I'm not sure if he meant "No 4Lo" or "No second 4S". Since he said right after the end of last season that Yuzu's next step would most likely be the 4Lo.
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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I'm not sure if he meant "No 4Lo" or "No second 4S". Since he said right after the end of last season that Yuzu's next step would most likely be the 4Lo.
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Good morning everyone 
there is another practice today, do you think he is gonna show up? If not then... Just 9 hours until the SP
there is another practice today, do you think he is gonna show up? If not then... Just 9 hours until the SP 
Oh, honey. This has been a common recurrence on this thread everytime Brian says anything about Yuzuru on interviews and I have grown immune to people's reaction by now. Just learn to ignore it. I think it is alright if some people express distaste and disagreement of what he said as long as it is not becoming some type of slander/libel.
Speaking of which, I think most people has this idea that athlete-coach relationship supposed to be heartfelt and pretty like rainbows and unicorns and butterflies all the time like in movies. It is not the case most of the time. I fought with my coach on a weekly basis (and getting more intense and often as competition grows closer). But at the end of the day, I respect and trust her, so I stick with her and we always kiss and make up after an argument. I think if Yuzuru still decide to stick with Orser, he must have see values in him and trust him so I won't "question" his choices.
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In fact, training 4lz might affect his his 3lz. Now that he has 4Lo in both of his programs, he will never plan 3lo in competition ever again.
I am glad he is still doing 3lz as the final jump in LP. As skaters put their good jump in the end of their LP.
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Yes I don't think that Brian compared negatively Yuzuru to Javi. Because Brian is smarter than that. Nobody would think that Javi is better compared to Yuzuru. I think that the position of Brian is very incomfortable between the two of his students. Brian is a competent coach, but not very diplomatic. I think that he admires Yuzuru like us, but mentally he is more like Javi. Javi sometimes looks like a copy of Brian. You know, Brian only won Olympic silvers.
Thank you T_T I didn't have a lot of time lately to come here but everytime I took a peek, it was all "Brian hates Yuzu! Yuzu should leave the TCC or he's gonna die!" X_x it's reassuring to know it's not always like that. I'm going to try to ignore them and focus on the good parts.
So ! let's talk about the practices instead. I was curious why Yuzu wasn't on the practice yesterday morning, but after a little google map check, the SC rink is like 30 minutes away by car from the TCC so I thought he might have chose to practice at home that morning. Glad to see I'm a good Sherlock
From the practice of the afternoon, I think he's getting more depth in his interpretation of his music :3
Why do you say that? Because the four quads resulted in no jumping pass left for a low point triple such as 3Lo?
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melmel, thanks for sharing gpf those memories. Of course, he has many pupil skaters and I'm sure he was and will be proud of them. but recent his interview attitude feels defensive when it comes to yuzu's plan and injury..at least to me. so sorry for disagreement. But I think Brian is also human and he hates to see critics for failure. And I don't think there is a serious problem between yuzu and him at all. just want believing mode more as other's coach.
It's very difficult matters, indeed. Nobody knows who's choice will be right. but I can't blame yuzu..for his choice. Just pray and hope for being no regretful
anyway need to move positive in this thread.
It's very difficult matters, indeed. Nobody knows who's choice will be right. but I can't blame yuzu..for his choice. Just pray and hope for being no regretful
anyway need to move positive in this thread.
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doing the quads hasn't affected his 3T or 3S and it seems to give him more air time/better timing on the 3Lz so i am not worried. He doesn't need 3Lo anymore. Maybe comes a time he doesn't need 3Lz either lol
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I mean even if 3Lo got higher BV than 3lz, he wouldn't repeat it now he has 4Lo in competition. You know zayak...
And to be fair to Orser, Yuzuru is NOT that of an angel to work with. I love our boy but I know he is a little devil and crazily stubborn. I am not suprised that Yuzuru brings the most stress to Orser.
Lol me me me!
I am that kid who wants to do the hardest routines and give my coach a headache and then slip and stumble and lost and then get frustrated loooool. I fought with my coach so much about it in the past so in a sense I can kind of understand both Yuzuru and Orser's point of view. Once my coach told me "If I train you just one year more I will be bald!" but lol i stick with her in the end until I quit competing.
We are outsiders and should just leave the dynamics of their coaching relationship to them to be honest. Fans, media and third party chipping in will never affect anything good to them, at least from my own experience I see it that way.
