Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season

[Neenah16]

Speaking of lockscreens, does anyone have any other photos of Yuzu that they use as their lock screen?

This is my current background.

I don't put pictures on my lock screen since everyone can see it. My background on the other hand is for me only.

 

[Floria]

It seems that Akiko Suzuki criticized Yuzuru for not being emotional. The source is this tweet.
And the article is here.
I think it has something to do with H&L, but don't understand anything from the article because it is in Japanese.
Has anyone read it?


ETA Interesting quote from Kurt Browning.

 

[NoNameFace]

Thank you for translating and sharing!

The part I liked most is about the consistency. When a praise like this comes from one of your biggest rivals it means quite a lot.

for me personally, Yuzuru's consistency praised is remarkable and worth of praise due to more than one perspective considered - there is a consistency understood in a traditional way: consistency OF great skills, quality jumps, overall ability to move and excite in terms of execution/performance, but for me even more important is Yuzuru's consistency DESPITE all issues, 'off' things encountered. To have such strong, vivid skates even after some disappointing outings, to present such high spirit about his skating not only in 'good time', but also in those less successful is one of the few measures of great champions. One of things I admire him for the most

 

[Killaa]

It seems that Akiko Suzuki criticized Yuzuru for not being emotional. The source is this tweet.
And the article is here.
I think it has something to do with H&L, but don't understand anything from the article because it is in Japanese.
Has anyone read it?


ETA Interesting quote from Kurt Browning.

Since I don't understand japanese, I hope this is just a case of media misquoting like usual. Because if not, I'm just...disappointed. What does "being emotional" means in a program anyway

 

[Yatagarasu]

Ah. Nagoya has started the mud slinging I see. Well Akiko goes on my list that is not named in a polite manner.

 

[mcq]

It seems that Akiko Suzuki criticized Yuzuru for not being emotional. The source is this tweet.
And the article is here.
I think it has something to do with H&L, but don't understand anything from the article because it is in Japanese.
Has anyone read it?


ETA Interesting quote from Kurt Browning.

Lol idk why you bring this here, apparently this pisses off some of his Japanese fans (international ones too), from what I see. Anywho, this is a mark of the start of olympic season. You'll be seeing more articles like this in the near future.

 

[Yatagarasu]

Lol idk why you bring this here, apparently this pisses off some of his Japanese fans (international ones too), from what I see. Anywho, this is a mark of the start of olympic season. You'll be seeing more articles like this in the near future.

Seriously. And it's only been a few days into the off season! Ah well. Same old, same old.

Well, fasten your seat-belts folks. Olympics season has officially started!

 

[Interspectator]

Since I don't understand japanese, I hope this is just a case of media misquoting like usual. Because if not, I'm just...disappointed. What does "being emotional" means in a program anyway

It's just that Akiko has opinions and preferences in style like any other figure skating fan. She and Daisuke Takahashi have a very distinct and dramatic style and they may like to see it in others. Her criticism is her opinion. -Others think that Yuzu conveyed emotion just fine. But folks are allowed to have their own likes and dislikes, opinions, etc. Personally, the music for Hope and legacy is delicate and atmospheric, so the way he chose to portray it is perfectly suited. -No miming, no over the top acting...just skating with the flow. Let's go Crazy is a rock song, so full-on acting, hand gestures, facial expressions and emotions were called for- and delivered by Yuzu.
Since Yuzu is so famous and has won so much, everyone has an opinion about him. If I were to get really angry every time there was an article about Yuzu I didn't like, I wouldn't have time to enjoy his skating. The majority of articles are favorable though. It's a better use of time to focus on the positive.

 

[mcq]

Seriously. And it's only been a few days into the off season! Ah well. Same old, same old.

Well, fasten your seat-belts folks. Olympics season has officially started!

Ikr, I'm not even mad. Well kansai camp has nothing to do with him this quad, because they don't have contender, so Nagoya camp it is this year
My suggestion to other fans (who might be new): ignore Nagoya media, articles, or comments from their skaters/coaches this olympic season, it is better for you There is a reason you don't see it much translated here or in his FB group. Same old, same old.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

Ah. Nagoya has started the mud slinging I see. Well Akiko goes on my list that is not named in a polite manner.

What annoys me is that this trigger my personal studipity allergy.

The woman that landed her first triple-triple at what 24, 25? No matter, dinosaur age for ladies, states Yuzu will have a hard time improving technically like Nathan and Shoma can due to... age.
That sounds legit :cool14:

I'm honestly disappointed, I thought Akko wouldn't get into this stuff

 

[NoNameFace]

It's just that Akiko has opinions and preferences in style like any other figure skating fan. She and Daisuke Takahashi have a very distinct and dramatic style and they may like to see it in others. Her criticism is her opinion. -Others think that Yuzu conveyed emotion just fine. But folks are allowed to have their own likes and dislikes, opinions, etc. Personally, the music for Hope and legacy is delicate and atmospheric, so the way he chose to portray it is perfectly suited. -No miming, no over the top acting...just skating with the flow. Let's go Crazy is a rock song, so full-on acting, hand gestures, facial expressions and emotions were called for- and delivered by Yuzu.
Since Yuzu is so famous and has won so much, everyone has an opinion about him. If I were to get really angry every time there was an article about Yuzu I didn't like, I wouldn't have time to enjoy his skating. The majority of articles are favorable though. It's a better use of time to focus on the positive.

as usually agree with You Interspectator, I'd add only from my perspective that someone's opinion is an opinion which then could be viewed by others as a criticism, not being intentionally voiced as such. It's usually the matter of our reception through our personal aesthetics and of course sentiments towards skaters. It's inevitable to react offensive, same as inevitable are opinions of others we're not in agreement with.

