Gabriella Papadakis & Guillaume Cizeron
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These posts are funny to me because they skated the way they skated today and that was only good enough for 110 points. Just like Virtue Moir skated their FD at ACI the way they did and it was only good enough for 115 points. Those are the facts and that is the only way to compare each teams debut.
what is also fact is that P&C got a very slight edge on PCS so if one needs something to cling to there it is. To me it looks like these two teams are very close in the judges eyes. It will be crucial for both to hit all their levels. If they do I think skate order of FD will come into play but judging by audience reaction today l think P&C might have the PCS edge.
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Gorgeous skate, damnit the fall, but it is a busy FD with all the plane changing elements, lunging, sliding ... Hope they'll stay positive and encouraged by their scores. Now they need to work their butts off and fine tune/bullet proof everything till next month.
Question to skaters out there, how can Guillaume physically withstand this neck twist during the rotational lift ??? It is absolutely bonkers at that speed, everytime I see it, my neck hurt for him.
Question to skaters out there, how can Guillaume physically withstand this neck twist during the rotational lift ??? It is absolutely bonkers at that speed, everytime I see it, my neck hurt for him.
Yeah, but "only good for 110" or "only good for 115" doesn't mean anything. You should rather check the protocols instead of writing sentences without any meaning. BTW, protocols ARE facts! So, if you spend a few minutes looking to it, you will see they lost all the points on one single element, the Diagonal Step Sequence whose level was set to 2 and almost all related GOEs to -2!!
Now, as long as you're interesting into facts, you can see in this protocol they got five level4 and 1 level3 and the big majority of GOEs for all elements except the DiSt are +3. So early in the season, such a result is impressive, really impressive. If you want me to translate, it simply means most the elements were at the highest possible technical level and their execution almost perfect.
Except it isn't. Because skates take place in the context of other skates, and of a season, and of how skaters progress their skates through a season. Plus there is also the age of the skater and whether skaters are still improving or have hit a plateau. Or whether skaters are trying something new, or are doing something that should be second nature for them. In fact there is a huge amount of context that might be taken for any skate or performance. All of those contextual factors and others may be taken in to account if a person so chooses. if you don't want to take them in to account, that's your choice. But others might choose to, and you should accept that.........
Plus as Alain has written (and as I have written earlier), if you do break down the protocol, the message from the judges regarding this skate is very clear: they loved it.......
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i have to say even tho i really hate Ed Sheeran, i love love love their SD. The choreography is really wonderful and Gabby is so playful. She really shines in it. I have a bit of a question mark on the slow song in the middle for the partial steps but even then i think it is more cohesive as an ensemble than pretty much any SD i have seen for this season!
I am really saddened by the level of gross hate they get no matter what they do.
I am really saddened by the level of gross hate they get no matter what they do.
This free dance is already beautiful - some moments of it are just magical. I'm just so happy for them - I hope they got positive energy from this event, important feedback and will continue in the hard work.
I found the ceremony if anyone's interested in watching
https://youtu.be/AEEu6c-BpUU?t=544
I found the ceremony if anyone's interested in watching
https://youtu.be/AEEu6c-BpUU?t=544
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I keep rewatching their SD... It's so fun, flirty and breezy -- for me it stands out amongst a sea of programs going the "sexy & sensual" route. V/M have the chemistry to pull that off, but many other teams simply don't. That's why I wish Gaby would reconsider the dress... not that it's not pretty (I do hate green though 
), but this seems like the kind of dance that you would do on the street, at a party... It's very casual and inviting, and that costume seems a bit too formal.
I think this is the first season that I go into where I like their short even more than their free.
), but this seems like the kind of dance that you would do on the street, at a party... It's very casual and inviting, and that costume seems a bit too formal. I think this is the first season that I go into where I like their short even more than their free.
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I keep rewatching their SD... It's so fun, flirty and breezy -- for me it stands out amongst a sea of programs going the "sexy & sensual" route. V/M have the chemistry to pull that off, but many other teams simply don't. That's why I wish Gaby would reconsider the dress... not that it's not pretty (I do hate green though
I think this is the first season that I go into where I like their short even more than their free.
I agree on the dress! It's like, knowing they didn't choose some authentic Latin songs, they though, Ok, we will get you a real samba-like dress instead, to make it more Latin. Their SD is for me a piece where two very young, attractive people meet and simply dance, I would rather get her to wear a cropped top and a short flowy skirt. He looks fine (and I mean fiiiiiiiiine <3
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I don't agree, the dress is beautiful, she's like a bird. It's bird against leopard (Tessa).
I know how to read protocols. I used to do data entry for competitions. My post is in response to someone basically saying it was a better debut than their rivals because they would have had some imaginary score if he didn't fall. The fact is he did fall so that is their score. Just as the other team made mistakes and that was their score. The fact is both teams are very even in the eyes of the judges and will need to skate clean to beat the other. It is an exciting and worthy rivalry. I consider myself lucky to see two teams of such quality battle it out.
This FD is beautiful, with work and some change (the last lift is too short for me for example) it will be a masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjYE-5Mlc-Y
Another video with com.
If someone can translate a little what said the commentator
Thank You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjYE-5Mlc-Y
Another video with com.
If someone can translate a little what said the commentator
Thank You
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I have just watch 2 times on tube their free dance.
This is only my opinion but maybe it is that magical moment in arena whit other spectator to make that difference.
And wow people did really stood up and clap.(i did also that)
Live i always live and Espoo arena is good when you sit so near to ice and see everything very well.
Hope you understand my explanation.
After all i did drive 120km to home after trophy and went immediately to work so i have been awake soon 24h.
So i'm not so perky now when i try to write this
But after all this is one freedance to see over and over again it was so good
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The program starts geling now. It is getting better.
A lot of photos of the short dance https://ajtl.pictures.fi/kuvat/Finl...e+SD/Gabriella+PAPADAKIS+-+Guillaume+CIZERON/
and of the free dance https://ajtl.pictures.fi/kuvat/Finl...e+FD/Gabriella+PAPADAKIS+-+Guillaume+CIZERON/
As for the FD photos, Guillaume looks vicious in some of them, esp. in the presto part. Maybe he (or his character) was fighting his demons and just got carried away for a moment. There is a great and deep story behind the program. Those saying that this is the same old Mozart are just blind and do not want to see their progress.
and of the free dance https://ajtl.pictures.fi/kuvat/Finl...e+FD/Gabriella+PAPADAKIS+-+Guillaume+CIZERON/
As for the FD photos, Guillaume looks vicious in some of them, esp. in the presto part. Maybe he (or his character) was fighting his demons and just got carried away for a moment. There is a great and deep story behind the program. Those saying that this is the same old Mozart are just blind and do not want to see their progress.
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Thanks.
You were about 2 min faster than me.
I was just about to put same links here lol
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