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2017 Ondrej Nepela Trophy Ladies SP

Agreed. She seems like she's now "holding it together" at this point rather than getting stronger. Her jumps are not as light and effortless as they used to be, and even her spins look less secure. I'm hoping she can hold it together for Russian Nationals... it'll be tough for her to make the Olympic team, but she really does deserve it. And this is one of her better short programs too.

Yes, holding it together is a great way to put it. She looked almost checked out in the K&C to me too, and definitely unhappy (talking about prior to the scoring issues) so I don't know. Maybe the coaching change isn't working out or things aren't clicking yet. I agree, I hope she can regain her spark in time for the RusNats and show us her best. Even if the Olys don't happen, and I think they very well could if she does manage to return to her old self, at least she would have no what ifs which are the worst. Fingers crossed!
 
Only had the chance to watch Medvedeva's program now.
I wish I wouldn't know the concept of the program ... because of the concept I thought that the dress would look like a hospital gown or something, that would fit. That said, the dress is indeed very beautiful and Evgenia is very focused and showing her younger teammates who's the boss. Good for her!
By the way, the camerwork wasn't very good but from that angle you can see the edgework a bit better and that's always interesting. Now I get a better impression on why Evgenia always gets such high SS marks.
 
The camera work is terrible! Looks like a dude with an iPhone. The media quality of smaller event coverage is not helping FS at all.
 
The camera work is terrible! Looks like a dude with an iPhone. The media quality of smaller event coverage is not helping FS at all.

The shaking is whatever but I really wish they'd stop zooming in so far. This way the skater is partially off screen almost all the time and constant adjusting is required. If they just zoomed out a little, we could see the skater the entire time and it'd be far easier to react to sudden changes in movement.
 
The short program is supposed to convey the purity of the soul after death. Basically the program is supposed to represent her soul as it’s wandering. I’m paraphrasing here (a more detailed translation is on Evgenia’s thread) but it’s something like that. That’s why at the end of the program she takes a deep breath; it’s supposed to represent her soul coming back into her body.

Of course, many people focused on the last part and are going around claiming it’s a program about clinical death LOL anything to try to make Evgenia’s concepts seem worse than they are. People are constantly at her throat ever since last season’s FS. Wandering souls is a theme that has been done in so many movies and books (in fact, there are many beautiful stories that have to do with this theme) but now that Evgenia did something relating to it people are gonna treat it as if she’s doing some with of satanic ritual on the ice. It’s an odd theme, but nowhere near as bad as people making it out to be.
 
Just caught up this after Men's event. LOL 80!!! ISU you finally did it!! 10 points inflation.

Oh boy they have really dumped on Elena didn't they, out with the old - in comes the new (Alina). Her scores (like Liza, Julia, Alena before etc.) goes up up then down down down over the years when a newer younger Russian comes along, are as volatile as cryptocurrency exchange, while the Russian scoring are as inflated as some of these bitcoins, pretty nuts.

Having said that, this is actually a vanilla generic program from Evegenia I can live with. For starters, it is already an improvement on all previous exploitation of some historical tragedy like the holocaust or 9/11 for the sake of emotional blackmail, unless you can count on the inherent sadness described in the music in itself.

Of course, there's the usual skate through the music and transitions for transition's sake chronic issues, but at least it is encouraging to see Evegenia wanting to improve and paying greater attention to the music. She satisfies the continuous flow of the music, hit some nice positions but need to hold them longer for the eloquent pause between the phrasing, and to make each phrase distinguishable not all at similar speed. Several emotional highs, just missed the mark to convey sadness, haunting and soft lyricism and sensitivity the music requires. My usual eye rolling will just reserve for the start and finish 2x 5 seconds, electronic heartbeat hokum with some whispering woman halfway through... can't take Ilia gimmicks out of the Averbukh program. He probably thinks it is genius, I just find them eyeball rolling distraction and pretentious pap.

It may be nitpicking, but her use of arms and upper body still bothers me. For better use the arms, carriage, and upper body movements in relation to the music should look to her teammate Maria A's version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBg_AaHxKpg (Thought Maria did a lovely job interpreting the material here, lovely costume too.)

or consider Yuna/Mao/Carolina or Marin for finesse and control, or even Patrick, Hanyu and Nathen and generally, the US men are pretty good. I find her arms often clumsy and frantic that does not respond to the stillness the music sometimes demands. Calmness, introspection, turmoil, solemness, and solitude, not frantic driven flow.

With some polishes and greater maturity (+ better Cameraman!!), this can be a decent ladies program. Her program is already better than Wakaba or Alina's SP judging from the recent Lombardia, so deserve to be higher. But perhaps Lombardia's crazy 74 winning scores means judges are encouraged here to get even carried away to ensure this come on top. I thought no one should have got over 68 there, so I would have marked this around 69, 70. Hence 10 points inflation.
 
The short program is supposed to convey the purity of the soul after death. Basically the program is supposed to represent her soul as it’s wandering. I’m paraphrasing here (a more detailed translation is on Evgenia’s thread) but it’s something like that. That’s why at the end of the program she takes a deep breath; it’s supposed to represent her soul coming back into her body.

Ohh is that what it was? So essentially she was the soul, or were souless throughout the program, except in the first 5 seconds and the final 5 seconds whe she came back to life?

Uhmm...
 
Why can't Nicole Rajicova do better?? :bang:

I keep hoping to see her scores improve because her potential is so high. It's maddening:palmf:
 
I can't Nicole Rajicova do better?? :bang:

I keep hoping to see her scores improve because her potential is so high. It's maddening:palmf:
I agree, but sadly she won't move up unless she goes for a triple triple (which I think she did do one season in the short) she probably won't, will she? Also, wish she'd work on her layback spin; she's a lovely, graceful, feminine skater and that would surely add to the already lovely overall aesthetic.
 
I can't for the life of me see what everyone is so in love with Medvedeva about on PCS. Give her the tech scores, but she clearly does NOT deserve such high PCS. She goes through the motions, without any depth of genuine feeling and artistry. It's all studied and OTT. At least she's toned down some of the histrionic drama and choreo, but that exaggerated breathing nonsense at the end has to go.

At this point, I'll take Zagitova and Honda any day over Medvedeva. :con3: But I would prefer to see some ladies who've actually lived a little to prevail overall at the Olympics, i.e., Gabby Daleman, Kaetlyn Osmond; even Mirai Nagasu, and Satoko if she was healthy, as well as Carolina K (if she had the full tech complement, which she doesn't these days). In lieu of Med, I'd even root for a boffo Pogorilaya if she isn't flopping all over the ice. Sadly, Radionova, has not fully lived up to her late junior/ early senior days hype. Even Mai Mihara is way more interesting than the over-rated Med.

I just don't think that Med deserves to casually skip rope and 'Rippon-lutz' her way to an OGM with angsty, non-genuine, exaggerated expressions and faux gasping for air. Please deliver us from teeny-bop Lolita-land in ladies figure skating! :palmf:
 
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