Yes, I know, he can. But it seems like his coach doesn't know. Otherwise why tell these things to Icenetwork (it will be copied and spread out everywhere, you know, in different languages)?
I thought so, yeah but then I read this and was like
"He attempts all these quads (in practice run-throughs). Does he do them successfully? No, because it's such a tall order," (c)
You know what? After reading the Brians' words and all your comments I've been reflecting on everything and feeling like UBER SAD.
I think maybe I see things a bit different. Yuzu said that Brian is a Mommy kind of coach, so he is a caring one. Did a thought of a mom who is protective of you ever cross your mind when reading Brian's words? Yuzu and Javi are both his "sons" he cares most in the world about right now. And he is torn in between two of them- so different, so talented, so hardworking (both of them at this stage of their careers). He wants them both to succed, both to make their dreams come to life and not have any single regret about any decisions that they have taken.
Brian have said this numerous times: as a coach he tries to teach his athletes to pace themselves, he respects their routines and small rituals, he steps back when they are getting ready to go out on ice, he lets them work out their focusing and timing, learn to do that in the right way. It's all about respect. He pays a huge respect to his students and treats them as adults.
He cares about them at the same time. A lot.
He knows their fortes and weaknesses. He witnesses those every day.
His words about Yuzu sound as protective to me. He might also be a bit scared of this young athlete spirit who is unstoppable. An athlete who won the Olympics that young and still is having a hunger of a newcomer who wants to grab all the gold in the world. Maybe he had never had that feeling about himself in his life. Maybe he is a bit worried.
Trust me if Yuzu wins his second Olympics Brian would be the happiest man on planet Earth because he had said it numerous times that Yuzu reminds him of himself, same young and daring athlete. They have many things in common. Yuzu gaining the second Oly gold would make Brian's old dreams come alive- because even he himself could never achieve that- his athlete, the boy who came to him being weak yet daring, with his help became a star of the decades and achieved a goal that is a tough one to get to.
He cares about Javi. He tought him to work hard and be consistent. He had to be hungry for him for quite a while. Now Javi knows what is it to let himself feel the hunger. I think Brian knows he can do a bit more (4Lo) and he wants Javi not to take that jump of the pocket too late to succed whatever Javi wants to succeed.
So I don't see all the negative things your guys see and read into those interviews. At all. Brian is in a very diffucult position right now and will be till the day his main stars compete. He is torn in between them. I feel for him, seriously. And I hate to read negative words and comments about him. Of course you guys have your point of view and you are entitled to have one, very different from mine. I just... I feel how this negativism is poisoning the air. We need to feel positive vibes and send those towards Yuzu and everyone in his team who works hard so that he achieves his goals and makes his dreams come alive. Yuzu have chosen to stay with Brian, he trusts him. Maybe he wants to prove Brian that he had chosen the right strategy with his own efforts and achievements. He wants to prove his point. There is nothing wrong with that. He is learning in the process too.
I think we all know why Yuzu is taking the risk. I wish him lots of luck. I wish Brian a lot of patience. I have a lot of respect to them both and wish them both to succeed.
I think maybe I see things a bit different. Yuzu said that Brian is a Mommy kind of coach, so he is a caring one. Did a thought of a mom who is protective of you ever cross your mind when reading Brian's words? Yuzu and Javi are both his "sons" he cares most in the world about right now. And he is torn in between two of them- so different, so talented, so hardworking (both of them at this stage of their careers). He wants them both to succed, both to make their dreams come to life and not have any single regret about any decisions that they have taken.
Brian have said this numerous times: as a coach he tries to teach his athletes to pace themselves, he respects their routines and small rituals, he steps back when they are getting ready to go out on ice, he lets them work out their focusing and timing, learn to do that in the right way. It's all about respect. He pays a huge respect to his students and treats them as adults.
He cares about them at the same time. A lot.
He knows their fortes and weaknesses. He witnesses those every day.
His words about Yuzu sound as protective to me. He might also be a bit scared of this young athlete spirit who is unstoppable. An athlete who won the Olympics that young and still is having a hunger of a newcomer who wants to grab all the gold in the world. Maybe he had never had that feeling about himself in his life. Maybe he is a bit worried.
