looked entirely "fixed".
My few thoughts
1. Evgenia: GOE on her flutz is a complete joke. We all know you'll break the WR, but break it in a right way please. And I can't believe her PCS is higher than Mao's.
2. Ashley: Probably the only one who's given score is relatively fair. Looking at the protocols, she probably would've won if she didn't have URs.
3. Satoko: 66.35 PCS??? WT*?
4. Anna: 68.11 PCS??? WT*
5. Elena: 67.94 PCS FOR THAT?
6. Gracie: She seems to miss all the opportunity
7. Mao: You deserve 75+ PCS.
8. Rika: How did she get 63.60 PCS when ear-killing Elena's music and sub-par performance receives 67.94?
I can't deal with this farse. I
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Mannn... just as well. Scores are :shocked:, everyone just became incredible hulk or something (minus gracie) Okay going back to 
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I don't know, man, if Gracie hasn't learned not to fold under pressure by now, I'm not sure she ever will.
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I think it has more to do with the Russians favoring jumping technique that relies on fast rotation, IE, their competitive groups starting from a young age. Inherently, that technique has an expiration date.
It's a shame and completely unnecessary to train your girls in such a way that they completely lose their jumps at age 16.
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I have to wonder why anyone should think that Satoko shoud medal. Her jumps are atrocious. For all the talk that Ashley, Mao, and everyone else gets for their under rotations, most of Satoko's fans are noticeably absent from the conversation. She doesn't deserve any of her success, even when her competitors crash and burn because they are at least attempting triple jumps. I don't even know how she passed her senior test, let alone how she actually wins medals.
That is too expensive. ISU originally wanted to have a panel of 12 judges but now it is 9 to save on money. Figure skating is a poor sport.
You know what could make the judges be more accurate? Abolishing anonymous scoring. Once they are scrutinized they will be more accurate.
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Interestingly all nations managed to defend their titles from last year. Spain, France, Canada and now Russia. I guess I was a little meh about Evgenia breaking my Yuna's WR but it was gonna happen one day. Im glad it was scored by an unquestionably clean performance. Plus Evgenia is absolutely adorable. And those eyes just sparkle!!
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