Both of those skaters won championships without quads before quads became essential. Now, the US has quadless champs. Canada doesn't. Trying to lump them together as one just doesn't work.Jeff Buttle, and Patrick Chan(if we count national champions), and maybe more. I didn't say USA and Canada are one entity, just that they share similar values/philosophy. There are others in the skating community that share similar values too. But USA and Canada are powerful/dominant enough to push for rule change.
(or will Gracie get 152.13+?)