Trust me if Yuzu wins his second Olympics Brian would be the happiest man on planet Earth because he had said it numerous times that Yuzu reminds him of himself, same young and daring athlete. They have many things in common. Yuzu gaining the second Oly gold would make Brian's old dreams come alive- because even he himself could never achieve that- his athlete, the boy who came to him being weak yet daring, with his help became a star of the decades and achieved a goal that is a tough one to get to.
He cares about Javi. He tought him to work hard and be consistent. He had to be hungry for him for quite a while. Now Javi knows what is it to let himself feel the hunger. I think Brian knows he can do a bit more (4Lo) and he wants Javi not to take that jump of the pocket too late to succed whatever Javi wants to succeed.
So I don't see all the negative things your guys see and read into those interviews. At all. Brian is in a very diffucult position right now and will be till the day his main stars compete. He is torn in between them. I feel for him, seriously. And I hate to read negative words and comments about him. Of course you guys have your point of view and you are entitled to have one, very different from mine. I just... I feel how this negativism is poisoning the air. We need to feel positive vibes and send those towards Yuzu and everyone in his team who works hard so that he achieves his goals and makes his dreams come alive. Yuzu have chosen to stay with Brian, he trusts him. Maybe he wants to prove Brian that he had chosen the right strategy with his own efforts and achievements. He wants to prove his point. There is nothing wrong with that. He is learning in the process too.
I think we all know why Yuzu is taking the risk. I wish him lots of luck. I wish Brian a lot of patience. I have a lot of respect to them both and wish them both to succeed.
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I think Orser was being cautious, remember this is Yuzuru he is talking about. If he said something like: "Yuzu is in wonderful condition, he did clean run through and I was shocked etc etc..." Then Japanese media will ROAR!I thought so, yeah but then I read this and was like
"He attempts all these quads (in practice run-throughs). Does he do them successfully? No, because it's such a tall order," (c)
I know for sure Yuzuru did clean run through in practice, or else Tracy will never agree to let him go out like that. It's just the % of clean run through isn't high. But it is ok, it is still early season.
Yes, if he does one 4Lo and one 3Lo, he risks Zayak since he already had 2 other repeated jumps.
But if he does two 4Lo and one 3Lo, then there is no risk.
This is the case with his two 4S and one 3S, there is no risk of Zayak there. (unless he pops both quad sal)
melmel, thanks for sharing gpf those memories. Of course, he has many pupil skaters and I'm sure he was and will be proud of them. but recent his interview attitude feels defensive when it comes to yuzu's plan and injury..at least to me. so sorry for disagreement. But I think Brian is also human and he hates to see critics for failure. And I don't think there is a serious problem between yuzu and him at all. just want believing mode more as other's coach.
It's very difficult matters, indeed. Nobody knows who's choice will be right. but I can't blame yuzu..for his choice. Just pray and hope for being no regretful
i guess then we'll have to agree to disagree
. I'm not sure I've ever seen critics of brian in the press when yuzu has a less than stellar performance, that's why I don't understand this idea that Brian must be defensive. Figure Skating isn't soccer ^^"I think more than defensive, I think Brian is worried because Yuzuru is very prone to injuries and that it's part of Brian's job to do everything he can so Yuzu can be at his best both skating wise and health wise. So I'm sure it must affects him when he sees Yuzu hurt. So I don't interprete any reservation he might have about some stuff as him wanting to "strangle" Yuzu's talent but more as a want to keep him as less injured as possible. And since Yuzu admits himself that it's hard for him to rein himself in and to not overtrain when he's on the ice, naturally that becomes Brian's job to get him to not overtrain.
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I should just BL the few nutcases that enjoy spilling BS on Brian for no reason every time the poor man say something. 
So I wouldn't have to read their non-sense.
Oh well, back to non-foolish stuff: The SP training session is soon, right? I won't be able to watch it but I hope to know how our boy fair.
So I wouldn't have to read their non-sense.Oh well, back to non-foolish stuff: The SP training session is soon, right? I won't be able to watch it but I hope to know how our boy fair.
But of course nobody lands every single jump in either of programs at every runthrough this early into the season. Why blame Brian for stating the facts?Yes, I know, he can. But it seems like his coach doesn't know. Otherwise why tell these things to Icenetwork (it will be copied and spread out everywhere, you know, in different languages)?
I thought so, yeah but then I read this and was like
"He attempts all these quads (in practice run-throughs). Does he do them successfully? No, because it's such a tall order," (c)
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