 

[mcq]

What annoys me is that this trigger my personal studipity allergy.

The woman that landed her first triple-triple at what 24, 25? No matter, dinosaur age for ladies, states Yuzu will have a hard time improving technically like Nathan and Shoma can due to... age.
That sounds legit :cool14:

I'm honestly disappointed, I thought Akko wouldn't get into this stuff

Same, I am disappointed too. If people actually read the whole article, the tone of it is... err...

But like I always say, being an outlier skater that he is, these kind of things surprise me the least. and we will see more of these in the coming months.

 

[AnyaFei]

I really don't get the Yuzu lacks emotion comments for H&L :scratch3: I mean, the piece is not "emotion-inducing" to start with. You don't need drama for this type of music. It's more a portrayal of serenity and calmness. It's not like Seimei or R&J, big music which needs big emotions/drama.

 

[xeyra]

What annoys me is that this trigger my personal studipity allergy.

The woman that landed her first triple-triple at what 24, 25? No matter, dinosaur age for ladies, states Yuzu will have a hard time improving technically like Nathan and Shoma can due to... age.
That sounds legit :cool14:

I'm honestly disappointed, I thought Akko wouldn't get into this stuff

I see. Errr. I can take opinions based on not connecting with H&L and thinking Yuzu was less emotionally involved with it because it is such a subtle music, compared to others involvement with their more bombastic music choices/performances. It's an opinion, whatever. But the technical improvement comment... is Yuzu 30 now?

 

[Killaa]

I didn't know that it's a 'common thing' before the olympic, so thank you all for the clarification(this is gonna be my firs olympic season so any suggestions is accepted) . I'm just a bit disappointed because it came from Akiko and I actually like her...

 

[Yatagarasu]

What annoys me is that this trigger my personal studipity allergy.

The woman that landed her first triple-triple at what 24, 25? No matter, dinosaur age for ladies, states Yuzu will have a hard time improving technically like Nathan and Shoma can due to... age.
That sounds legit :cool14:

I'm honestly disappointed, I thought Akko wouldn't get into this stuff

That's the title of my list. The I - Report She would be happy though, she joined Dai.

It is just so dumb that I've got to laugh.
And she should definitely stay away from PChiddy who's adding quads past 25. He might get cross with her if she tells him he's old. Though for my personal amusement, she should totally do it. It'd end up being fun
I am not even starting on the 'fake artistry' that she's demanding. Yes, that so goes with H&L.

Some amusement during the off season at least. I am tempted to start grading them. IN 5.0 PE 5.0 TR 1.0

EDIT

It's just that Akiko has opinions and preferences in style like any other figure skating fan.

Not really. She's from Nagoya, and some of us have been around the block before. It's same old games as always.

 

[NoNameFace]

I really don't get the Yuzu lacks emotion comments for H&L :scratch3: I mean, the piece is not "emotion-inducing" to start with. You don't need drama for this type of music. It's more a portrayal of serenity and calmness. It's not like Seimei or R&J, big music which needs big emotions/drama.

regarding the piece itself, I think that depending on the reception and 'expectations' of a viewer vs Yuzuru's general thought/his own 'expectations' towards this program (what kind of emotions he wants to convey, how and how 'loudly'), some dissonance is always to be expected to happen. My perspective is that I had no expectations towards 'emotional' level/intensity of it regarding the program in general, as a concept (and this is my usual approach towards programs) - I tried my best to be responsive each time Yuzuru performed it this season, because every performance of that program resonated within me differently. For me it was more of the 'emotional intensity' of each program performance than a program itself, which is another great value of Yuzuru for me to admire.

 

[Interspectator]

I didn't know that it's a 'common thing' before the olympic, so thank you all for the clarification(this is gonna be my firs olympic season so any suggestions is accepted) . I'm just a bit disappointed because it came from Akiko and I actually like her...

I like her too...and still like her, she's more than this one article that I heartily disagree with. 'Akiko, you've got it all wrong about Hope and Legacy, but I still like you'. Besides, she probably hasn't met Yuzu in person for about a year. She probably doesn't have inside knowledge about his training or his technical plans. Her comments are those of a knowledgeable outsider. As such, she wouldn't be wrong in thinking that it may be difficult to add tech content past at 22 years of age. She did, but it was a great struggle wasn't it? --Yuzu is an outlier, a technical genius that comes once in a blue moon.

 

[liha]

Ahhh and here I thought the off season was going to be boring.

Idk about others but I see alot of emotion here.

 

[Floria]

Ikr, I'm not even mad. Well kansai camp has nothing to do with him this quad, because they don't have contender, so Nagoya camp it is this year
My suggestion to other fans (who might be new): ignore Nagoya media, articles, or comments from their skaters/coaches this olympic season, it is better for you There is a reason you don't see it much translated here or in his FB group. Same old, same old.

Thank you for the aclaration. It wasn't my intention to bring anything negative to this thread. I just saw the tweet, it bothered me a lot and I wanted to know what all this was about. That's all.