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Did Patrick fall three times?
Was it bad ice that did these guys in? If so, that is really appalling.
Was it bad ice that did these guys in? If so, that is really appalling.
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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Yes and he Zayaked too. I really am not sure what happened, but it was ruddy weird. And it's not that Nathan psyched them out, they don't watch programs by other skaters or look at the scores. I still think it was the ice and that the skaters with deep edges had more problems.
Having said that, I'm not unhappy with what happened tonight in regards to Yuzuru but I do think it's a clear sign about the quad sal combo. We'll know soon enough about the decision. I am just afraid he's stubborn enough and decides to try to push through.
I agree. No time for Nationals, but at least something MUST be changed for 4CC. I don't think it is going to happen unless they tweak something.
I think it is possible to tackle 2T after the first 4S. Maybe not THAT musically timed well but lol who cares for the time being.
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It is an improvement but not a significant improvement. I just said that but apparently some people get mad faster here.
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Yuzuru the chick magnet
Who else can skate to 2 super complex programmes with choreography AND a new quad?
Please enlighten me what is a "significant" improvement in your mind then. a 5A?
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I think it is too and frankly, sod the music, it's a tiny thing and it is a temporary measure. They they have quite a bit of time until 4CC. I am not sure what the decision would be there but maybe a solo 4S at the same place would still be a problem. Now that's an actual issue if so but they have time so they can fiddle. Maybe move a 3A combo that he's more secure about there and get the solo quad after the 4T? Am not sure here.
Also some people need to calm down a bit. It was NOT a disaster.
He still land 3 quads and 2 3A. The fall on the 4S3T is predicted. It is the singled lutz that cost him at least 6 points. He doubled the 3S too. Had he nailed the lutz and the 3S his score would at least be 10 points higher.
Next time he should learn to not make little mistakes like this. He has the tendency to do this after he made a mistake, in which he makes unnecessary mistakes on triple jumps. :/
He still land 3 quads and 2 3A. The fall on the 4S3T is predicted. It is the singled lutz that cost him at least 6 points. He doubled the 3S too. Had he nailed the lutz and the 3S his score would at least be 10 points higher.
Next time he should learn to not make little mistakes like this. He has the tendency to do this after he made a mistake, in which he makes unnecessary mistakes on triple jumps. :/
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Remember he didn't skate all summer due to a massive injury, though. He improved a heck of a lot for someone off the ice for over 2 months.
Also can people please just ignore the troll. 
No I don't think for Nats many changes should be made. Just tackle 2T to the 1st 4S and do 3A3T in the second half, he is basically doing 3A3T for all competition this year too anyway. If he fell on the second 4S then let it be for the time being. As long as he nailed his other jumps, I think at least it should be enough for Nats. Since he will not get that stupid 30% REP deduction if he fell on his second solo 4S. I hope this GPF result is a wake up call for him, and be less stubborn with that 4-3 on the second half lol. There is enough time for 4CC and worlds. It is only the 4S3T that is the problem. Everything else is already in place.
No I don't think for Nats many changes should be made. Just tackle 2T to the 1st 4S and do 3A3T in the second half, he is basically doing 3A3T for all competition this year too anyway. If he fell on the second 4S then let it be for the time being. As long as he nailed his other jumps, I think at least it should be enough for Nats. Since he will not get that stupid 30% REP deduction if he fell on his second solo 4S. I hope this GPF result is a wake up call for him, and be less stubborn with that 4-3 on the second half lol. There is enough time for 4CC and worlds. It is only the 4S3T that is the problem. Everything else is already in place.
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Don't feed the troll. It does not worth it.
I think people are so fast jumping on board to attack Yuzuru. Skating means the whole season and there will always be some adjustments. This is what GP series is for. Whoever WANT Yuzuru to skate perfect and consistent (like the ladies) at this stage must not be understanding FS at all. He is doing 4 QUADS and 2 triple axels with tons of transitions. He is NOT doing TRIPLES!!!
I had known Yuzuru would make mistakes at GPF with the crazy amount of difficulties he did (quads and those difficult transitions). Actually I had told myself he would lost GPF this year. I mean I was so sure about it. Just a not so great skate in the MIDDLE of the season, lol we should be happy he messed here and now. It is such a great learning experience for him.
I mean, sorry for those who love GPF, but I was giving an eff about GPF. He had 3 GPF before today, it is great to have another one and it's not his fault that his main rivals messed up even more.
I only want him to do well enough at WC and Olympic. That's the main goals.
We should be HAPPY he is not peaking yet! Save that for 4CC and WC!
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We will see the result of his effort at Worlds 2017. We will be fix.
this! This! This!
Yeah, he's a very emotion-driven skater. Like that guy said (I forget who...) he gets a lot more into programs and skates faster and bigger when he's doing well and then when he makes a mistake it knocks the air out of the program. He needs to fix this~~~~~~~ GO YUZU!!!
I mean like please, he did not bomb as hard as Chan or Javi, people need to calm down a bit. This is what he meant by increasing his average score imo. Trying not to bomb so much eventhough you are not at your peak condition.
I think he was tired at the end, he did the same mistake on the 3S at NHK
Maybe. He need to figure it out though. I thought he had overcome this issue because NHK and SC he managed to hold it together after making mistake on his 4Lo (SC) and 4S3T (both). It is such a waste of points.
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I am still happy that he won it and lol at his pissed face 
Anyways I still think he got pissed that he failed combo and that's why made further mistakes. I hope Orser will make him move that combo in first half like he mede Yuzu change that circular entry on quad toe in Chopin. ( one can hope)
Anyways I still think he got pissed that he failed combo and that's why made further mistakes. I hope Orser will make him move that combo in first half like he mede Yuzu change that circular entry on quad toe in Chopin. ( one can hope)
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Also can people please just ignore the troll.
No I don't think for Nats many changes should be made. Just tackle 2T to the 1st 4S and do 3A3T in the second half, he is basically doing 3A3T for all competition this year too anyway. If he fell on the second 4S then let it be for the time being. As long as he nailed his other jumps, I think at least it should be enough for Nats. Since he will not get that stupid 30% REP deduction if he fell on his second solo 4S. I hope this GPF result is a wake up call for him, and be less stubborn with that 4-3 on the second half lol. There is enough time for 4CC and worlds. It is only the 4S3T that is the problem. Everything else is already in place.
Oh no, I agree about the Nats, I was talking post that. For Nats what you're suggesting sounds more than reasonable and if he falls on the second 4S, who cares. He still has the combo and no stupid REP.
After the Nats though, I wonder what they'll do as I imagine he does want to skate clean. So if it is the timing that is affecting the quad, I wonder if it is possible to shift the combo to the 4S-2T as you suggested and then also shift the 3A-3T where the 4S combo is now and where the solo 4S would be in that case, as the 3A is his most stable jump and probably won't result in a mess even if the timing is off. Then do the fourth quad where the 3A-3T is now. In any case, fingers crossed he's open to changes and won't dig his heels in
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